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first of all the question arises, WHY ? was it so important to submerge the bike in knee deep water, I feel sad for the bike.Originally posted by Vicky_New_Guy View PostI took my bike to Tungareshwar(Vasai)... I had to cross 2 water bodies 100m long and knee height water twice. Since then my bike feels sluggish or jammed... Both the wheels are free... There's no pick up at all... I had to stop in the water for around a minute...
What could be the issue??? Water penetrating somewhere in the bike???
Water might have gotten in the engine through the exhaust pipe, check for foamy engine oil through the oil inspection window. if there is foam, water has sure shot entered the engine bay and get your carb cleaned up as well.
Cheers,
Sanjay
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Get the bearings and cone set checked. and for tyres the FZS has the below specfications and tyre ratingOriginally posted by deebee View PostMy bike's front end feels a bit weird. The wheel feels loose, while the handlebar is tight. The bike is following the smallest of tracks on the road (tramlining) and is being pushed off the chosen line by road imperfections.
Any suggestions? The cone set and fork oil are due for replacement. Should I get the wheel bearings checked too?
The Eurogrips have sufficient tread left, but I'm considering a move to MRF* anyway.
The bike has done around 13,000 km.
*For the front, I've shortlisted the FZ V2.0 and Gixxer's tyres. Same size as the AS200 (100/80-17), though I'll have to check the speed and load ratings (52P).
For the rear, I'm thinking of going with the R15 V2.0 (130/70-17).
What about the CBR150R's tyres? Both ends are the same size as the AS200.
And the below is the speed rating for AS 200100/80ZR-17M/C 52P (MRF/ZAPPER-FX) 140/60-R17M/C 63P (MRF/revz)
You can go with FZS tyres.Front Tyre (Full Spec) 100/80-17" 52 P Tubeless Rear Tyre (Full Spec) 130/70-17" 62 P Tubeless
AFAIK, CBR150R comes with TVS tyres as default, not sure though.
If you are having a bumpy ride, it could be that the tyre is overfilled with nitrogen/air. While you mount on the saddle, try gripping the bike with your torso and thighs and keep less pressure on the palms, there will be significant difference in the numbness.Originally posted by Hunterkol View PostMy bike's front end feels a bit weird. The wheel feels loose, while the handlebar is tight. The bike is following the smallest of tracks on the road (tramlining) and is being pushed off the chosen line by road imperfections.
I am having similar issuea as Deebee, my bike is going in for second service now. It feels bumpy even on smooth roads, I have a grip and use an RE riding gloves but, still the vibes numb my palm. It's monsoon now and those who live in Kolkata know that we usually face with scattered clouds and rains. That means highly slippery roads. Eurogrips are holding well. Stock lights and bulbs are useless though in rains.
1. Should I change to Motul 5100 now?
2. The bike is now underpower and gives a choking feedback when moving up from 4k. Any advice?
3. Can't feel rear break anymore, no feedback.
4. Engine noise has increased considerably, no leaks though.
5. Fairing noise and vibes are prominent than ever.
6. The machine ain't moving past 130 kmph anymore.
The odo reads 4645.
Safe Riding Guys!
after all this, if you are still facing the issue then it is better to check the conset.
1. Yes you can, but make sure you flush the old engine oil completely.
2 and 4 and 6 . you might be running lean, get your carburetor checked for the same.
3. Bleed the brakes, it might be due to air stuck in the brake lines.
5. Try fitting double side tapes in between the fairings.
Cheers,
Sanjay
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Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences
Guys my bikes top end has reduced a lot. No matter how much I try pulling the bike doesnt move past 130kmph on a dead straight stretch. I have seen so many get their bikes to around 145. What could be the issue. The bike has done 9500kms and running motul 7100 and last service was done on 7800kms. The air filter was not changed as it was clean. The chain has right tension and the wheels are absolutely free. I have starting issues with the bike. No matter how much I crank up the bike it wont start without opening the throttle a bit. Please help.
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Can you please elaborate the situation in which the top speed run was done ? many factors are to be considered and also many factors play a imp role in the top speed.Originally posted by Anubhav M View PostGuys my bikes top end has reduced a lot. No matter how much I try pulling the bike doesnt move past 130kmph on a dead straight stretch. I have seen so many get their bikes to around 145. What could be the issue. The bike has done 9500kms and running motul 7100 and last service was done on 7800kms. The air filter was not changed as it was clean. The chain has right tension and the wheels are absolutely free. I have starting issues with the bike. No matter how much I crank up the bike it wont start without opening the throttle a bit. Please help.
1. your weight
2. wind blast or tail wind
3. downslope or upslope
4. correct tyre pressure
5. your body posture and many other things.
I do not know how much power the AS200 produces at the top RPM band, so cannot comment on how well it will pull.
