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**jbm_guy** · 06-17-2015, 02:38 PM

Re: Can we add RS200's ABS & bigger front disc on 200NS

Originally posted by vivek7593 View Post

Again abs is not something that you can plonk in anywhere ..
Wheel locks can be avoided with proper engine breaking and modulating brake pedal pressure ..

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Sadly that's the truth. But Dual channel ABS is a great to have

**GauravD** · 06-17-2015, 02:47 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by sanjanikar View Post

First Impressions..........

Received my Pulsar 200NS on Monday. Some prologue,

Booked 200NS through GSM Bajaj, Gurgaon. On the day of delivery, person crashed the vehicle while bringing from showroom. Showroom guy was nice enough to cancel the booking and agreed to return deposit since I was adment on having black color and they have none.
Then I contacted Krishna Bajaj, another Bajaj dealer in city and they informed me that one truck is unloading on monday. Went there in the evening and they had a black 200NS ready for me. Paid in cash and all paperwork done in half an hour.
Received bike had 0 km on Odo and the manufacturing date was in March 2015. Checked the preliminary things and looked ok except did not see engine oil level. Mechanic then made the pulsar stand straight and then could some oil level, just above min mark.
Bike came with MRF RevZs in front and back.
Dealer gave a free helmet but did not have center stand in stock.
Paid 102936 INR for bike, RC and 1 year insurance. Insured amount is ~87000 INR. Dealer said that the price goes down by 5% as soon as vehicle comes on road. Weird.

Completed just 60 km on ODO. Now first impressions,

Lets get out bad impressions first,

Thank god I am 5"10'. But my father had difficult time getting on the pillion seat. Mostly I will drive alone so it doesn't really matter.
It is difficult to drive 200NS in crawling speed. Specially in run in period.
It is short geared and gear itself are not as smooth (specially upshifting 3 and 4) as expected. Hopefully this will sort out in first servicing.
Need seat cushion and hand grip as soon as possible.
Turning radius higher than expected.

I in run in period so will reserve some good impressions for later date. First few,

Though its old model, I still love the looks. I actually dont care about looks etc but I have to make exception for 200NS.
I am pretty positive that ride quality will be excellent after getting seat cushion and handgrip. Even now its very good.
Handling is very good.
Braking does give confidence. My reference is 2010 yamaha FZ.
Linear power delivery

Run in points that I am following:

Wait for 1 min after starting the vehicle for engine warmup and lubrication.
I am trying to keep the RPM below 4000 before 500 km (5000 for km 500-1000). usually vary RPM between 2500 to 3500. I am not watching the speed much. But once RPM crosses 3000, change gear. Its simpler than remembering the Bajaj speed chart.
Stopping bike every 15-20 km for cooloff. Driving on city roads.
Planning to do first oil and oil filter change at 200 km.
Noticeable vibrations at speed 30-40 km/hr. More pronounced at foot pegs.

Planning to visit Korol Bagh this weekend to look for,

Helmet: Studds scorpion or Vega Axor. Can spend up to 4000 but so many fake's are circulating for LS2 etc so feels like settling on indian brand.
Seat Cushion and hand grip
Some Tyre stickers

Hello bro... Were able to make that trip to KB.. I also own a Feb 2015 NS (black red) and am looking for some cushioned handgrips and seat covers, not to forget a good full face helmet which I want to take with me on touring. Any references you could provide to me ?

Thanks mate.. where in gurgaon you from ?

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Originally posted by vishanth View Post

Short clutch?? Can you explain in detail?? And send some pics too

Hi... short clutch is more like a regular clutch with distance adjustment capabilities regarding the amount that the lever has to travel from max to min... its got a distance adjustment setting.. I have it on my NS and I truly agree it makes life a lot easier for the left hand on the NS which requires freq gear changing in city traffic .. read gurgaon...

Check pic below :

The red dial is the pivot for increasing / decreasing travel distance.

