Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

[prasad g]

Bro commuting 16kms per day...no problem..... Let the console show the required kms compleated to service, then only yo service. Thats it, theres no hurry. If yo wud ask me, i wud say go for sunday breakfast rides, long rides touring with frnds. This helps your bike to unlock its engine potential, compleate kms and also to detect problems if rises (not a bad thing) and for your relaxation too. So yo see 16 km/day is like petting the bike. Go get the beast out.....

Oh the days yo asked.....about that...... the svc guys says 1st sv: 500-1000 kms or 30 days....... now they just assume that you wud definitely compleate minimum 500 kms within 30 days..... or 500-1000 kms to get service..... thats it.... better follow your bike console kms reading......How much kms yo compleated?

completed 1290, as u said i gone for long drives to cover max km before service. can i go for fully synthetic oil after 1600 km as it may give smooth rides.

I'm experiencing the same grunt everytime I cross 4k RPM. I can't say till where (which RPM) it lasts since I upshift latest by 4.5k RPM itself. But no matter how lightly I twist the throttle, the grunt is always there. Is this normal?

ok so many people are facing same issue. and we should find some way to clear it.

I'm experiencing the same grunt everytime I cross 4k RPM. I can't say till where (which RPM) it lasts since I upshift latest by 4.5k RPM itself. But no matter how lightly I twist the throttle, the grunt is always there. Is this normal?

u said u upshuft at early 4.5k rpm so how much mileage u getting and so far how many km you covered?

[joelgreen]

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ok so many people are facing same issue. and we should find some way to clear it.

u said u upshuft at early 4.5k rpm so how much mileage u getting and so far how many km you covered?

I wonder if that grunt is an issue or simply an engine characteristic. If I slightly increase the throttle by say, 20% (still restricting upshifts to a maximum of 4.5k RPM), the grunt comes in at around 3-3.5k RPM itself. I have a feeling this is somewhere related to engine knocking!

I have only filled up the tank once, shall post an update here when I refuel.

[presidency]

I wonder if that grunt is an issue or simply an engine characteristic. If I slightly increase the throttle by say, 20% (still restricting upshifts to a maximum of 4.5k RPM), the grunt comes in at around 3-3.5k RPM itself. I have a feeling this is somewhere related to engine knocking!

I have only filled up the tank once, shall post an update here when I refuel.

If yo really hav a prob in bike....get a frnd who also owns a gixxer who doesnt face this prob and let him ride ur bike. Only then you can see if theres any wrong with yours.....

Anyone from kolkata?

[prasad g]

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If yo really hav a prob in bike....get a frnd who also owns a gixxer who doesnt face this prob and let him ride ur bike. Only then you can see if theres any wrong with yours.....

Anyone from kolkata?

good idea any one from hyderabad, madhapur to check our bikes ?

[MotoBlizzard]

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I wonder if that grunt is an issue or simply an engine characteristic. If I slightly increase the throttle by say, 20% (still restricting upshifts to a maximum of 4.5k RPM), the grunt comes in at around 3-3.5k RPM itself. I have a feeling this is somewhere related to engine knocking!

I have only filled up the tank once, shall post an update here when I refuel.

The manual says to keep RPM below 4.5k for the first 800kms. You set the shift light to 5k. Upshift between 4.5k and 5k. Downshift at 3k. The grunt you hear is called Engine Lugging. Not something you are supposed to do under normal operation but in the Break-in period you have to be pretty precise with the upshift and downshift range to prevent that lugging. I opted for hard break-in method so I did not face that issue.

completed 1290, as u said i gone for long drives to cover max km before service. can i go for fully synthetic oil after 1600 km as it may give smooth rides.

ok so many people are facing same issue. and we should find some way to clear it.

u said u upshuft at early 4.5k rpm so how much mileage u getting and so far how many km you covered?

The Idemitsu engine oil that the SVC uses by default is apparently Fully Synthetic. I dont believe it not even one bit. Using full synthetic oil for a 150cc engine is pretty pointless. Using even semi synthetic is pointless as well but some people I talked with reported slight improvement in gear shifting smoothness. If you want to switch to a proper full synthetic oil from say a Brand like Motul, do it at your 3rd service.

Its not that many people are facing the same issue, many people dont understand what the grunting is. Its just engine lugging.

Fuel mileage is not something you should be concerned about while in the break-in period. Finish your second service by which point your RPM restrictions will be over and measure your fuel mileage after that

[prasad g]

Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

The manual says to keep RPM below 4.5k for the first 800kms. You set the shift light to 5k. Upshift between 4.5k and 5k. Downshift at 3k. The grunt you hear is called Engine Lugging. Not something you are supposed to do under normal operation but in the Break-in period you have to be pretty precise with the upshift and downshift range to prevent that lugging. I opted for hard break-in method so I did not face that issue.



The Idemitsu engine oil that the SVC uses by default is apparently Fully Synthetic. I dont believe it not even one bit. Using full synthetic oil for a 150cc engine is pretty pointless. Using even semi synthetic is pointless as well but some people I talked with reported slight improvement in gear shifting smoothness. If you want to switch to a proper full synthetic oil from say a Brand like Motul, do it at your 3rd service.

Its not that many people are facing the same issue, many people dont understand what the grunting is. Its just engine lugging.

Fuel mileage is not something you should be concerned about while in the break-in period. Finish your second service by which point your RPM restrictions will be over and measure your fuel mileage after that

ok, so if it is lugging what can be done to solve this. is my engine dsmaged because of this?

[presidency]

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I guess its due to uneven revving and gear shifting. Whats your shifting style now?
To be honest..... I dont know whats lugging.... Haven't faced anything .... May be its ur shifting style which needs to be in proper..........let see wat others hav to say.

