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  • Originally posted by sam9s View Post
    wow...this thread has grown like a Plague!...lol Incase people dont know I am the thread owner.....Thought to update a few things as I have completed 14000KM on the bike.

    1. the 3500 Vibs still there.
    2. 5,6 Services completed and NO absolute no complains what so ever, infact the service people ring me personally when the time for service comes (they do it every customer)
    3. Ride smoothness, comfort, gear shift is as smooth as it initially was.
    4. No part(electrical, mechanical) failing. Not even clutch wire. i,e no maintained cost uptill now
    5. No Tank rusting (for me atleast)
    6. Brake shoe had to be changed
    7. No dimness or any artifact in the Console Backlit (this happenes a lot in pulers)

    Apart from this, not even a single issue (how so ever small) faced till now.

    Any other specific questions people down here wanna ask that comes to their mind after completion of 14000KM.....I am all ears.....

    good to see people enjoying this bike......

    Cheers..
    Sammy
    Hey Sam,
    Good to see you back here bro. So how is your Mom's health??

    Good to hear that you are enjoying your ride without any problems.

    Keep riding

    Vishal

    Originally posted by Anand_Metallica View Post
    Yeah will leave all of my work college etc for tommow and visit the service centre !! is it okay if i leave my bike there and go incase they say it wil take 2-3 hours ..are those guys trust worthy coz i have had bad experiences with my older discover ..the mechanics have gone for rides and bought goods etc on my bike :\ !
    Anand,
    The test ride bike was not new & the engine running-in was already done ,so the gear shifts were smooth & you enjoyed the ride.

    You have got a new bike which needs engine breakin or running-in to be done.The metal parts are new & hence it will take some time for them to settle.This is applicable to all the vehicles & not just restricted to bikes.The gear shifts will be hard at first but once you start crunching miles your engine will be smooth & gear shifts will alse be smooth. Keep some patience buddy & enjoy the breakin period.Use the toe shifter to downshift & the heel shifter to upshift,it will be more easy than using the toe shift for upshifting as you must have done in Discover.

    My piece of advice,NEVER leave your bike at the service centre,sit there & see what they do to your bike .

    HAPPY RIDING.

    Vishal

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    • Originally posted by Anupdas View Post
      Thanks man, earlier when i was goin trough this thread i saw lot of post regarding tanks getting rusted. Do you have any idea what they meant by that?


      Hi Anupdas,

      Rusting of the tank was an issue in the very first batch of GS. If u come across a GS from the old batch you can see small patches of rust inside the tank and there were many other parts with this same problem. Suzuki has taken care of it in the newer lot. so nothin to worry about it. If you do find any rusted part (which would be rare) just contact the suzuki SC. They will be happy to replace it for you.
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      • Originally posted by spacetech View Post
        Hi Anupdas,

        Rusting of the tank was an issue in the very first batch of GS. If u come across a GS from the old batch you can see small patches of rust inside the tank and there were many other parts with this same problem. Suzuki has taken care of it in the newer lot. so nothin to worry about it. If you do find any rusted part (which would be rare) just contact the suzuki SC. They will be happy to replace it for you.
        Last day when i opened the lid at a gas station i saw a little tint of rust on the brim of the tank, thats why i asked the question. i checked the inside with a torch then, the rust is only there. One of my friends who owns a unicorn said that one day his bike didnt start even after applying choke. The service centre guys told that since he was using different kinds of petrol ( the very first petrol pump after reserve since he rides a lot) has caused rusting in the tank and asked him not to use speed, IBP & reliance. What do you think of this matter?
        Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck.........

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        • Originally posted by animeher View Post

          Kicking 4-5 times on cold start is a good practice to follow.
          why kicking 4-5 times??? the company gave self start for what???

          if kick is that imp, then imagine about p220, fz, karizma etc

          it is a stupid reason one would give that starting bike in cold will reduce ur battery life and starter motor life. this is not true.

          the battery life and starter life would be reduced only when u crank for continuously and ultimately the batt would drain.

          on a cold morning , open the choke turn on the ignition wait for 5 sec, press the starter , engine would spring into life instantly. pull thr choke back and ur ready to go.
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          • Originally posted by Anupdas View Post
            Last day when i opened the lid at a gas station i saw a little tint of rust on the brim of the tank, thats why i asked the question. i checked the inside with a torch then, the rust is only there. One of my friends who owns a unicorn said that one day his bike didnt start even after applying choke. The service centre guys told that since he was using different kinds of petrol ( the very first petrol pump after reserve since he rides a lot) has caused rusting in the tank and asked him not to use speed, IBP & reliance. What do you think of this matter?

            Hi Anup,

            I don't think using high octane petrol is a good idea for a new bike. I always use normal petrol. You should also fill up the tank atleast 80% once in a while. If you think that fuel from a particular gas station is not giving you what is expected u can always change, and its much easier if it is normal petrol.
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            • My bikes digital console is vibrating and my friend (p180) said its a lil too much for a new bike. His bike has got the same problem but it started only after a year or so.
              Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck.........

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              • Originally posted by anmol_1990 View Post
                if kick is that imp, then imagine about p220, fz, karizma etc

                it is a stupid reason one would give that starting bike in cold will reduce ur battery life and starter motor life. this is not true.

                the battery life and starter life would be reduced only when u crank for continuously and ultimately the batt would drain.
                Trust me, it has not gotten anything to do with the battery.

                I was talking about specifically kicking when the engine is OFF, simultaneously pressing and releasing the clutch. If you see splendor, passion etc, the engines are horizontal, so engine oil is already in there. In our bikes, it has to rise up to the engine. So by doing this kicking, the oil circulates well inside, thus reducing the friction and increasing the efficiency of engine.