Trust a fellow rider.. its way better and easier on the hand than stock

cheers !

**vivek7593** · 06-17-2015, 03:31 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post

Sadly that's the truth. But Dual channel ABS is a great to have

Its simple then .. go for a bike that has abs

I have seen people cribbing for abs after buying the bike which is just stupidity ..

Originally posted by GauravD View Post

Hello bro... Were able to make that trip to KB.. I also own a Feb 2015 NS (black red) and am looking for some ... :

[ATTACH]185070[/ATTACH]

cheers !

Uh bro these are chinese ones right ?
They are likely to break and hurt your fingers in event of an accident ..
Plus they are filmsy and not as strong as the stock levers ..
If you want look in zmr ownership thread rrenave sir ( i hope the name is correct ) had and accident with those levers which badly injured his fingers ..
Also a frnd had on his karizma r which were hellish to use even though it was a direct fit .. And the most common part to give up was the travel distance adjuster..

Not that i am disregarding or something ..
Safety point should also be considered ..
Alternatively you can look up youtube to see how adjust stock levers ..

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**GauravD** · 06-17-2015, 04:05 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by srisathiyan89 View Post

Not so much below 5k. we can take 4900-5000 RPM..but above mentioned 5k RPM it does 67 KM/h right but i am very sure my bike do 60-63 in and around 4200 RPM.

I maintain tyre pressure 31/32 for back and 29 for front.

I dont know how much milege its giving/so far never tired to calculate(if people here tell me any other method other than reserve to reserve, probably i will try calculating).. highway milege is definitely above 45kmpl when i drive at 55-60kmph. i mentioned the same in a discussion some times back.

Hi... I do not use the Reserve to Reserve method since I,personally, find it inaccurate (or maybe my maths has gone for a toss

). The method I use is as follows :

1. Top up the petrol. Lock and ride
2. After a few days (depending on how much i have ridden) I go and refill it again to full
3. That way i know exactly how much fuel has been used.
4. Using the simple mathematical expression, Mileage = Distance travelled (use the Trip meter for that purpose) / Litres filled second time (the petrol pump guage)

If any one has a better and more accurate method would be highly grateful.

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Originally posted by deep007 View Post

1400rpm

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Originally posted by ankur2smart View Post

I had this issue but that was because of bad tunning. However, try what cleaner told.

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1400 is a way too high idle speed. I took it my mechanic and bribed him 50 bucks to properly do up the RPM as it used to keep fluctuating on idle. He attached a meter of sorts and did some adjustments to the fuel dial thing on the carburettor, then set the rpm dial (sorry not being able to recall the exact technical names) near the engine and it has not changed since then. As per this guy, Bajaj trained and personally shown his certification, the engine idle speed should be round 1100 - 1150 when cold idling and about 1300 when hot.

Request veterans to comment if i am correct in saying so.

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Originally posted by sieze.s View Post

Hi Prince, yesterday I was on my way to somewhere and checked it very carefully after half an hour ride and there was that 'tik-tik' noise. After completing my journey of around one and half hour i can easily hear that sound even while sitting on the bike. even in 4-5th gear,bike was sometimes creating lot of noise (note - only few times, like after an one and half hour journey, 1 out of 10 times i could hear)
I noticed power loss also. as I've completed my run-in hence decided to take the RPM to its limits, bike was under performing(felt the same power as of RTR 180). even on 6th gear bike was not crossing 135 kmph even sometimes i feel like even giving full throttle bike is slowing down instead of speeding up or remaining constant(only on 6th gear around 8-9K RMP).
can it be also due to tappet? or there could be any other issue as well?

Experienced riders, please help

Not sure about the tik tik noise since i do not have that on my NS.. errr yet ! however related to the speeds.. i used to face that when the fuel - air ration was off mark. get that set and you'd be all set to touch. On NH8 i have done 140 + on my NS and i still feel it isnt yet sapped up. What is the cold and hot idling speeds ? i am not saying it is but the AFR could be an issue.

