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  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Guys im switch to 7100 from dtsi oil
    Should i change oil filter too??

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    • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

      Friends I am planning for a One day solo trip to a nearby hill station (Kodaikanal) which is around 120Kms from my Home. This is the first time I will be ever going on solo for such a distance..

      I need your suggestions regarding what are the things I have to check before leaving and most of all, why one should do a solo ride (Sorry for asking philosophy )

      P.S : I have been on a trip for around 200Kms previously but with Pillion

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      • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

        Originally posted by kany1991 View Post
        Guys im switch to 7100 from dtsi oil
        Should i change oil filter too??
        It is advisable to do so. I switched to 5100 recently and did a filter change. The filter hardly costs 60 bucks along with the o-ring. And you will be draining the old oil from the oil filter housing anyway. So why not change the filter as well while you are at it.
        Last edited by sharadh; 03-05-2016, 08:55 PM.

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        • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

          Originally posted by kany1991 View Post
          Guys im switch to 7100 from dtsi oil
          Should i change oil filter too??
          Yes change oil filter please.

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          • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

            Originally posted by GauravD View Post
            [MENTION=72200]xplod566[/MENTION] - here you go bro
            Bro from my experience I have seen that NS has a bit less low end.i felt it when they replaced the carb,for one day throttle etc was good but the next day the pickup got a little less.I think that's how its designed.sure you can make the AFR a bit rich,may be 2.1 but the top end would suffer.
            Also if you tighten the chain the pickup increases though.

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            • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

              Originally posted by GauravD View Post
              [MENTION=72200]xplod566[/MENTION] - here you go bro
              Bro, which bike's engine has the bigger bore (cylinder dia), Bullet 350 or 200NS? Of course, Bullet. What a dumb Q you might think. But you are wrong !!!
              350 has a bore of 70 mm and 200NS has 72 mm! The bigger cc of Bullet comes from the bigger stroke length. NS has just 49 mm whereas the 350 has a 90 mm stroke. Almost double! Now why am I telling all this? Ah! The bigger the stroke, the more the torque, because of a bigger crank dia. *Especially at low rpms*
              So, don't expect any torque at low rpms with a 49 mm stroke. Above 3K rpm the torque starts rising and after 5K the bike is pulling like mad. So it's not a problem with your bike. It's there for all NS. Don't expect a decent low end. Because the engine is designed for higher rpms, with a smaller stroke and smaller crank. This also explains why the 350 can idle at even 300 rpm whereas the NS can't. Bigger stroke and crank matters a lot for low end.

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              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                Originally posted by krixna View Post
                Bro, which bike's engine has the bigger bore (cylinder dia), Bullet 350 or 200NS? Of course, Bullet. What a dumb Q you might think. But you are wrong !!!
                350 has a bore of 70 mm and 200NS has 72 mm! The bigger cc of Bullet comes from the bigger stroke length. NS has just 49 mm whereas the 350 has a 90 mm stroke. Almost double! Now why am I telling all this? Ah! The bigger the stroke, the more the torque, because of a bigger crank dia. *Especially at low rpms*
                So, don't expect any torque at low rpms with a 49 mm stroke. Above 3K rpm the torque starts rising and after 5K the bike is pulling like mad. So it's not a problem with your bike. It's there for all NS. Don't expect a decent low end. Because the engine is designed for higher rpms, with a smaller stroke and smaller crank. This also explains why the 350 can idle at even 300 rpm whereas the NS can't. Bigger stroke and crank matters a lot for low end.
                I am comparing the lower end torque what i had in the initial days. Its close to dead. That is why I am getting the whole bike checked free of cost. If the ASC is doing it free of cost then I thought I might as well get everything checked since it feels as the bike is being restricted in the lower end. It is not revving freely when in the lower rpms as if something is holding the tyres from rolling, if you know what i mean.

                Basically what I am trying to clarify is that the lower end of the bike feeling low is not due to carb but a feature of the bike itself. Also, looking to clear up the restrictions and doubts which I have. Upper end is not an issue at all. This morning on NH8 when there was no traffic as far as I could see I thought of opening the throttle as wide I could go. I did 120 with ease post which I ran out of road courtesy NHAI.

                Btw about another machine, a bigger beast, the CS400. I wrote in to Bajaj and as usual they shit care, no response. So i asked a friend of mine in my office who also happens to be the account manager for Bajaj to find out from his contacts. As per the info given Bajaj is aiming at Q3 for the rollout. 43bhp of power with a 375cc engine and about 35nm of torque sure is gonna rock.
                Last edited by GauravD; 03-05-2016, 10:48 PM.

                _______________________________
                As I lay my rubber on the street
                I pray for traction I can keep
                But if I spin and begin to slide
                I pray, dear God please protect my ride
                And if I lay down my bike today
                I pray to God I walk away...
                I walk away to ride another day

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                • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                  Totally agreed with [MENTION=74543]krixna[/MENTION] NS has shorter stroke that's y low end performance sucks on NS and need frequent gear shifting
                  In my 180 i can cruise at 22~25 kmph on top gear (at 2k rpm) but on NS we cant ride below 45kmph in top gear (3k rpm)

                  ***Update***
                  Filled 1.2L 7100 and changed oil filter too
                  man vibrations are reduced drastically [emoji7] [emoji7] [emoji7] now NS feels buttery smooth [emoji7] [emoji7] [emoji7]
                  Last edited by kany1991; 03-05-2016, 10:52 PM.