For example, I own a CBR and the CBR runs flat post 8/8.5K rpm which is approximately 137/138 kph, after that the bike does not pull hard enough. Does that mean the bike has problem, no way!!!!
IMHO top speed is just a fools way to test the potential of a bike in regards to the performance and it issues. Top speed does not determine that your bike is healthy as a horse or has lots of issues.
If you are so keen on maxing out your bike, try your friends's/colleagues AS200 and then ride yours back to back and then report us.
For the bike having problem in the first crank, can you please tell us the idle RPM of your bike. it should be near around 1.2K rpm, anything below that will have issues in starting the bike. Check your carburetor setting.
Cheers,
SanjayLast edited by sanjaysangar1990; 07-26-2016, 11:04 PM.
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I weigh around 80 kgs and all runs were done on flats no slopes or inclination completely ducked under the visor. Tyre pressure set as company recommended and a healthy chain set with right tension. Hardly any winds.Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View PostCan you please elaborate the situation in which the top speed run was done ? many factors are to be considered and also many factors play a imp role in the top speed.
1. your weight
2. wind blast or tail wind
3. downslope or upslope
4. correct tyre pressure
5. your body posture and many other things.
I do not know how much power the AS200 produces at the top RPM band, so cannot comment on how well it will pull.
For example, I own a CBR and the CBR runs flat post 8/8.5K rpm which is approximately 137/138 kph, after that the bike does not pull hard enough. Does that mean the bike has problem, no way!!!!
IMHO top speed is just a fools way to test the potential of a bike in regards to the performance and it issues. Top speed does not determine that your bike is healthy as a horse or has lots of issues.
If you are so keen on maxing out your bike, try your friends's/colleagues AS200 and then ride yours back to back and then report us.
For the bike having problem in the first crank, can you please tell us the idle RPM of your bike. it should be near around 1.2K rpm, anything below that will have issues in starting the bike. Check your carburetor setting.
Cheers,
Sanjay
Any ways my primary concern is this starting issue. I got my bike tuned from 3 different svc including a ktm svc.
The issue is if i set the idle to 1.5 k on cold start it goes to near 2k when warm. But the starting problem disappears. If i set it to around 1.2 k the bike idles at 1.5 k when warm but initaily I have to give a lot of throttle to start the bike. In this case if idle is too low even the choke does not help.
My bike was set to rich it returned 28 kmpl now its set to slightly lean as per the mechanic so it returns 39kmpl with extremely sane driving.
But the spark plugs side ones I inspected seemed to have blackish color. Dont know what to make of that.
Last edited by Anubhav M; 07-27-2016, 12:46 AM.
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Spark plus look OK, did someone at the SVCC fiddle with the AFR screw ?Originally posted by Anubhav M View PostI weigh around 80 kgs and all runs were done on flats no slopes or inclination completely ducked under the visor. Tyre pressure set as company recommended and a healthy chain set with right tension. Hardly any winds.
Any ways my primary concern is this starting issue. I got my bike tuned from 3 different svc including a ktm svc.
The issue is if i set the idle to 1.5 k on cold start it goes to near 2k when warm. But the starting problem disappears. If i set it to around 1.2 k the bike idles at 1.5 k when warm but initaily I have to give a lot of throttle to start the bike. In this case if idle is too low even the choke does not help.
My bike was set to rich it returned 28 kmpl now its set to slightly lean as per the mechanic so it returns 39kmpl with extremely sane driving.
But the spark plugs side ones I inspected seemed to have blackish color. Dont know what to make of that.
There are 2 screws
1. Engine idle
2. AFR screw
The Engine idle screw should be 3 and half turns anticlockwise.
Cheers,
Sanjay
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Thanks, Sanjay, for the tyre details. I now need to decide between these two for the front (the patterns are different):
Zapper FX (Gixxer/SF)
Zapper FX1 (FZ 2.0)
There is also the Zapper FY2, which is recommended for the NS/AS (standard fitment for non-Eurogrip bikes?). I have no clue how good or bad that one is.Last edited by deebee; 07-28-2016, 06:26 PM.
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All are bias ply, if I am not wrong. and the difference between the tread pattern is pretty much the same.Originally posted by deebee View PostThanks, Sanjay, for the tyre details. I now need to decide between these two for the front (the patterns are different):
Zapper FX (Gixxer/SF)
Zapper FX1 (FZ 2.0)
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There is also the Zapper FY2, which is recommended for the NS/AS (standard fitment for non-Eurogrip bikes?). I have no clue how good or bad that one is.
Ask someone from the gixxer and FZ-S thread.Choice is yours mate.
Cheers,
SanjayLast edited by sanjaysangar1990; 07-28-2016, 09:04 PM.
