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  • [QUOTE=vishnukmd;658910]The second service is recommended at 3500-4000 kms or 60 days after the 1st service. The subsequent services are in every 2000 kms or 50 days after the previous one.

    The companies instruction is to change the oil in every alternative services i.e., in every 4000 kms and the filter in every alternative oil changes i.e., in every 8000 kms.

    It is true that the oil need not be changed within 4 k kms but most of us are replacing it and filter in every 2000-2500 kms. (My first oil change was at 946 kms and the next was after 2805 kms at 3758 kms on odometer).



    The usual servicing is washing the bike with the cheapest shampoo or soap solution, replacing the oil if needed and pouring a few drops of oil on the chain and nothing else.

    I too favor the frequent replacement of oil and filter though its benefit is not proved yet. Buy the oil you like from a trustable vendor, filter from the sc and change it yourself. That is the best way.

    For the sake of warranty, do a nominal servicing without washing and oil change at the sc.
    Thanks Vishnu, the reason I asked this is because during my first service the service center guy asked me to keep changing the engine oil every 2000km .So was a bit confused whether to follow the manual or the authorized sc guy .

    Also should I be worried about the average that I am getting now or will it get better in time??
    Now the average is 42-45 .

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    • Originally posted by ashoka_bnglr View Post
      Thanks Vishnu, the reason I asked this is because during my first service the service center guy asked me to keep changing the engine oil every 2000km .So was a bit confused whether to follow the manual or the authorized sc guy .

      Also should I be worried about the average that I am getting now or will it get better in time??
      Now the average is 42-45 .

      Well there is nothing wrong with changing oil in 2000 km intervals. Have a look at the oil before you change it. If the level is not too low and if colors and thickness is to an acceptable limit then there is no need to change it.

      that' s the same average that i am getting too..
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      • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post

        Shhhh. Rama is hearing! Are you ready to post a video? If not, keep mum.

        But, personally I am against doing the self carb tuning.


        This need to be verified. I have decided to check the mileage again after a few days. I shall check, shifting the gear at around 4.5 k.
        Ok.. will upload video soon..
        tell me what things to be recorded while making video ???

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        • Not just suzuki, all car manufacturers including maruthi suzuki, tata, hyundai, mahendra, etc., and bike makers like honda, herohonda, yamaha, bajaj, TVS, etc., source non-critical parts from local vendors such as Lumax, Brakes India, Sundaram fastners, Automotiveaxles, Bosch, etc. Thats why you might find bolts with TVS name on pulsars. Herohonda and honda used to source from vendors that are run by hero's munjal family members. Honda was not happy about these vendors due to quality issues, but still were forced to continue to source from those vendors due to hero's pressure. That is how the auto industry works. Only some companies with large volumes can force vendors to give better quality parts, as they have multiple vendors for same parts.

          Coming to the new Gs150r. The tyres on the white bike in the photos look worn though; I hope this is not a hoax and truly a new gs150r's pictures. The absence of saree guard and crash guard indicates it is a new bike.

          Well, i had speculated in one of my old posts here about new colors, possibly white and copper color. So, now the white is here. I had also mentioned about rear disk brake. From the photos, there is no rear disk brake. The new headlight definitely looks a lot more aggressive. Also, the front shock absorbers are now black in color, not grey, and there is no rubber cladding on the front shock absorbers. As Mach50 indicated, there is also a new more powerful coil with more poles in the current model of gs150r. So, all in all, i its not just a cosmetic upgrade.

          All said, the suzuki gs150r, even in its current form, is definitely a good bike. But I hope they managed to reduce weight a bit in the new one. That would make the Gs150r leaner and meaner.
          Last edited by antonysg; 06-28-2011, 03:30 PM. Reason: spelling

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          • @ VISHNU

            Hi,

            Firstly i really appreciate the time and effort you took to advice me about the best way to ride to get optimum mileage. I tried your tested methods but it is very unfortunate that it didnt work as i expected it to.

            I recently had a trip of 220 km on highways(say 160 on highway,rest would be city type roads.)

            got an avg of 46 kmpl..now this may not be entirely accurate but _+2 kms would be reasonable. This is however still less compared to your bike.

            I drive exactly how you told me to drive.

            what may be wrong..
            KM

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            • [QUOTE=ashoka_bnglr;658923]
              Also should I be worried about the average that I am getting now or will it get better in time??
              Now the average is 42-45

              I am not sure about it.

              Originally posted by Jayantnarangkar View Post
              Ok.. will upload video soon..
              tell me what things to be recorded while making video ???

              I am not the one needing it. I am getting a good mileage and it is making all this fuss.

