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**Aditya N Bharadwaj** · 04-09-2013, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by Shibadip View Post

here is a pic of my DESTINY .. After a long time!!!!!!

Ok finally you've removed the tapes on the pulsar logo

couldn't help noticing

And what's with "The lava trip"?

**The Monk** · 04-09-2013, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by Siddharth Viswanathan View Post

I am currently an owner of a 3 months old 2100kms pulsar 200NS, and recently the ride has become quite hard and rough. So is it ok to to go for oil change because i heard DTSI oil is not that good enough. So any suggestions ppl?

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**B7ACKTHORN** · 04-09-2013, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by The Monk View Post

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Originally posted by Siddharth Viswanathan View Post

I am currently an owner of a 3 months old 2100kms pulsar 200NS, and recently the ride has become quite hard and rough. So is it ok to to go for oil change because i heard DTSI oil is not that good enough. So any suggestions ppl?

When was the last oil change done? And what oil was used in the last service? DTSI oil is only good for 4k MAX personally and have never used them after that. If the oil change was recent and the engine has become harsh and rough, and the oil used was DTSI, you can rest be assured that the Bajaj Oil is the culprit here. Try castrol power 1 Racing 10w50. Very good oil and costs some 700~ bucks

Cheers!
VJ

**Arun Magus** · 04-10-2013, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Hahaha, perhaps he did have some points, but it's his attitude that's what's messed it up so so badly. Peace out! lol

Cheers!
VJ

Agreeing to you completely.

**Aytas_sss** · 04-10-2013, 08:27 PM

I have been following the rev-downshift routine for the better part of a year now. Was a bit clunky when I started practising on my old P200 but got the hang of it soon enough. It's engine was already set and sweet at 29k on the odo. Due to force of habit,after the first service of my NS,I've been doing it unconsciously on my rides. 1000 kms on the odo. I am a bit concerned whether it'll affect engine life or the clutch plates etc. Can anyone help me stop freaking out mentally over my new bike every time I rev downshift spontaneously?

**s1d** · 04-11-2013, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by Aytas_sss View Post

I have been following the rev-downshift routine for the better part of a year now. Was a bit clunky when I started practising on my old P200 but got the hang of it soon enough. It's engine was already set and sweet at 29k on the odo. Due to force of habit,after the first service of my NS,I've been doing it unconsciously on my rides. 1000 kms on the odo. I am a bit concerned whether it'll affect engine life or the clutch plates etc. Can anyone help me stop freaking out mentally over my new bike every time I rev downshift spontaneously?

what do you mean by rev and downshift ? Do you rev and 'hold it there' while you downshift or just 'blip' the throttle to get the revs up and downshift ?
The latter is the correct way to do it.

**Aytas_sss** · 04-11-2013, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by s1d View Post

what do you mean by rev and downshift ? Do you rev and 'hold it there' while you downshift or just 'blip' the throttle to get the revs up and downshift ?
The latter is the correct way to do it.

I pull in the clutch while simultaneously blipping the throttle and downshifting letting the clutch out quickly. I mostly do this when I ride over 50kmph. In hindsight,I should've referred to it as rev-matched downshift.

**krish2778** · 04-11-2013, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by Aytas_sss View Post

I pull in the clutch while simultaneously blipping the throttle and downshifting letting the clutch out quickly. I mostly do this when I ride over 50kmph. In hindsight,I should've referred to it as rev-matched downshift.

Wouldnt it cause more wear and tear of transmission , clutch, drive train ? Would it be an ideal practise ?

Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

**hrishikeshvaze** · 04-11-2013, 01:34 PM

White pulsar 200ns.

I saw photographs of white pulsar 200 n's on Facebook today..is bajaj going to launch the new colours??? Very exited to see them on road.!!hopefully they will...!!

**Aytas_sss** · 04-11-2013, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Wouldnt it cause more wear and tear of transmission , clutch, drive train ? Would it be an ideal practise ?

Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

That's exactly the reason behind my initial question. When I started practising the routine,it was because of a popular opinion on the internet and some biking forums that rev-matched downshifts actually help in reducing clutch wear and more effective/less jerky braking on the race track as well as the street. I was intitally flummoxed by it but when I began to watch WSBK and WSS vids,as well as Keith Code's real cheesy but mind blowingly informative Twist of the wrist,I could make out from the sound that the riders would downshift while revving. Apparently it helps the most in bikes which don't use a slipper clutch. More searching on youtube also helped me find the correct way of going about the process. But now,when I unconsciously do that riding my spanking new bike,I freak out mentally wondering whether or not I am subjecting it to torture. :|

**Shibadip** · 04-11-2013, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post

Ok finally you've removed the tapes on the pulsar logo

couldn't help noticing

And what's with "The lava trip"?

The logo tapes ...... Thansk for noticing, and remembering..

yes it was the "LAVA" trip...
here are some more pics...

**B7ACKTHORN** · 04-11-2013, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by Aytas_sss View Post

I have been following the rev-downshift routine for the better part of a year now. Was a bit clunky when I started practising on my old P200 but got the hang of it soon enough. It's engine was already set and sweet at 29k on the odo. Due to force of habit,after the first service of my NS,I've been doing it unconsciously on my rides. 1000 kms on the odo. I am a bit concerned whether it'll affect engine life or the clutch plates etc. Can anyone help me stop freaking out mentally over my new bike every time I rev downshift spontaneously?

Originally posted by Aytas_sss View Post

I pull in the clutch while simultaneously blipping the throttle and downshifting letting the clutch out quickly. I mostly do this when I ride over 50kmph. In hindsight,I should've referred to it as rev-matched downshift.

First off as s1d as pointed out, blipping the throttle a bit and downshifting is the right thing to do, and it gives you sense of feeling that the bike's gearbox isn't getting owned. Now that being said, superbikes, have high compression ratio which naturally with their type of clutch systems they are tend to be ridden that way, and that's how they're meant to be ridden.

Notice, how they down shift... it goes like this.. downshift....rum dum dum dum sound.... downshift... rum dum dum dum... downshift, this is how it's supposed to be. If you continue your practice in a superbike, you'd get thrown off your bike before even you know especially if you accidentally forget to blip the throttle at low gears.

Don't follow that unless you want to put unnecessary strain on the gearbox and internals, which definitely it would.

Cheers!
VJ

**Aytas_sss** · 04-11-2013, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

First off as s1d as pointed out, blipping the throttle a bit and downshifting is the right thing to do, and it gives you sense of feeling that the bike's gearbox isn't getting owned. Now that being said, superbikes, have high compression ratio which naturally with their type of clutch systems they are tend to be ridden that way, and that's how they're meant to be ridden.

Notice, how they down shift... it goes like this.. downshift....rum dum dum dum sound.... downshift... rum dum dum dum... downshift, this is how it's supposed to be. If you continue your practice in a superbike, you'd get thrown off your bike before even you know especially if you accidentally forget to blip the throttle at low gears.

Don't follow that unless you want to put unnecessary strain on the gearbox and internals, which definitely it would.

Cheers!
VJ

Thanks for clarifying. So,essentially this routine is virtually useless on a sub-quarter litre bike,eh? Personally I have felt that gear transitions are smoother and especially when the NS is lacking in the low end torque under 3K rpm. But if it's putting additional strain on the gearbox,I'd gladly stay away.

**B7ACKTHORN** · 04-11-2013, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by Aytas_sss View Post

Thanks for clarifying. So,essentially this routine is virtually useless on a sub-quarter litre bike,eh? Personally I have felt that gear transitions are smoother and especially when the NS is lacking in the low end torque under 3K rpm. But if it's putting additional strain on the gearbox,I'd gladly stay away.

I never said "useless" as such.

But it doesn't necessarily need to be that way. Just make sure you get the RPM feel and your instincts will automatically follow.

Cheers!
VJ

**Devans J Patwaa** · 04-11-2013, 07:00 PM

A query

Rich AFR = good performance, low FE, low vibs, higher chances of higher carbon setting in the combustion chamber

Lean AFR = lower performance, higher FE, higher vibs.

Now, m not concerned about the performance here and not even about the FE. So now the equation stays at

Rich = low vibs but higher carbon settlement
Low= higher vibs

Am not good at articulating this question but here it goes

I am worried that the higher vibs at a leaner mixture will damage my engine in some way in the long run but at the other end am also worried that the carbon settlement at richer mixture will also damage it in the long run. So what is better or rather lesser damaging, high vibs lean mix, or low vibs but higher carbon content richer mix

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