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Wouldn't going for a 140 section rear impact average? If yes, by how much??? I'm planning to upsize mine from 130 to 140.Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View PostAnd the below is the speed rating for AS 200100/80ZR-17M/C 52P (MRF/ZAPPER-FX) 140/60-R17M/C 63P (MRF/revz)
You can go with FZS tyres.Front Tyre (Full Spec) 100/80-17" 52 P Tubeless Rear Tyre (Full Spec) 130/70-17" 62 P Tubeless
Cheers,
Sanjay
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Go for 140/70 it will increase fe by 1 2 , i have installed 140 70 rear MRF zapper s1 on my ns , mileage gain is negligible but it increases overall height by 2- 3 cmOriginally posted by Vicky_New_Guy View PostWouldn't going for a 140 section rear impact average? If yes, by how much??? I'm planning to upsize mine from 130 to 140.
140/60 will decrease mileageLast edited by vvk1999; 07-29-2016, 12:14 AM.
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Upsizing will have speedo errors + there will be no significant gain in the performance or handling.Originally posted by Vicky_New_Guy View PostWouldn't going for a 140 section rear impact average? If yes, by how much??? I'm planning to upsize mine from 130 to 140.
If you guys really want to exploit the potential then go for MRF revz S 130/70 17. It grips like a leech and has phenomenal performance on both dry and wet. I haven't seen any r15 owner cursing the revz S tyres.
140/60 will increase the rolling resistance and hence mileage will take a toll but not by a huge margin. You can expect near above 35kmpl.
As200 is already a taller bike and by adding 140/70 section you are increasing the seat height.Originally posted by vvk1999 View PostGo for 140/70 it will increase fe by 1 2 , i have installed 140 70 rear MRF zapper s1 on my ns , mileage gain is negligible but it increases overall height by 2- 3 cm
140/60 will decrease mileage
Not worthy, when the mods are just cosmetic and nil performance gains
Cheers,
Sanjay
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Pls Don't get confused. Speedometer is connected to front tyre so it's impossible to get speedo error when u upsize the rear , pls make it clear .Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View PostUpsizing will have speedo errors + there will be no significant gain in the performance or handling.
If you guys really want to exploit the potential then go for MRF revz S 130/70 17. It grips like a leech and has phenomenal performance on both dry and wet. I haven't seen any r15 owner cursing the revz S tyres.
140/60 will increase the rolling resistance and hence mileage will take a toll but not by a huge margin. You can expect near above 35kmpl.
As200 is already a taller bike and by adding 140/70 section you are increasing the seat height.
Not worthy, when the mods are just cosmetic and nil performance gains
Cheers,
Sanjay
Revz s 130 70 is a bad performer with respect to tyre life , puncture resistance etc . In real world increased road contact (for 140/70) will give more stability than any 130 tyre .
After all the choice is owner's.
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I never knew, the new gen pulsar still takes reading from the front wheel. I thought it works on sensors. Anyways, mistake accepted.Originally posted by vvk1999 View PostPls Don't get confused. Speedometer is connected to front tyre so it's impossible to get speedo error when u upsize the rear , pls make it clear .
Revz s 130 70 is a bad performer with respect to tyre life , puncture resistance etc . In real world increased road contact (for 140/70) will give more stability than any 130 tyre .
After all the choice is owner's.
Revz S isn't a bad performer, you can expect atleast 15-17k kms on those softer and grippier radials. 15-17k ain't a bad number.
If you want more life try hard compound tyres it will offer you more life lesser punctures, but it will scare the shit out of you under hard braking and if you try to lean more
Cheers,
Sanjay
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I agree. I'd rather have more grip and lower life from a soft compound tyre than scary braking and cornering from a harder compound - I need a tyre I can trust. 15k km is awesome - I'll be happy with 10-12k.Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View PostRevz S isn't a bad performer, you can expect atleast 15-17k kms on those softer and grippier radials. 15-17k ain't a bad number.
If you want more life try hard compound tyres it will offer you more life lesser punctures, but it will scare the shit out of you under hard braking and if you try to lean more
I just need some degree of puncture resistance - roads here in Kolkata are horrid and can ruin a very soft tyre. My friend used to suffer at least 1-2 punctures every month with the Metzelers on his 390 Duke. Terrific grip, though
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On the other hand, I'm planning a ride through the Silk Route (Sikkim) in late November. The Zapper FX and Revz-S aren't really suited to that kind of terrain (mud, rocks, maybe snow and black ice).
Are there any dual-purpose tyres available in India in the AS200's sizes? I'm not considering down/upsizing at all.
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I think no indian manufactured bike have the speedometer connected somewhere other than front wheel.Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View PostI never knew, the new gen pulsar still takes reading from the front wheel. I thought it works on sensors. Anyways, mistake accepted.
Cheers,
Sanjay
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