**sieze.s** · 06-17-2015, 04:10 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by GauravD View Post

Not sure about the tik tik noise since i do not have that on my NS.. errr yet ! however related to the speeds.. i used to face that when the fuel - air ration was off mark. get that set and you'd be all set to touch. On NH8 i have done 140 + on my NS and i still feel it isnt yet sapped up. What is the cold and hot idling speeds ? i am not saying it is but the AFR could be an issue.

Issue has been sorted out dear. It was the tappet which was adjusted by SVC Guys. Now bike is rev friendly and i've touched 150. 145+ a lot of times.
Edit : AFR was the issue too.

**GauravD** · 06-17-2015, 04:13 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by vivek7593 View Post

Its simple then .. go for a bike that has abs

I have seen people cribbing for abs after buying the bike which is just stupidity ..

Uh bro these are chinese ones right ?
They are likely to break and hurt your fingers in event of an accident ..
Plus they are filmsy and not as strong as the stock levers ..
If you want look in zmr ownership thread rrenave sir ( i hope the name is correct ) had and accident with those levers which badly injured his fingers ..
Also a frnd had on his karizma r which were hellish to use even though it was a direct fit .. And the most common part to give up was the travel distance adjuster..

Not that i am disregarding or something ..
Safety point should also be considered ..
Alternatively you can look up youtube to see how adjust stock levers ..

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Lol.. this is a pic taken off the net for sake of showing what adjustables one look like ... not the ones on my bike

don't trust the Chinese anyhow !! although yes will have a look at adjusting the stock levers... i changed onto these since i met with an accident due to which had to undergo an amputation on my index finger so basically have about 3 fingers to engage the clutch... once the healing is complete would be changing back to stock

**sieze.s** · 06-17-2015, 04:39 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by GauravD View Post

Hello bro... Were able to make that trip to KB.. I also own a Feb 2015 NS (black red) and am looking for some cushioned handgrips and seat covers, not to forget a good full face helmet which I want to take with me on touring. Any references you could provide to me ?

Thanks mate.. where in gurgaon you from ?

You may find them all in karol bagh. Swapnil(Sajnikar) was injured few time. I think he is now recovered and would be able to make it up with you. contact me, pm'ed you my contact details.

**sanjanikar** · 06-17-2015, 04:44 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

[QUOTE=GauravD;1156908]Hello bro... Were able to make that trip to KB.. I also own a Feb 2015 NS (black red) and am looking for some cushioned handgrips and seat covers, not to forget a good full face helmet which I want to take with me on touring. Any references you could provide to me ?

Thanks mate.. where in gurgaon you from ?

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Gaurav,

I bought a THH full face helmet from Chopra Auto in Karol Bagh. It may seems to be a small shop but they have decent collection of helmets. I really liked the honesty of these guys. They showed me multiple LS2 options and told me beforehand that it is Chinese made. Try helmet first before buying it. I remember to spent ~3500 for the helmet. I really like the helmet since it has space to put ear plugs or ear phones plus multiple air vents. Wind noise is minimal below 60 kph.

I also bought the hand grip and seat cushion from the same place. For seat cushion, I just added the 1 inch padding which cost me ~150 INR.

**jbm_guy** · 06-17-2015, 06:37 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by vivek7593 View Post

Its simple then .. go for a bike that has abs

I have seen people cribbing for abs after buying the bike which is just stupidity ..

I hope you are not calling me Stupid

LoL.....

I realize the need at times, esp when on panic braking. I'm not a pro, but just a decent rider. I use to brake in very advance and use engine braking often. But these things don't apply when abnormal things happen. Recently when riding at 90-100Kph, I suddenly encountered a speed breaker, which was not visible or had no road sign board until I was close say 10-20 meters. I quickly recognized that at that speed, I'd be thrown out of the bike and had to apply both appropriately with more power on front, but the rear locked very soon did a say ~20deg skid and it took me sometime to recognize the wheel slip and I released it. But since the speed was down by somewhere around 60kmph, the pothole didn't cause any trouble and I recovered from the skid.