[prasad g]

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I guess its due to uneven revving and gear shifting. Whats your shifting style now?
To be honest..... I dont know whats lugging.... Haven't faced anything .... May be its ur shifting style which needs to be in proper..........let see wat others hav to say.

lets see what others say. i worried if my bike engine damaged. if any thing can be done to fix this. i upshift around 3500 rpm as it starts rough sound after that.

[Iam_Hoodi_CBR]

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I really dont kniw about this engine lugging, what is this, what can be done to solve this engine lugging issue ?

To answer your question is simple terms, the engine is kind of unable to pull the load(the bike with rider and sometimes with pillion) in the given rpm.

This mostly happens if the rpm is low for the engine to pull it efficiently, and during engine break-in this should be really avoided.

Solution for this is to up-shift the gear at slightly higher revs, consider the below eg.

say the engine is lugging at 3500 rpm in 3rd gear

you up-shift from 2nd to 3rd gear at say 4000 rpm
now you will be riding the bike in 3rd gear at approx 3000-3500 rpm(in the lugging rage)

solution
you up-shift from 2nd to 3rd gear at say 4500 rpm
now you will be riding the bike in 3rd gear at approx 3500-4000 rpm(where the engine pulls the load easily without lugging)

But always remember lugging is not at all good for the engine and for especially new one.

Ram

[presidency]

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lets see what others say. i worried if my bike engine damaged. if any thing can be done to fix this. i upshift around 3500 rpm as it starts rough sound after that.

During break-in: i maintain 4k rpm
1st to 2nd at 16 kmph
2nd to 3rd at 26
3rd to 4th at 40
4th to 5th at 50
After 5th i maintained within 50-65 kmph speed keepin the rpm limit in mind too. Now after break-in you ll eventually adjust speed wrt rpm from your own.... Now downshifting timing is also important. Early and late shift should be avoided. Tips: before purchase, i used to lean the shifting, braking and filtering by being a pillion on my frnd bike and makin tours and also used to mimic the moves and rules of the fnds bike from behind on my bike on highways to learn.

[prasad g]

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To answer your question is simple terms, the engine is kind of unable to pull the load(the bike with rider and sometimes with pillion) in the given rpm.

This mostly happens if the rpm is low for the engine to pull it efficiently, and during engine break-in this should be really avoided.

Solution for this is to up-shift the gear at slightly higher revs, consider the below eg.

say the engine is lugging at 3500 rpm in 3rd gear

you up-shift from 2nd to 3rd gear at say 4000 rpm
now you will be riding the bike in 3rd gear at approx 3000-3500 rpm(in the lugging rage)

solution
you up-shift from 2nd to 3rd gear at say 4500 rpm
now you will be riding the bike in 3rd gear at approx 3500-4000 rpm(where the engine pulls the load easily without lugging)

But always remember lugging is not at all good for the engine and for especially new one.

Ram

so will it be back to normal after following the method or its already late and should i need to adjust to this. my second service is pending and i have 60 days time before 2nd service.

[Iam_Hoodi_CBR]

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so will it be back to normal after following the method or its already late and should i need to adjust to this. my second service is pending and i have 60 days time before 2nd service.

You just have to maintain the rpm a little higher than you have normally had till now. Just don't lug the engine again it should be fine .

Ram

[prasad g]

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During break-in: i maintain 4k rpm
1st to 2nd at 16 kmph
2nd to 3rd at 26
3rd to 4th at 40
4th to 5th at 50
After 5th i maintained within 50-65 kmph speed keepin the rpm limit in mind too. Now after break-in you ll eventually adjust speed wrt rpm from your own.... Now downshifting timing is also important. Early and late shift should be avoided. Tips: before purchase, i used to lean the shifting, braking and filtering by being a pillion on my frnd bike and makin tours and also used to mimic the moves and rules of the fnds bike from behind on my bike on highways to learn.

i should have done some research first but dont know how many more theories are there to be aware of.

[MotoBlizzard]

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To answer your question is simple terms, the engine is kind of unable to pull the load(the bike with rider and sometimes with pillion) in the given rpm.

This mostly happens if the rpm is low for the engine to pull it efficiently, and during engine break-in this should be really avoided.

Solution for this is to up-shift the gear at slightly higher revs, consider the below eg.

say the engine is lugging at 3500 rpm in 3rd gear

you up-shift from 2nd to 3rd gear at say 4000 rpm
now you will be riding the bike in 3rd gear at approx 3000-3500 rpm(in the lugging rage)

solution
you up-shift from 2nd to 3rd gear at say 4500 rpm
now you will be riding the bike in 3rd gear at approx 3500-4000 rpm(where the engine pulls the load easily without lugging)

But always remember lugging is not at all good for the engine and for especially new one.

Ram

Bingo! Perfectly on point!

During break-in: i maintain 4k rpm
1st to 2nd at 16 kmph
2nd to 3rd at 26
3rd to 4th at 40
4th to 5th at 50
After 5th i maintained within 50-65 kmph speed keepin the rpm limit in mind too.

Using the speedometer as a reference to change gears is the most incorrect way to go about changing gears. Every bike will have a Speedo error which will be different from each other.

so will it be back to normal after following the method or its already late and should i need to adjust to this. my second service is pending and i have 60 days time before 2nd service.

Back to normal? Buddy, nothing is wrong with your bike as of now. Just dont upshift too early or downshift too late and you will be fine. Follow what CBR said above. Increase the rev slightly and the grunting will disappear. Dont panic nothing will go wrong even if you lug the engine till your break-in period is over. Just dont let it happen too often.

[Iam_Hoodi_CBR]

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i should have done some research first but dont know how many more theories are there to be aware of.

Just forgot about those theories and ride the bike in which both you are the bike are comfortable, you can learn all other things on the way.

Ram