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  • #241
    Re: Gixxer engine stalling while idling and break-in period.

    Crawling in 2nd gear? Why not 1st? You were lugging the engine. It didn't have many revs to work out upon. Downshift to 1st in such cases.

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    • #242
      Re: Gixxer engine stalling while idling and break-in period.

      are you saying you are trying to move the bike in 2-4 kmph on second gear? bro.. please use 1st gear.. ride in 1st gear till 10 kmph and then shift to 2nd..

      It isn't stalling.. the bike wanted you to downshift to 1st...
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      • #243
        Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

        Originally posted by Manu27 View Post
        @babaji, from B'lore. I booked in the same showroom as sshiremath2000 did. But he was lucky!
        i guess the demand for gixxer has gone up. when i booked, i think it was hardly 2 weeks since they started delivering the bike. also blue is in more demand and red being next. for them the showroom guy told the waiting period will be two weeks while for other colors, its 2-3 days.

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        • #244
          Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

          [QUOTE=SparKot;1099527]Once warmed up, O-Ring chains are no different than conventional chains; even better as lube is locked inside but thrown out in case conventional chains.


          Hi! May i know how you are sure that post-warm-up performance of both chains are equitable?

          Also, maintenance of a regular chain is like a bicycle, every few hundred kms, lube it appropriately, and you are all set to go.

          Also, the O-rings i feel are finicky. If you are not careful while lubing, and crack one of the rings, the lube is going to seep out, effectively nullifying the usefulness of the chain. Granted, it has a much longer lifespan, but dirt and grime that settles in, is tougher to clean off in a O-ring.

          Maybe iam just overthinking such a simple aspect!

          Cheers!

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          • #245
            Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

            Originally posted by radikel View Post
            Hi! May i know how you are sure that post-warm-up performance of both chains are equitable?
            That's what I found out upon digging over internet.
            One similar discussion I read some time back : http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/922...vs-non-o-ring/

            Originally posted by radikel View Post
            Also, maintenance of a regular chain is like a bicycle, every few hundred kms, lube it appropriately, and you are all set to go.
            Conventional chain starts to wear from the first day of use. O-Ring chain's wearing is kept in check till O-Rings give up, after which it pretty much takes conventional chain's wearing pattern if not more.

            Below graph is less technical kind a like "explanation you get from a road-side mechanic or SVC personnel for an issue".




            * Lube-Free Chain : O-Ring types

            Originally posted by radikel View Post
            Also, the O-rings i feel are finicky. If you are not careful while lubing, and crack one of the rings, the lube is going to seep out, effectively nullifying the usefulness of the chain. Granted, it has a much longer lifespan, but dirt and grime that settles in, is tougher to clean off in a O-ring.
            Most of the motorcycles with open-chain cover prefer O-Ring chains, especially off-road bikes and the reason is very apparent.

            xBHP thread on it : http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...brication.html
            The one I read sometime back :
            Chain O-ring WD-40 exposure effects study and results - ADVrider
            PART II WD-40 O-ring exposure effect results - ADVrider : Basically Kerosene is a better chain-clean. What about Blue-Kerosene? Heaven knows !!!

            Bottom-Line : For most customers like me in India it boils down to economy(mileage) of chains & their maintenance. Motul Chain Clean & Lube doesn't fit the bill but Kerosene + EP-90 API GL-4 Gear-Oil does. And EP-90 Gear-Oil is sticky, we don't want that either, any better option?

            Getting more life from roller chain
            http://machinedesign.com/mechanical-drives/getting-more-life-roller-chain
            The most common power-transmission chain used for industrial applications is hardened carbon steel roller chain. Although these chains may perform well even under neglect, life...

            Options are open for experiments all the time.
            Last edited by SparKot; 10-14-2014, 02:07 PM.
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            • #246
              Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

              Originally posted by SparKot View Post
              Bottom-Line : For most customers like me in India it boils down to economy(mileage) of chains & their maintenance. Motul Chain Clean & Lube doesn't fit the bill but Kerosene + EP-90 API GL-4 Gear-Oil does. And EP-90 Gear-Oil is sticky, we don't want that either, any better option?
              cleaning with kero, and lubing with ep90 is the most economical way and gives as much protection as most chain lubes. naked chains do give up sooner compared to covered one, but as you said economy is what matters.. I don't see a point in spending 500+500rs for a chain clean+lube spray combo that lasts say two-three months max.. when you can get an entire chain+sprocket kit for most bikes for under 2000rs. The sprays are handy in emergencies or for one off use when you are unable to spend time to clean n lube chain.
              there is nothing sticky about the ep90.. its perfect for most of the chains.. just that it smells horrible
              as always dont overdo it, and make sure you wipe of the excess with a rag.

