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  • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

    Originally posted by badar.wase View Post
    Hi karthik.
    I've unicorn 160 i also gone through the same problem. The culprit is blocked air pipe. You can see a hole under fuel cap from there fuel tank can breathe. Either something is clogged in that pipe or the pipe has a sharp bend some where.
    In my case a clamp under the he side stand pressing the pipe. ASC guy loosen the clamp and blown air under fuel cap hole. The problem has been solved.
    Try this once.

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    Hi Babar,
    Thanks for your suggestion. I checked the fuel vent hole. There is nothing blocking this pipe.
    I kept a straw and blew some air in the pipe and I could sense the air coming out freely from two of the pipes next to the side stand.

    Not sure if this is the problem.
    Today morning, I could not start the bike. I started bike with choke and it started, kept it like that for 2min, the moment I switched off choke engine got killed.
    Later I could not even start it. tried multiple times using both kick and self and nothing helped.

    Finally I opened the fuel cap and closed it. Then bike started as usual.

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    • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

      Hi friends,
      I need some help.

      1) The saree guard that comes with the bike touches the rear wheel center bolt even on the smallest of potholes and produce 'tik-tik' sound. The service center guy just pulled the bottom of the guard outwards and now its okay. I felt that action very unprofessional and saree guard now seems misaligned with its rear portion wide open<< like it's yawning .

      2) With an average pillion (~70 kg, hence 70+80=150 kg in total) the center stand hits the ground while on an unpaved bad road (I live in a small village !!) with a moderate speed of 30 kmph. But it didn't occur when I ride dead slow <10 kmph.
      Will it help if the suspension is set to stiffer side? The service center guy told me it's because the bike is a sports model (low ground clearance 164 mm) and nothing cannot be done as this problem is inherent. He is like "I don't do the suspension adjustment because I know it won't help. You better avoid that road"
      But my HH CD 100 SS ( ground clearance 165 mm and I ride it like hell in that road) and lot of pulsar, FZ guys use the same road without scraping the bike.

      3) While inspecting the center stand issue, I noticed four screw holes under the engine block in a rectangular pattern. I don't know what fits there...any accessory like skid plate or am I missing something ? Kindly look for the same in your bike and please let me know. I'm attaching an image..see the four yellow arrows.Click image for larger version

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      • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

        Originally posted by unik View Post
        3) While inspecting the center stand issue, I noticed four screw holes under the engine block in a rectangular pattern. I don't know what fits there...any accessory like skid plate or am I missing something ? Kindly look for the same in your bike and please let me know. I'm attaching an image..see the four yellow arrows.
        That is where the rider footpeg assembly is attached in a Unicorn 160. You can ignore those holes.

        Originally posted by kkarthik View Post
        I kept a straw and blew some air in the pipe and I could sense the air coming out freely from two of the pipes next to the side stand
        Am not sure, but that is not possible as the petrol tank is vented via the EVAP unit to the atmosphere. This is why in BS4 vehicles like Hornet and RTRs, there is a prominent warning (either in the manual book or on the tank itself) not to overfill the tank, as petrol would overflow via the tube that connects the tank to the EVAP canister and cause an air block.

        Did you fill the tank upto its brim any time?

        Still waiting for owners of special edition red and blue to post some pictures of your Hornet.

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        • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

          Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post



          Am not sure, but that is not possible as the petrol tank is vented via the EVAP unit to the atmosphere. This is why in BS4 vehicles like Hornet and RTRs, there is a prominent warning (either in the manual book or on the tank itself) not to overfill the tank, as petrol would overflow via the tube that connects the tank to the EVAP canister and cause an air block.

          Did you fill the tank upto its brim any time?
          Hi ashwanth
          I am not sure about EVAP unit. I read the manual and it say that vapour escapes from canister.
          But when I blew air in the hole inside fuel cap, I clearly felt the air coming out from 2 pipes behind the side stand.


          I did not clearly observe if had overfilled the tank or not. Can you let me know how can I test if I had blocked the tube connecting canister?
          Also, I noticed this sound coming out from fuel cap from day 1 onwards, I showed this to the service person and he said there is no issue with the sound.
          Last edited by kkarthik; 07-18-2017, 04:43 PM.

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          • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

            Do any one know where exactly the fuel vapor lint to charcoal canister present in honda hornet.
            I doubt this line is blocked for my bike. Please let me know how to unblock this line

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            • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

              Originally posted by kkarthik View Post
              Do any one know where exactly the fuel vapor lint to charcoal canister present in honda hornet.
              I doubt this line is blocked for my bike. Please let me know how to unblock this line
              See post



              The thinner rubber hose is the one that connects the tank with the charcoal/EVAP can. It may not be blocked as you said air is blown near the side stand when you took a straw and blew air to the hole on the petrol tank. The culprit might be the connection on the fuel lid itself - this is usually cleaned by compressed air in the SVC and its a common problem for it to get clogged even on non-BS4 bikes - that can cause the air lock problem.
              Last edited by ashwanth.r; 07-18-2017, 07:06 PM.

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              • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
                See post



                The thinner rubber hose is the one that connects the tank with the charcoal/EVAP can. It may not be blocked as you said air is blown near the side stand when you took a straw and blew air to the hole on the petrol tank. The culprit might be the connection on the fuel lid itself - this is usually cleaned by compressed air in the SVC and its a common problem for it to get clogged even on non-BS4 bikes - that can cause the air lock problem.

                Hi Ashwanth,
                I did not get you. What do you mean by connection on the fuel lid?
                Can you elaborate it?

                If you have a pic please post it.