                As to why some others don't have them, well, no idea!

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                • Originally posted by Anupdas View Post
                  My bikes digital console is vibrating and my friend (p180) said its a lil too much for a new bike. His bike has got the same problem but it started only after a year or so.
                  Its pretty normal. even i used to notice it a lot when my bike was new.
                  The service centre people said they can tighten it if needed, but the parts around speedo and fairing are plastic, and may break faster if kept too tight due to stress.


                  Originally posted by animeher View Post
                  Trust me, it has not gotten anything to do with the battery.

                  I was talking about specifically kicking when the engine is OFF, simultaneously pressing and releasing the clutch. If you see splendor, passion etc, the engines are horizontal, so engine oil is already in there. In our bikes, it has to rise up to the engine. So by doing this kicking, the oil circulates well inside, thus reducing the friction and increasing the efficiency of engine.

                  As to why some others don't have them, well, no idea!
                  Hey, since you're discussing about kick vs button for morning starting, i had another point.
                  When we kick start the bike, the force created initially makes the piston move at an rpm higher than idle(1.5k) (i feel so because with kick, the initial engine sound seems bit louder than usual idle sound, but i dont think the tacho can pick up the initial rev so quickly so it may not show on tacho).

                  But with electric start there is no initial high revving
                  (again just an observation based on engine sound).

                  Considering this, wouldnt it be more harmful to kick 5 times without oil circulation in the mornings ?

                  Another thing i feel is, with electric start, the bike directly reaches its idle rpm, and 1500rpm will cause more/faster oil splashing compared to 5 kicks and lubrication will be more effective.

                  p.s this is just what i feel, feel free to correct me or suggest any better points.

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                  • The RPM is not necessarily higher with kick start. The point of morning kicks is only to circulate oil well on a stopped engine. Once it is started and all the petrol and oil start circulating in the engine, you have no chance of further refining the friction of the liquids with the solids. The only chance you have is before starting the engine, hence the ritual.

                    I read this somewhere, where the guy with a ZMA used to follow this and getting consistently good mileage. That's why i started following it too.

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                    • Originally posted by animeher View Post
                      Trust me, it has not gotten anything to do with the battery.

                      I was talking about specifically kicking when the engine is OFF, simultaneously pressing and releasing the clutch. If you see splendor, passion etc, the engines are horizontal, so engine oil is already in there. In our bikes, it has to rise up to the engine. So by doing this kicking, the oil circulates well inside, thus reducing the friction and increasing the efficiency of engine.

                      As to why some others don't have them, well, no idea!
                      +1

                      That is a good habit of kicking the bike with Ignition off for 2-3 times before starting the engine.. it helps circulate the oil to all parts of engine, also let it idle for say 1mnt before you start the ride..
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                      • Have anyone considered changing the crash guard of GS as its too small. I would prefer to have one like Hunk which justifies the name of crash guard.
                        Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck.........

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                        • Originally posted by felix.ragav View Post
                          Edit: Congrats Sam. yes admit that this thread has gone a long way since you started it. Looks like you've created a domino effect for suzuki through the web. Send suzuki a link to this thread and demand some margin :P
                          ^_^
                          Yep I agree it does look it has created some Domino effect, couple of professional sites have approched me to publish my review on their site, lets see if that happenes.

                          Originally posted by Anupdas View Post
                          Hiii Sam,
                          I just bought one last week, already done some 400 km with it. Can you commend on when to shift the gears. My friends said me to ride in a constant speed but here on xBHP everyone is saying to ride in variable engine speed to prevent heating. Which is the best practice. Once you mentioned about having to kick 4-5 times on cold start, is it ok now.
                          Never ride on a constant speed (I mean for a long), about the kick start, Well its better now, but I still would put the starting efficiency of Hero Honda bike ahead of Suzuki. I do have to kick twice sometimes thrice as well to get the engine running in this cold weather. This never happened with my Ambition throughout my 7 years of ownership.

                          Originally posted by anmol_1990 View Post
                          why kicking 4-5 times??? the company gave self start for what???
                          if kick is that imp, then imagine about p220, fz, karizma etc
                          it is a stupid reason one would give that starting bike in cold will reduce ur battery life and starter motor life. this is not true.
                          the battery life and starter life would be reduced only when u crank for continuously and ultimately the batt would drain.
                          on a cold morning , open the choke turn on the ignition wait for 5 sec, press the starter , engine would spring into life instantly. pull thr choke back and ur ready to go.
                          I differ on that, Bike self should never be used for a cold start for a CRAB operated bike, its difference for MPFI. This is even authticated by the company's own bike's manual....

                          Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
                          Hey Sam,
                          Good to see you back here bro. So how is your Mom's health??
                          Good to hear that you are enjoying your ride without any problems.
                          Keep riding
                          Vishal
                          Good to see you remembered, but unfortunately mom expired, she could not cope up with the detoriating health, anyway life has to move on.....
                          Last edited by sam9s; 01-15-2010, 10:53 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by sam9s View Post
                            Good to see you remembered, but unfortunately mom expired, she could not cope up with the detoriating health, anyway life has to move on.....
                            SORRY to hear that bro.My condolences to you & your family.

                            Yes you rightly said LIFE HAS TO MOVE ON....

                            Keep riding & posting.


                            Vishal

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                            • Thats very sad to hear, deepest condolence to you and your family. It was your review which gave me confidence on my ride. And seeing your mentality I have become a fan of yours.....
                              Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck.........

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                              • Originally posted by sam9s View Post
                                Good to see you remembered, but unfortunately mom expired, she could not cope up with the detoriating health, anyway life has to move on.....

                                Condolences on the Sad Demise, May God Almighhty give you and your family the strength to go through this unfortunate time.
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