I couldn't really see where did I make mistake here. Because when in such braking, the rear locks very soon even if applied a little pressure not 100%, that's because of the weight distribution going toward front. If I hadn't released it, it would've cause a severe accident. Some good riders might apply the ratio very effectively based on speed, even I do. But that doesn't hold true in panic braking, for eg in this case

ABS is mandatory, But I know I'm stupid enough to ask for ABS in a lac bike or a sub-quarted bike. But for Indian roads, an ABS is required for all performance motorcycles. With my previous bike, I've never felt ABS was needed as it was a 10bhp mule

BTW, I knew NS didn't have ABS at the time of buying it....!!!

**vivek7593** · 06-17-2015, 06:49 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post

I hope you are not calling me Stupid

LoL.....

I realize the need at times, esp when on panic braking. I'm not a pro, .:

BTW, I knew NS didn't have ABS at the time of buying it....!!!

No i am not calling you anything ...
Thats the general attitude of people i am talking about ..
No ones a pro .. Even i had panic braking situation but i swear under hard braking the rear or front never locked not even once on dry surface .. During rains yes it happened once but never on dry ..

But before buying you about this absence abs right ??
My point was simple want abs burn a hole in your pocket and get abs ..
Cribbing for fi or abs in a sub one lac bike is not justfied ..

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**sieze.s** · 06-17-2015, 07:18 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post

I hope you are not calling me Stupid

LoL.....

I realize the need at times, esp when on panic braking. I'm not a pro, but just a decent rider. I use to brake in very advance and use engine braking often. But these things don't apply when abnormal things happen. Recently when riding at 90-100Kph, I suddenly encountered a speed breaker, which was not visible or had no road sign board until I was close say 10-20 meters. I quickly recognized that at that speed, I'd be thrown out of the bike and had to apply both appropriately with more power on front, but the rear locked very soon did a say ~20deg skid and it took me sometime to recognize the wheel slip and I released it. But since the speed was down by somewhere around 60kmph, the pothole didn't cause any trouble and I recovered from the skid.

I couldn't really see where did I make mistake here. Because when in such braking, the rear locks very soon even if applied a little pressure not 100%, that's because of the weight distribution going toward front. If I hadn't released it, it would've cause a severe accident. Some good riders might apply the ratio very effectively based on speed, even I do. But that doesn't hold true in panic braking, for eg in this case

ABS is mandatory, But I know I'm stupid enough to ask for ABS in a lac bike or a sub-quarted bike. But for Indian roads, an ABS is required for all performance motorcycles. With my previous bike, I've never felt ABS was needed as it was a 10bhp mule

BTW, I knew NS didn't have ABS at the time of buying it....!!!

Pothole or speed breaker?? nice try

**krixna** · 06-17-2015, 07:27 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post

I hope you are not calling me Stupid

LoL.....

I realize the need at times, esp when on panic braking. I'm not a pro, but just a decent rider. I use to brake in very advance and use engine braking often. But these things don't apply when abnormal things happen. Recently when riding at 90-100Kph, I suddenly encountered a speed breaker, which was not visible or had no road sign board until I was close say 10-20 meters. I quickly recognized that at that speed, I'd be thrown out of the bike and had to apply both appropriately with more power on front, but the rear locked very soon did a say ~20deg skid and it took me sometime to recognize the wheel slip and I released it. But since the speed was down by somewhere around 60kmph, the pothole didn't cause any trouble and I recovered from the skid.