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                Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post


                Am not sure, but that is not possible as the petrol tank is vented via the EVAP unit to the atmosphere. This is why in BS4 vehicles like Hornet and RTRs, there is a prominent warning (either in the manual book or on the tank itself) not to overfill the tank, as petrol would overflow via the tube that connects the tank to the EVAP canister and cause an air block.

                Did you fill the tank upto its brim any time?
                Hi Ashwanth,

                Just now I came to know that the hole in which I blew air is fuel overflow hole. Its not the vent hole.
                Still need to find where is that damn vent hole.

                May be you are right, some overfilled petrol flew into this tube. But, how can I find it out and how can I fix this?
                Need some help badly.
                Last edited by kkarthik; 07-18-2017, 08:07 PM.

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                • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                  Originally posted by kkarthik View Post
                  Hi Ashwanth,
                  I did not get you. What do you mean by connection on the fuel lid?
                  Can you elaborate it?

                  If you have a pic please post it.
                  The fuel tank lid (the cap we open by putting the key in for refuelling) will have 2 holes.

                  1. One hole would mate with the one on the tank.
                  2. Second one, the bottom of the lid itself will have a very small hole - this hole will 'face' the inside of the tank.

                  So essentially, this 'connection' which runs through the fuel lid itself can get clogged.

                  In bikes like ZMA, the design can be slightly complex.



                  If you can find a way to blow air in the holes of the fuel lid itself, we can see whether it helps your problem.

                  Post a pic of your Hornet's fuel lid and tank's mouth when possible.

                  This is the basic design on my GS (doesn't have an EVAP):

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                  These are the holes:

                  #1 Connected to a rubber hose, vented to atmosphere.

                  #2 Mates with #1 when lid is closed.

                  #3 Is in contact with the "inside of the tank" - petrol can vaporize through this hole (or) air can enter the tank through this hole.

                  #4 Rain water drain hole, not shown.

                  Culprit can be #1 to EVAP, #1 to atmosphere or connection between #2 and #3. Hornet might use a different design but finding the holes should be easy.
                  Last edited by ashwanth.r; 07-18-2017, 10:45 PM. Reason: Addition of Photo

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                  • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                    Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
                    The fuel tank lid (the cap we open by putting the key in for refuelling) will have 2 holes.

                    1. One hole would mate with the one on the tank.
                    2. Second one, the bottom of the lid itself will have a very small hole - this hole will 'face' the inside of the tank.

                    So essentially, this 'connection' which runs through the fuel lid itself can get clogged.

                    In bikes like ZMA, the design can be slightly complex.



                    If you can find a way to blow air in the holes of the fuel lid itself, we can see whether it helps your problem.

                    Post a pic of your Hornet's fuel lid and tank's mouth when possible.
                    Hi,

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                    • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                      Originally posted by kkarthik View Post
                      Hi,
                      Please check the photos.
                      No, Hornet doesn't have the usual GS-type or Karizma-type vent (this place is left as a dummy on the lid). The hole in which you blew air is the rain water drain. One of the options is to remove the Tank-to-EVAP hose at EVAP-end and gently blowing air through it (One has to keep the tank lid open while doing this). This is usually the thinner hose. If it drips petrol when you remove it, that might be due to overfilling. The bigger one goes to a check valve.

                      If your vehicle is brand new (or) you are not sure how to do, I suggest taking it to SVC.
                      Last edited by ashwanth.r; 07-18-2017, 10:49 PM.

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                      • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                        Congo bro

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                        • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                          Originally posted by Harideep View Post
                          Hi,

                          Congrats on your new bike. I need more info bro. Im planning to buy this bike for daily commute and long drive. Let me know your suggestion.
                          It's very good as a daily commute


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                          • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                            Originally posted by unik View Post
                            Hi friends,

                            2) With an average pillion (~70 kg, hence 70+80=150 kg in total) the center stand hits the ground while on an unpaved bad road (I live in a small village !!) with a moderate speed of 30 kmph. But it didn't occur when I ride dead slow <10 kmph.
                            Will it help if the suspension is set to stiffer side? The service center guy told me it's because the bike is a sports model (low ground clearance 164 mm) and nothing cannot be done as this problem is inherent. He is like "I don't do the suspension adjustment because I know it won't help. You better avoid that road"
                            But my HH CD 100 SS ( ground clearance 165 mm and I ride it like hell in that road) and lot of pulsar, FZ guys use the same road without scraping the bike.
                            Having same amount of ground clearance does not mean that every bike will glide over speed breakers. It also depends on the wheelbase of your bike. Hornet has a much longer wheelbase compared to that of CD 100 SS and even its a bit longer than the fz's wheelbase that is the reason you are scraping the bottom of your bike. The longer the wheelbase the more ground clearance it will require to clear an uneven surface.
                            I own an fzs v2 which has 160mm of ground clearance and it also scrapes its bottom on speed-breaker when I have a pillion with me whereas my honda aviator with 145mm of ground clearance never scraped its bottom till date due to its compact wheelbase.
                            I had stiffened up my Fz's suspension to the hardest but it did not help much, but after replacing the stock 140/60 low profile rear tyre with the 140/70 rear tyre I have never scraped any speed breaker till date.

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                            • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                              Originally posted by DigantRai View Post
                              Congratulations!
                              Welcome to Hornet Owners club.
                              4 to 5 days...i also wil b a hornetian...๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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                              • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                                Originally posted by Rajdip Saha View Post
                                Having same amount of ground clearance does not mean that every bike will glide over speed breakers. It also depends on the wheelbase of your bike.
                                Thanks for the info.. Rajdip. That means I have to be careful or better avoid bad roads. ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

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