Whoa too much to understand in one go...
Dr is quoting in AWG and Mr.Vishnu in SWG used as standard here.
While trying to put in more poles in same dia of stator, the poles will become smaller...since voltage in poles are dependent on induced EMF won't this actually reduce it...since the rotor magnet will be able to excite smaller voltage due to less magnetic induction in smaller poles....how is it compensated ,and you get more voltage and current ...

This must be a big joke in small way

As of now I just feel,
New
1.100cc
2.250cc

Updated or redesigned
1.150cc
2.scooter

CBU
1.Bking GSX1300
2.Gladius

Thats practical........and possible, the Bking should be here by year end.
Suzuki is a hit in the CBU market, no Superbiker groups of any city is complete without a Hayabusa or a GSX1000R and the Bandit is the new favorite for mature ecstatic bikers.

All other products like GSX250R(not even conceptualized to market ),GSX600R,GSX750R and Skydrive can be rumored trash........even I do not expect them to be here any soon or at all.

Why ???? do they plan to exit India again ?????

Thou too, Brutus was the first words came in to my mind but I am not using it here. If you see those words here, it is a typing mistake.

Sir, I am not a walking encyclopedia as you. A little more time is needed to answer it. I am trying to rewind the 8 pole coil of our GS and retain the stock rr as it seems the Access’s 12 pole is not a direct fit to old 2009 batch GSs. What I need is a fitting of 55/60 watt bulb; not an HID.

And I have taken a strong decision to not believe any theories. All theories are stupid.

See, before Darwin, everything was created. In 1858 CE, he put forward the theory of evolution and natural selection. After that, everything is evolved and naturally selected; not created. The creation stopped at the moment he discovered this theory. But did any of us except me accept that theory?

(Some of my friends in the town are mentioning their fathers as “Mother f******. They may be strong supporters of this theory who know how they are evolved from our great, great grandfather).

I was believing that this theory is correct, but considering the fact that I haven’t met any monkey coming out the forest as a man and say ‘hallo’ while I travel through the roads in it, have decided to reconsider the genuineness of it.

As being not an electric engineer but a UP school dropout, I tried to consult an EE under graduate working as AE or SE in the electricity board of an Indian state. He is even able to give any information about the transformers used in the Three Gorges hydroelectric dam but knows nothing about the difference this 12 pole stator coil makes.

Next consultation was with a ME student. He can say anything about the mechanics of this universe but not about these 12 poles.

Then I decided to check the Access 125s and new GSs using these poles and found that it makes no difference in the overall performance of the vehicles and its headlights.

So this is my strong decision: never believe in theories.

Till we meet again… Bye.

I think i am misunderstood here again...I am not a back stabber to be called " et to Brute then falls Caesar"..I am looking for answers ,as this is how i learn, from people with knowledge.i am still searching for a possible explanation for all the theories and cause and effect posted here...
I will refrain from raising any queries here , as I do not intend to either raise an issue or cause unpleasantness.
Good luck and God's blessing to all.

Darwin theory "Evolution by Natural selection" is widely accepted in scientific community.

Great discoveries were made by asking right questions at the right time. Concepts were turned into theories after getting right and logical answers to those questions. Theories were practiced in the subsequent time.

hahahahahaha

We have Caesar here......Vishnukmd
We have Brutus here.......Psr

We have Mark Antony here.......... Myself !!!!

Ok Vishnu feels that 12 poles and 7 poles do not make any difference on stock wiring and rectifier................I am saying that too,totally agree.

But with way thicker rewinding per pole so much so that the 12 pole stator used up approximately 175 feet of 21 Gauge copper wire and that too on a single big phase........the frequency of brushing by the magnetor assay does come to matter with superb electrical charge coming up even in low rpms of rotation..........(if I have to explain in details I would have to leave the performance modification ongoing for my GS and use that spare time to open my physics book,do complex maths and come up with electromagnetics but I am not willing to do that. !!!!!)

It is very simple, it is all about frequency here, a fat thick low number of poles coil cannot assume the same frequency of charging through electromagnetic assay as a thick high number of poles coil,no matter what.

The old batch stator and the new batch stator are both of the same nature on the stock dual phase AC/DC GS.........but things change drastically on the single phase full DC GS.

I can leave HID and leds on for fifteen minutes and honk horns without engine on and drain the battery as I wish.Then the battery would hardly take a minute,(on starting the engine and keeping it at idle), to be back to the charge levels it was in-fifteen minutes earlier.

Even our stock reflector actually helps in producing a very wide spread beam.....but it is useless on the stock settings of lamp and electricals and all GS owners suffers from night blindness while riding at night.But again with updated electronics and powerful lamp, the true potential of our headlight assay comes to the fore.

So the potential of a better system on stock settings cannot be understood that easy.

Again I am not questioning the ability of stock settings.....but just answering the potential of the components used in stock settings.

You forgot about Gsx750 though.....and also the Bking....
and a new GS150r/180r/slingshot 150....
I am saying this because Suzuki advertised majority of chunk here stating "The world rides on Suzuki now India will"

@all....guys I am fed up of reading such big posts and theories I hate them since my childhood........Though they are very informative still I feel sleepy....

Found this piece of info on the net.. thought of sharing with all gspians here..
Im disappointed with the upgrade..I was expecting more from suzuki!!

2012 Suzuki GS150R facelift spied

Mileage of GS.

Just now did a mileage test with 300 ml of petrol through the town road I use often. No bumper to bumper riding but moderately heavy traffic (deserted NHs are not here) and a riding of about 1.5 kms through gravel road, taken as a deviation.

Used all the gears as in a usual riding and 4 stops and 5 startings including the initial one.

Fuel used: 300 ml.

Speed: Limited to a maximum of 65 kmh. Tried to maintain a constant speed of 60-65 kmh.

Gear shifting: Around 2.5 k as usual.

Riding style: usual riding without any effort to get more mileage.

Mode: What mode?

Distance covered: 20.5 kms. (Above 20.4 kms. Taken as 20.5)

Mileage: 68.33 kml.

Riders: Single.

Oil in the bike: 1000 kms old 15W-40 Castrol Power 1 SS.

Spark plug: Iridium (NGK CR7HIX).

Pre-preparations: Tyre pressure increased to 28-35 psi instead of normal 28-33 at the sc. Nothing else.

Next time I shall record a video and upload it. Fitting the camera is an issue. Mine is an ordinary one; not a video camera.

As none of you are congratulating me, I am doing it myself.

That's very inspiring Vishnu

I envy you brother!!
Let me congratulate you on achieving this figure again and again
Pls give some time to the fellow Gspians to digest this fact then u will be bombarded with wishes (and few questions too).

Tyre pressure recommended by SVC is 25 - 33 right?( i do not have the manual right now but just trying to recall)

Yes, according to manual tyre pressures are 25-33. But i think it is good to have +2 to the manual .

Congrats Vishnu.... getting superb mileage

in PSI unit
it's 25f/30r for single and 25f/33r with a pillion!

Higher pressure:
-> less tire contact to ground hence skidding risks at times
-> more mileage

Lower pressure:
-> vice versa

Mine
26f/36r . i.e. default settings at any Petrol pump.

Show me the video and mail me your address please.........I would send you a big cake.........just congratulation would not be justified for you Vishnu....trust me,I really appreciate your efforts for proving that mileage !!!!