              Originally posted by antonysg View Post
              As Mach50 indicated, there is also a new more powerful coil with more poles in the current model of gs150r. So, all in all, i its not just a cosmetic upgrade.

              The coil you mentioned is of Access 125; not new. Some suspect that it is more powerful, but not and is not a direct fit to old batches GS. But all the new GSs are fitted with this coil but no noticeable gain.

              The rr used in the new bikes is the same old CA series. As you know, changing or rewinding the coil alone cannot give more voltage or current.
              That is why we ask to rewind the coil and replace the rr with a better one like that of Ape or Avenger. (Ape’s rr is not a direct fit).



              The 12 pole coil.
              Originally posted by KIRTIMANNAN View Post
              got an avg of 46 kmpl..now this may not be entirely accurate but _+2 kms would be reasonable. This is however still less compared to your bike.

              I drive exactly how you told me to drive.

              what may be wrong..

              What I have asked you to do is the universally accepted practices for better mileage. There was nothing new or nothing added by me.
              I am riding my bike in that style and get a nice mileage.

              I have got 4643 kms with 71 litres of fuel from 6/11/2010 to 4/2/2011. It is 65.39 kml. I am to check it again with a jar and shall post the result here after that.

              Please note, I have no personal interest in Suzuki’s sales and exaggerating GS’s mileage is not my business. See, I have no interest in the discussion about any other product of them, including Fiero, which I own.

              None of you know who I am and where I am living and there is not the least possibility of a getting together of ours. Then what am I to get by exaggerating the mileage of my bike?

              Or do you think I am among those who like to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others as Jesus said?
              Last edited by vishnukmd; 06-28-2011, 05:00 PM.

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              • HA HA...there is no such belief vishnu..i am merely seeking advice from a senior in this thread..i dont blame anyone for lesser mileage compared to you..i just want whats good for my bike..and you seem to have some knowledge about the bike so i ask...i am not accusing you of anything..and i am not mocking you either..just saying that if you can achieve a mileage of 60+ why cant i also try for the same..
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                • Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post
                  Im riding a GS since 8 months now and the mileage that you and many others claim is a dream for me. You see, no matter how hard I try, I cannot achieve such figures.

                  Very recently, I had my bike can-tested for mileage. Under uncle mode driving, i get around 50 kmpl....if a bit careless, I get around 40 kmpl. I didnt test for insane driving. But the point is, even under my best driving efforts (which include anticipating the flow of traffic, resisting the urge to overtake unnecessarily, keeping speeds under 50 kmph, shifting as early as possible but using the appropriate gears etc), ................and I maintain my bike upto good standards............, Im only getting around 50 kmpl or so under city driving conditions.
                  I also got my GS like you in oct2010. Now the odo@7350 and recently 5th service completed.

                  Regarding mileage : Usually I fill my tank full and ride until reserve and then again refueling. Recently when i moved to Hyderabad, I tested my bike average with R-R method and got 60KMPL(5L fillup @ govt petrol pump). Normally i get around 55KMPL and i was amazed to know my bike returned 60KMPL in Hyd traffic(daily journey is 42KM).

                  I never got below 55 mileage in both mumbai and hyd traffic. One thing i always stress while servicing is "do not touch carb tuning as i am getting good mileage" .

                  My daily riding pattern is below :
                  1. Weekly air checkup in tyres (as prescribed in manual: Front -25 and rear - 33)
                  2. While First startup of the day, i will warm up my engine for 30 seconds without accelaration
                  3. Using clutch as less as possible
                  4. I didnt see RPM for gear change, i usually do with engine sound and speed. upshift to 5th @ 35-40KMPH and 6th @50KMPH. I tries to ride in 45-65 speed as much as possible(4000-5000rpm in higher gears)
                  While downshift i stay till 30KMPH for 6th and 25KMPH for 5th gear.
                  5. more than half of my braking done through accelaration off.

                  I do not my riding style is uncle mode or dad mode but i am used to it .
                  One thing is sure GS is capable of 60+KMPL mileage in city conditions.

                  Getting 50KMPL is good in city like blore and i donot expect much more in Blore traffic and roads .

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                  • When i am refilling my GS in trusted AP Secretriate petrol pump, the filling men and other uncles of passion's and splendors amazed to see GS tank capacity.

                    My tank took exactly 19 Liters of petrol and the mean time it gathers several people to park their bike and to see GS petrol tank. Everyone including me is observing the meter reading and tank . They are enquiring the bike details like model, on road price and mileage.

                    The person who filled fuel is saying in his life he never seen a bike with this much big capacity .

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                    • Originally posted by antonysg View Post
                      Coming to the new Gs150r. The tyres on the white bike in the photos look worn though; I hope this is not a hoax and truly a new gs150r's pictures. The absence of saree guard and crash guard indicates it is a new bike.

