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  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Took the bike to SVC for "missing issue"

    Opened the carb to check the thin membrane - diaphragm which was fine...carb was found to be clean as a whistle

    Next changed all 3 spark plugs...by the time I left SVC it was time for bumper to bumper city traffic...culdnt check the missing issue in 6th gear @ 5-6k rpm range

    For the miliseconds where I could keep the bike in that range felt as if the problem still persists...

    What next if its still there...spark plug cables, TPS ??

    This is becoming a big pain in the neck...[emoji35]
    Never argue with a fool, for he will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

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    • Re: Pulsar 200 NS

      Originally posted by royal racer View Post
      I dont understand .. On stock condition how bike manage to incorporate 117.5 main jet. If its possible the 200ns surely Run lean in high range torque.
      117.5 is a larger jet than the previous 115. the bike will run richer at full throttle with a 117.5. As far as I am concerned it is a good thing as I plan to add a K&N filter to mine and possibly a free flow exhaust in which case I may not have to re jet richer. 115 is too lean anyway for a 32mm carb. It could even handle a 120 main with open air filter and open exhaust. another thing was my A/F screw was adjusted from the factory at 1.75 turns out, way too lean in my opinion, i enriched up to 2.5 turns, runs much better.
      Frankly speaking I think the BAJAJ factory guys have a serious QC problem.

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        Originally posted by JDD View Post
        117.5 is a larger jet than the previous 115. the bike will run richer at full throttle with a 117.5. As far as I am concerned it is a good thing as I plan to add a K&N filter to mine and possibly a free flow exhaust in which case I may not have to re jet richer. 115 is too lean anyway for a 32mm carb. It could even handle a 120 main with open air filter and open exhaust. another thing was my A/F screw was adjusted from the factory at 1.75 turns out, way too lean in my opinion, i enriched up to 2.5 turns, runs much better.
        Frankly speaking I think the BAJAJ factory guys have a serious QC problem.
        For me its 1.5 turns that came as stock setting. Maybe bajaj gives more priority to mileage as thats what most people here care

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        • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

          Originally posted by Mr.Officer View Post
          Took the bike to SVC for "missing issue"

          Opened the carb to check the thin membrane - diaphragm which was fine...carb was found to be clean as a whistle

          Next changed all 3 spark plugs...by the time I left SVC it was time for bumper to bumper city traffic...culdnt check the missing issue in 6th gear @ 5-6k rpm range

          For the miliseconds where I could keep the bike in that range felt as if the problem still persists...

          What next if its still there...spark plug cables, TPS ??

          This is becoming a big pain in the neck...[emoji35]
          I had given something a few posts back. Here it is again (a liitle more elaborate):

          There is a connector with 3 wires on the left side of your carb. It is plugged into something called TPS
          I disconnected it (to check whether your problem is related) and I got the same problem you got, but for a wider rpm range.
          Now what do you figure out from this?

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          • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

            Originally posted by krixna View Post
            I had given something a few posts back. Here it is again (a liitle more elaborate):

            There is a connector with 3 wires on the left side of your carb. It is plugged into something called TPS
            I disconnected it (to check whether your problem is related) and I got the same problem you got, but for a wider rpm range.
            Now what do you figure out from this?

            Hey thanks for chipping in...

            I'm out riding to see if new plugs made a difference...unfortunately no...missing is still there and creeps in @ 6k rpm instead of 5k

            New thing today is petrol seeping from carb...not heavy though

            Tuesday all auth svc are closed...will take it again in a couple of days on my next off
            Never argue with a fool, for he will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

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            • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

              Guys,

              i am planning leh trip, covering whole area!!!

              suggest me a good set of tyres for my NS200

              spark plugs: Iridium ??

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              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                Originally posted by sukhi29 View Post
                Guys,

                i am planning leh trip, covering whole area!!!

                suggest me a good set of tyres for my NS200

                spark plugs: Iridium ??

                Sent from my Micromax A106 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                ceat is good on rough terrain, nice grip and less chances of getting punctured. rest advice from expert riders.
                ride or die

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                • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                  Originally posted by sukhi29 View Post
                  Guys,

                  i am planning leh trip, covering whole area!!!

                  suggest me a good set of tyres for my NS200

                  spark plugs: Iridium ??

                  Sent from my Micromax A106 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                  Dream >> Explore >> Discover .. .. .. .. Ladakh & Zanskar => June 2014 | India Travel Forum, BCMTouring

                  Check out this travelogue bro. Very detailed and exhaustive. Done on the same bike with everything stock.
                  Last edited by noob.rider; 05-13-2015, 04:28 PM.

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                  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                    Turned the TPS clockwise by about 10 degrees. Engine is rev-happy now!!

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                    • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                      This is an alert, and a general inquiry, and also a complaint if you will have it.

                      The 200 NS was released in the Philippines about November 2014. since that time there have been numerous (some calculate over 60% affected) incidents of coolant mixing with the oil in the crankcase. these cases have been documented by the Naked Wolves group in the Philippines. There has been much speculation as to why the single seal between the water pump impeller shaft and crankcase have repeatedly failed. Kawasaki Bajaj is repairing these instances at no charge but some are getting second third and fourth failures. there has been no recall, no word of advice forthcoming from Kawasaki Bajaj on what the problem is and what might be the reason. there have been ideas ranging from defective seal, to improper installation of the seal to defective spindles and bearings being installed in the Philippine export models. Interestingly to me, there seem to have been no cases of this in the other markets? India or south America. Is this true?