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                  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                    Originally posted by GauravD View Post
                    I am comparing the lower end torque what i had in the initial days. Its close to dead. That is why I am getting the whole bike checked free of cost. If the ASC is doing it free of cost then I thought I might as well get everything checked since it feels as the bike is being restricted in the lower end. It is not revving freely when in the lower rpms as if something is holding the tyres from rolling, if you know what i mean.

                    Basically what I am trying to clarify is that the lower end of the bike feeling low is not due to carb but a feature of the bike itself. Also, looking to clear up the restrictions and doubts which I have. Upper end is not an issue at all. This morning on NH8 when there was no traffic as far as I could see I thought of opening the throttle as wide I could go. I did 120 with ease post which I ran out of road courtesy NHAI.

                    Btw about another machine, a bigger beast, the CS400. I wrote in to Bajaj and as usual they shit care, no response. So i asked a friend of mine in my office who also happens to be the account manager for Bajaj to find out from his contacts. As per the info given Bajaj is aiming at Q3 for the rollout. 43bhp of power with a 375cc engine and about 35nm of torque sure is gonna rock.
                    The culprit is most probably the diaphragm
                    1. Either it has become less flexible over time
                    2. Or it has a tiny leak. Tiny hole, or improper fixing.

                    Result: for the same throttle opening as before, throttle piston is lifted up lesser. This gives the kind of drag that you are feeling.
                    Last edited by krixna; 03-05-2016, 11:08 PM.

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                    • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                      Originally posted by kany1991 View Post
                      Totally agreed with [MENTION=74543]krixna[/MENTION] NS has shorter stroke that's y low end performance sucks on NS and need frequent gear shifting
                      In my 180 i can cruise at 22~25 kmph on top gear (at 2k rpm) but on NS we cant ride below 45kmph in top gear (3k rpm)

                      ***Update***
                      Filled 1.2L 7100 and changed oil filter too
                      man vibrations are reduced drastically [emoji7] [emoji7] [emoji7] now NS feels buttery smooth [emoji7] [emoji7] [emoji7]
                      Thanks for that bro. Was not sure of changing to 7100. Now I will

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                      • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                        He is not talking about the low end torque of NS200.His particluar bike is having this problem.

                        lso after looking at this post (Stroke) i wanted to know how come the DUke has a high pickup from the word go comapred to NS200?

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                        • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                          Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                          He is not talking about the low end torque of NS200.His particluar bike is having this problem.

                          lso after looking at this post (Stroke) i wanted to know how come the DUke has a high pickup from the word go comapred to NS200?
                          Because of low weight 136 vs 147
                          extra bhp 24.6 vs 23.7
                          Extra torque 19.2 vs 18.3

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                          • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                            Originally posted by krixna View Post
                            The culprit is most probably the diaphragm
                            1. Either it has become less flexible over time
                            2. Or it has a tiny leak. Tiny hole, or improper fixing.

                            Result: for the same throttle opening as before, throttle piston is lifted up lesser. This gives the kind of drag that you are feeling.
                            The same is what I am thinking too. I have gotten the other possible causes out of the way. On monday most prolly will be going to finally get the carb worked on.

                            I have two options.. Either i force the asc to replace the entire carb or just diaphragm. Which do u guys suggest ?

                            _______________________________
                            As I lay my rubber on the street
                            I pray for traction I can keep
                            But if I spin and begin to slide
                            I pray, dear God please protect my ride
                            And if I lay down my bike today
                            I pray to God I walk away...
                            I walk away to ride another day

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                            • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                              I do not remember who had done but someone had lowered their NS by drilling a hole below the current mono shock.. To that gentleman.. Is the bike better than before in terms of ride comfort ? Does it bottom out over rough roads ?

                              Also how can we know what are specifics of the NS mono shock so that I can search around for a softer one..

                              Oh ya before I forget .. Recently there are a lot of false neutrals and false sensation of gear changing whereas it hasnt. It started just recently and will be getting the same looked at on Monday. Meanwhile any reasons why this could be happening ?
                              Last edited by GauravD; 03-05-2016, 11:48 PM.

                              _______________________________
                              As I lay my rubber on the street
                              I pray for traction I can keep
                              But if I spin and begin to slide
                              I pray, dear God please protect my ride
                              And if I lay down my bike today
                              I pray to God I walk away...
                              I walk away to ride another day

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                              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                                Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                                He is not talking about the low end torque of NS200.His particluar bike is having this problem.

                                lso after looking at this post (Stroke) i wanted to know how come the DUke has a high pickup from the word go comapred to NS200?
                                Originally posted by kany1991 View Post
                                Because of low weight 136 vs 147
                                extra bhp 24.6 vs 23.7
                                Extra torque 19.2 vs 18.3
                                It is mainly due to shorter gearing... and also what kany said above. But this is only a partial answer to your question. The rest of the answer is, some of the torque comes from injection. When you open the throttle suddenly for power, the throttle sensor and electronics kicks in and the injector spits out fuel with only a few milliseconds time lag (You can't get that performance with a normal carbureted engine). You can program the chip any way you want. Programming the injection to give a bit more fuel in the range where torque is low, and to spit at sudden throttle openings, compensates for some of the drawbacks of a short stroke. Down side is, lesser mileage. Compare mileage of NS to Duke.

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