                      Well, i had speculated in one of my old posts here about new colors, possibly white and copper color. So, now the white is here. I had also mentioned about rear disk brake. From the photos, there is no rear disk brake. The new headlight definitely looks a lot more aggressive. Also, the front shock absorbers are now black in color, not grey, and there is no rubber cladding on the front shock absorbers. As Mach50 indicated, there is also a new more powerful coil with more poles in the current model of gs150r. So, all in all, i its not just a cosmetic upgrade.

                      All said, the suzuki gs150r, even in its current form, is definitely a good bike. But I hope they managed to reduce weight a bit in the new one. That would make the Gs150r leaner and meaner.

                      Antony,

                      THIS IS THE FINAL WORD ABOUT THE NEW BIKE. As I said yesterday, Suzuki has not marketed or is planning to market any new bike of any cc. Modification of any of their bikes including GS is out of question. No part including the visor of the GS has been modified.



                      Someone has tried to make us fools. That b****** has succeeded up to a certain limit.

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                      • Originally posted by newfan View Post
                        Finally decided not to wait for the new GS-150R 2011 EDITION and my Favourite Greenish Blue Colour.

                        I made up my mind to pick up a candy orange GS from the dealer next week .
                        I would to allowed into their Godown to choose my bike before registration . So wat all factors should i consider before selecting my new Horse? I was told by the salesperson tat there r few GS wit CEAT TYRES on them. Not sure whether he s confused between the tyres of SLING SHOT. so if it happens to be true which one should i opt???

                        And how to distinguish a new bike and the bike used for test drives???


                        At last the time has come going to get my bike delivered tomo. I have managed to get max acces from the dealer. i seleced my bike today.

                        Now coming to the use of fuel , which one should i use
                        1) SHELL-Unleaded which has lot of Gaseoline and very rare for urgency. Does our GS compatible wit this . I remember our ACTIVA which was on SHELL completly for its first 2 years, Its sound is different from most Activas now.
                        2) INDIAN OIL which s very common so that i can stick on to only one company on a longer terms.
                        3) PREMIUM PETROL from any of the companies for atleast the run In period upto second service.

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                        • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                          The coil you mentioned is of Access 125; not new. Some suspect that it is more powerful, but not and is not a direct fit to old batches GS. But all the new GSs are fitted with this coil but no noticeable gain.

                          The rr used in the new bikes is the same old CA series. As you know, changing or rewinding the coil alone cannot give more voltage or current.
                          That is why we ask to rewind the coil and replace the rr with a better one like that of Ape or Avenger. (Ape’s rr is not a direct fit).
                          The 12 pole coil obviously has more potential than the one on the old batch GS bikes.Since it has been exploited on my bike,I know it well..........thick rewinding per pole with low resistance wires makes it an electronic explosive.

                          I have used the Piaggio APE RR and it got well grounded in place of the stock CA RR, it has posed no problem till date.The Piaggio Ape RR is a very sophisticated rectifier unit.........it can take control and regulate any amount of current that the customized stator assay can generate.

                          My bike can now support 150Watts of electricals easy.Which means I can keep 2 such 35watt HIDs easy and make the night glow like day while honking the 4-wheeler horn used on my GS all the way.But I have other uses for that electronics.

                          The 9Ah battery on the new GS also keeps up with such charging system...............I heard somewhere when I was new here that the old batch had 7Ah battery or something like that.

                          The 2010 GS electronics according to me is just a step away from being the full DC bike as a stock..........that is why I said that the upcoming models can have the full DC system easy.

                          The best thing is...........no one can understand that there has been electrical up-gradation on my bike visibly.........until the person knows how the stock GS150R RR looks like.Everything has been so well set-up and it has been done without any tantrums.

                          Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                          THIS IS THE FINAL WORD ABOUT THE NEW BIKE.
                          I suppose you are not a Suzuki direct employee..........but the people who work at Suzuki main dealerships speaks of a new GS150R universally.

                          First it was Maestro with the news from his SVC,next Satellite Kid (an outsider to GS150R ownership) got news from another Main dealership, then it was our respected PSR who too confirmed a new GS150R from yet another main dealership................still I had doubts until I heard with my own ears.

                          One of the main dealerships in West Bengal too says of it very convincingly.....new GS150R with updated body works and modified parts and a new name and a 110cc bike which is SMIL's main focus now.The 250 has been hold off for now to make time for the 110cc launch,but would hit the market eventually.

                          Even the Access 125 scoot would get refreshed........as I was informed.

                          So,this is a story of a progressive company and it looks very healthy.

                          So,whose final word would I believe Vishnu ???? Yours or theirs ????