                      The kawasaki story is that the seals were improperly installed at the factory, but if this were true then why repeated occurrences on the same bike after service center repair? I suspect a deeper problem and unless Bajaj or Kawasaki can resolve this issue I fear the 200 NS will fail in the Philippines. The problem is not going away.
                      Is it a design flaw? shoddy assembly or purposeful marketing of second quality parts to an export market?
                      Most liquid cooled motorcycles have two seals between the water pump and the crankcase, when and if the first mechanical seal fails, it serves as a warning to service the seals BEFORE coolant mixes with the oil. In the case of the 200 Ns there is only one seal provided, so if it fails on the road you risk ruining the engine.
                      since the 200 NS shares the bottom end with the Duke 200, its odd that only the 200 NS exported to the Philippines has this issue.
                      anyway it is all over the forums and Facebook pages here.

                      Any incidents in India?

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                      • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                        Originally posted by JDD View Post
                        This is an alert, and a general inquiry, and also a complaint if you will have it.

                        The 200 NS was released in the Philippines about November 2014. since that time there have been numerous (some calculate over 60% affected) incidents of coolant mixing with the oil in the crankcase. these cases have been documented by the Naked Wolves group in the Philippines. There has been much speculation as to why the single seal between the water pump impeller shaft and crankcase have repeatedly failed. Kawasaki Bajaj is repairing these instances at no charge but some are getting second third and fourth failures. there has been no recall, no word of advice forthcoming from Kawasaki Bajaj on what the problem is and what might be the reason. there have been ideas ranging from defective seal, to improper installation of the seal to defective spindles and bearings being installed in the Philippine export models. Interestingly to me, there seem to have been no cases of this in the other markets? India or south America. Is this true?

                        The kawasaki story is that the seals were improperly installed at the factory, but if this were true then why repeated occurrences on the same bike after service center repair? I suspect a deeper problem and unless Bajaj or Kawasaki can resolve this issue I fear the 200 NS will fail in the Philippines. The problem is not going away.
                        Is it a design flaw? shoddy assembly or purposeful marketing of second quality parts to an export market?
                        Most liquid cooled motorcycles have two seals between the water pump and the crankcase, when and if the first mechanical seal fails, it serves as a warning to service the seals BEFORE coolant mixes with the oil. In the case of the 200 Ns there is only one seal provided, so if it fails on the road you risk ruining the engine.
                        since the 200 NS shares the bottom end with the Duke 200, its odd that only the 200 NS exported to the Philippines has this issue.
                        anyway it is all over the forums and Facebook pages here.

                        Any incidents in India?
                        Anybody thought about this?

                        A faulty (or wrongly designed) radiator cap can cause excess pressure buildup in the cooling system, and the weakest item will fail (leak) eventually

                        Sent from my CRXT 1125Q using xBhp Connect mobile app
                        Last edited by krixna; 05-13-2015, 05:28 PM.

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                        • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                          Originally posted by krixna View Post
                          Anybody thought about this?

                          A faulty (or wrongly designed) radiator cap can cause excess pressure buildup in the cooling system, and the weakest item will fail (leak) eventually

                          Sent from my CRXT 1125Q using xBhp Connect mobile app
                          It has been my suspicion that the failed seal is a symptom rather than the cause, so all radiator caps should be faulty if they are all designed by Bajaj for all 200 NS around the world. unless they put different caps on the Philippine model. food for thought, but you would think the Kawasaki techs would have figured that out.

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                          Last edited by JDD; 05-13-2015, 06:23 PM.

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                          • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                            Originally posted by JDD View Post
                            It has been my suspicion that the failed seal is a symptom rather than the cause, so all radiator caps should be faulty if they are all designed by Bajaj for all 200 NS around the world. unless they put different caps on the Philippine model. food for thought, but you would think the Kawasaki techs would have figured that out.

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                            I had this problem in my car, now solved. Only on the second time the problem was found to be the cap, not the seal. Just said... one of the reasons for cooling system leaks. Higher thermostat setting also can create problems...can make the coolant temperature go higher, which can soften rubber parts more. But the problem can be just the seal itself. You see, production is in batches. Ones for the export market come from a separate batch. For example, take your EGR. I in India do not have it. Your bike has come out with different specs than mine. So maybe a batch of bikes sent to Phil used a batch of faulty seals, that's all. Maybe from a different supplier. Kawasaki does not make seals

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                            • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                              yes I know Kawasaki does not make seals, but in the Philippines they handle all the warranty service. but of course it makes sense about the "batch" concept. i just wish some one would step up and be accountable for the issue and offer a real solution. for example a recall. it is at that point. people here are considering legal action against Kawasaki Bajaj. Bajaj has too many alliances with third parties, KTM, Kawasaki. it makes for unclear liability and accountability.

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                              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                                Originally posted by JDD View Post
                                yes I know Kawasaki does not make seals, but in the Philippines they handle all the warranty service. but of course it makes sense about the "batch" concept. i just wish some one would step up and be accountable for the issue and offer a real solution. for example a recall. it is at that point. people here are considering legal action against Kawasaki Bajaj. Bajaj has too many alliances with third parties, KTM, Kawasaki. it makes for unclear liability and accountability.
                                KB uses so many parts from so many third parties. They should conform to some stringent quality standards/tests to be a supplier to KB. But nobody checks each lot of stuff they supply, do they? If the problem is the seal itself, then take this bad news. To make things worse, the same batch of problematic seals may have been sent to Phil as spares backup too!!

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