I couldn't really see where did I make mistake here. Because when in such braking, the rear locks very soon even if applied a little pressure not 100%, that's because of the weight distribution going toward front. If I hadn't released it, it would've cause a severe accident. Some good riders might apply the ratio very effectively based on speed, even I do. But that doesn't hold true in panic braking, for eg in this case

ABS is mandatory, But I know I'm stupid enough to ask for ABS in a lac bike or a sub-quarted bike. But for Indian roads, an ABS is required for all performance motorcycles. With my previous bike, I've never felt ABS was needed as it was a 10bhp mule

BTW, I knew NS didn't have ABS at the time of buying it....!!!

Bro, if ABS is made mandatory, no 150+ cc performance oriented bike will sell under 1 lakh. So, manufacturers give it as a higher end option. I have made good stops in all road conditions on my NS. But that is when I have a bit of anticipation of what comes up in front. And one time in panic (braking rules dont apply

), I screeched the tyres on the road, burnt rubber, and stopped the bike a foot short of a car in front. Now...if I had ABS, tyres would not have rubbed on the road, I would not have burnt rubber, and I would have crashed into the car. So, is ABS the final word in safety? No. It is how we apply brakes. But if you dont get any time at all, say, like a guy walking across the road suddenly, it is fate. Even ABS cant help you.

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**Satellite.kid** · 06-17-2015, 07:55 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by krixna View Post

Bro, if ABS is made mandatory, no 150+ cc performance oriented bike will sell under 1 lakh. So, manufacturers give it as a higher end option. I have made good stops in all road conditions on my NS. But that is when I have a bit of anticipation of what comes up in front. And one time in panic (braking rules dont apply

), I screeched the tyres on the road, burnt rubber, and stopped the bike a foot short of a car in front. Now...if I had ABS, tyres would not have rubbed on the road, I would not have burnt rubber, and I would have crashed into the car. So, is ABS the final word in safety? No. It is how we apply brakes. But if you dont get any time at all, say, like a guy walking across the road suddenly, it is fate. Even ABS cant help you.

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ABS, while preventing wheel lockup, allows for much better overall control of the vehicle especially under emergency braking. Since the wheel is not locked, the situation allows the rider/driver to steer the vehicle to safety which cannot be done if the wheel(s) get locked. On normal tarmac, the ABS reduces the braking distance in almost all attempts while on gravel there's a chance that the braking distance could be more with ABS. However still, as I said, ABS allows you to control/steer your vehicle much better in case of panic braking which can get impossible (on gravel/wet roads) without ABS and if wheels get locked.

In your particular case, I would say you were more lucky. There's a reason why companies are going mad for ABS since past few years.

**krixna** · 06-17-2015, 08:48 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post

ABS, while preventing wheel lockup, allows for much better overall control of the vehicle especially under emergency braking. Since the wheel is not locked, the situation allows the rider/driver to steer the vehicle to safety which cannot be done if the wheel(s) get locked. On normal tarmac, the ABS reduces the braking distance in almost all attempts while on gravel there's a chance that the braking distance could be more with ABS. However still, as I said, ABS allows you to control/steer your vehicle much better in case of panic braking which can get impossible (on gravel/wet roads) without ABS and if wheels get locked.

In your particular case, I would say you were more lucky. There's a reason why companies are going mad for ABS since past few years.

You do have a point there. And to be honest, I have not ridden a bike with ABS, so I have not compared anything. But cars, many models. And I have always felt the panic, rubber burning braking distance is less than that for ABS. See, I live in Kochi, Kerala. We have only around 120 days in a year when it does not rain! So I think your statement of gravel and wet roads applies to me. For dry tarmac, I think I can agree with what you said

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**lnagr** · 06-17-2015, 10:48 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by shawn123 View Post

thanks a ton bro I will use all of your points to check on a second hand bike and for d200 I have budget restriction hence its out of my list.last question can I expect a mileage of 35-40kmpl in a 15000km run p200NS because my father is really mileage minded thanks in advance

out of curiosity checked 2nd hand NS prices on olx. damn, bike has low resale value . you can get one in good condition for 50-60k easily.

as for average , i am getting 35 on my NS.

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