                          Though it won't affect me anyway as my own GS150R is gonna be unique in its own way,but such news would draw the attention of many new bikers and prospective bike buyers who can defer their purchase of some other brand to try out something good and different !!!!!
                          Last edited by MACH50; 06-28-2011, 08:43 PM.
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                          • Originally posted by KIRTIMANNAN View Post
                            just saying that if you can achieve a mileage of 60+ why cant i also try for the same..

                            Some of the mechanics in some service centers have the habit of opening and cleaning, retuning or altering the settings of the carburetor at the time of 1st servicing as a ritual. Not all but some are doing it without knowing what they are doing. I have experienced it.

                            Every bike is having the same settings because of the mass production where the worker has nothing special to do. Everything including tuning is done by machines. So, technically, both the bike of ours are the same.

                            Now, ask the engineer in the service centre to check the mileage of your bike and if needed, get it retuned correctly by him with the help of gas analyzer and digital tachometer. These instruments and engineer is available at all the main service centers.

                            Originally posted by newfan View Post
                            At last the time has come going to get my bike delivered tomo. I have managed to get max acces from the dealer. i seleced my bike today.

                            Now coming to the use of fuel , which one should i use
                            1) SHELL-Unleaded which has lot of Gaseoline and very rare for urgency. Does our GS compatible wit this . I remember our ACTIVA which was on SHELL completly for its first 2 years, Its sound is different from most Activas now.
                            2) INDIAN OIL which s very common so that i can stick on to only one company on a longer terms.
                            3) PREMIUM PETROL from any of the companies for atleast the run In period upto second service.




                            2. In my opinion, it is safe to use any brand of petrol in our GS. Mixing all the available brands also makes no difference because all the companies are collecting fuel from the same refinery. It is like writing GS250R or GS325R on your bike.

                            3. Adding some small % of fuel additives to normal petrol is making premium petrol. These additives are available in the market in the brand name of Bardahl, Iftex, Sonar, 3M, STG etc., etc.

                            I am using it from the 1st day in my bike. Surely it has an effect upon you if you think it is better fuel. That effect is psychological.

                            Fill any brand of petrol from any petrol bunk.

                            Post some close-up pictures of your bike at the earliest. All the best.

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                            • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                              The 12 pole coil obviously has more potential than the one on the old batch GS bikes.Since it has been exploited on my bike,I know it well..........thick rewinding per pole with low resistance wires makes it an electronic explosive.

                              The thickness of the wire reduces the resistance. It is natural. Here, not the 12 pole coil but the wire you used is making that ‘explosion’.


                              Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                              I have used the Piaggio APE RR and it got well grounded in place of the stock CA RR, it has posed no problem till date.The Piaggio Ape RR is a very sophisticated rectifier unit.........it can take control and regulate any amount of current that the customized stator assay can generate.

                              I have no arguments in this case. What I said is this: it is not a direct replacement of our stock rr. The stock wiring needs to be changed.


                              Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                              My bike can now support 150Watts of electricals easy.Which means I can keep 2 such 35watt HIDs easy and make the night glow like day while honking the 4-wheeler horn used on my GS all the way.But I have other uses for that electronics..

                              This also is not because of the 12 pole coil but because of the rewinding of the coil which has increased the amperage of the electric supply.



                              Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                              The 9Ah battery on the new GS also keeps up with such charging system...............I heard somewhere when I was new here that the old batch had 7Ah battery or something like that.

                              As you know, Ape is a full DC vehicle and its battery is bigger and its rr is capable to recharge it.



                              Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                              I suppose you are not a Suzuki direct employee..........but the people who work at Suzuki main dealerships speaks of a new GS150R universally.

                              Let them speak. Our country is not in an emergency period now. Everyone has the right to say whatever he likes. This crazy is called democracy.


                              Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                              So,whose final word would I believe Vishnu ???? Yours or theirs ????

                              According to me, mine.

                              Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                              Though it won't affect me anyway as my own GS150R is gonna be unique in its own way,but such news would draw the attention of many new bikers and prospective bike buyers who can defer their purchase of some other brand to try out something good and different !!!!!
                              If it does not affect you, don’t bother about it. Let others bother. Who cares? We are brave Indians.
                              Last edited by vishnukmd; 06-28-2011, 09:31 PM.

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                              • Did 500 kms on last Sunday alone... B'lore(E-City) <-> Chitradurga. Avg Speed 85 km/hr, top 114 km/hr. Fuel consumed 14 ltr approx(36 kmpl). Journey time was 6 Hrs to and fro. No issues(was scared by the thought "what if")...


                                Observation: do not open throttle more than 70%, it's wastage of fuel just for some adrenalin. Keeping it around 5-6K RPM might give better mileage.. However, I couldn't help it revving it as it was much enjoyable ...
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