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              • #247
                Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

                Originally posted by s1d View Post
                ...
                there is nothing sticky about the ep90.. its perfect for most of the chains.. just that it smells horrible
                as always dont overdo it, and make sure you wipe of the excess with a rag.
                This is what a chain OEM has to say about lubing O-Ring Chains : http://www.diamondchain.com/img/O-ri...aintenance.pdf

                Maintenance Instructions
                A lightweight oil (i.e. SAE 30W motor oil) should be applied manually to the external surfaces of the chain and o-ring on a periodic basis.
                The lubrication frequency only needs to be often enough to keep the o-ring from drying out and cracking, and to keep rust from forming on the
                surface of the parts                . The frequency would need to be increased as the operating temperature of the chain increases.
                I've never used SAE 30W motor oil, but we can presume it will be flung off easily. However, it shouldn't take more than 5min to apply another coat with open-chain-cover. Every time you reach home after a long journey or during tea/water/toilet/lunch/dinner breaks on long journeys.

                Click image for larger version Name: viscosity-SAE-ISO_ss.jpg Views: 2 Size: 76.8 KB ID: 1892123
                Apparently, EP-90 is close to SAE-30W oil.

                If buying a motorcycle is marriage, rider will be in high spirits to spend more for maintenance during honeymoon phase. I know I was, ended up buying Motul Chain Lube & Clean for just conventional roller-chain.
                Last edited by SparKot; 10-14-2014, 03:34 PM.
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                • #248
                  Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

                  Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                  If buying a motorcycle is marriage, rider will be in high spirits to spend more for maintenance during honeymoon phase. I know I was, ended up buying Motul Chain Lube & Clean for just conventional roller-chain.
                  haha yes.. but ofcourse you learn your lesson and get wiser !
                  we are going ot.. lets leave this discussion for the oil/chain thread. majority of discussions on this forum seem to be related to oil or tires

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                  • #249
                    Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

                    Guys as i was reading the above posts on how to maitian the chain, i remember this horror thing and posting here. Team-BHP - The Definitive Indian Car Community google if the link is not working - donot clean motorcycle chain bike running 1st gear - teambhp. The author has his fingers cut off during Motorcycle chain cleaning by keeping the bike on main stand and running it on first gear.Please be carefull and never try this. spread this meassage to others.He also added to say this - "I though that this type of accident must be very uncommon and I am one of the rear ones, but my doctor and other hospital staff told me that they have the same cases coming to them every month."
                    Last edited by kathi; 10-14-2014, 04:14 PM.

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                    • #250
                      Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

                      Hi,

                      Here are pic after the 1st service, it costed me 562 Rs and done at 535 kms
                      Oil - 248.92
                      Filter - 31.44
                      Bulb - 63.63
                      Consumbles - 60.00
                      3M Polishing - 90.00

                      Leg/Crash guard got it installed for 750 Rs. I am thinking of installing the helmet lock to the leg/crash guard as I did not find any place for it

                      I guess 3M polishing is not worth it getting done, next time I won't go for it. The service manager told me come again when I have driven for 1000 kms for chain cleaning and lubrication which going to cost 150Rs.
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                      • #251
                        Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

                        So much of technical information shared abt chain.... Thanks for the updates..... But these graphs & images beyond my understanding

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                        • #252
                          Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

                          Today, touched 100Kmph few times on open stretches of road.. The bike was @ 7,000 RPM... It feels rock solid....

                          You can cruise @ consistent speeds between 85 - 95 Kmph on the ODO & the bike is @ ease.... No hint of strain on the engine......I think it is fantastic tourer after Karizma... I don't find much difference between Gixxer & Karizma when it comes to cruising at these speeds... Am able to take corners more confident on the Gixxer

                          I seriously feel that Suzuki should consider a 200 - 250cc bike with 4 valves, Air-cooled & fuel injected for those who love motorcycles ...

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                          • #253
                            Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

                            They already have inzuma 250
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                            • #254
                              Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

                              Originally posted by deep007 View Post
                              They already have inzuma 250
                              Sent from my C2004 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                              Yeah right... Inazuma is 3 times pricier than Gixxer... For a 100cc increase is that justified? What i meant in my previous post was a single cylinder 250cc machine, which is produced in India & affordable like Gixxer....

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                              • #255
                                Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

                                Originally posted by elangoas View Post
                                Today, touched 100Kmph few times on open stretches of road.. The bike was @ 7,000 RPM... It feels rock solid....

                                You can cruise @ consistent speeds between 85 - 95 Kmph on the ODO & the bike is @ ease.... No hint of strain on the engine......I think it is fantastic tourer after Karizma... I don't find much difference between Gixxer & Karizma when it comes to cruising at these speeds... Am able to take corners more confident on the Gixxer

                                I seriously feel that Suzuki should consider a 200 - 250cc bike with 4 valves, Air-cooled & fuel injected for those who love motorcycles ...
                                your words are music to my ears
                                cruising at 85-95kmph is just great!

                                completed 800km today and gave for service. will hit the roads and test the limits of gixxer...

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