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**kathi** · 06-24-2016, 02:23 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by CyaniD3 View Post

but during my first service where they charged me 850 Rs (Compulsory Oil Change Honda Genuine Oil 10W30 - 310 Rs Chain Cleaning - 200 Rs Chain Lubrication using 3M - 250 Rs Labour Charge - 50 Rs and the remaining tax)

Note that first three services free.
Means no charge for labour service. Charge only for consumables/parts.
850 is too much.
Chain cleaning 200 too much and also it should be free.
Chain lubrication using 3M -250 too much. Max it may be 50-100.
So max it should be 450.
Mine was done at 345.
Take up this issue with concerned.

**kiranvarghese40** · 06-24-2016, 06:02 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by kathi View Post

Note that first three services free.
Means no charge for labour service. Charge only for consumables/parts.
850 is too much.
Chain cleaning 200 too much and also it should be free.
Chain lubrication using 3M -250 too much. Max it may be 50-100.
So max it should be 450.
Mine was done at 345.
Take up this issue with concerned.

I just got mine after first service, they charged me:

Engine oil 380
Chain lube 75
Total came up to 475 including taxes

**anoopkumar0** · 06-24-2016, 06:02 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

CyaniD3
but during my first service where they charged me 850 Rs (Compulsory Oil Change Honda Genuine Oil 10W30 - 310 Rs Chain Cleaning - 200 Rs Chain Lubrication using 3M - 250 Rs Labour Charge - 50 Rs and the remaining tax)

Note that first three services free.
Means no charge for labour service. Charge only for consumables/parts.
850 is too much.
Chain cleaning 200 too much and also it should be free.
Chain lubrication using 3M -250 too much. Max it may be 50-100.
So max it should be 450.
Mine was done at 345.
Take up this issue with concerned.

Agree,
In my both service, they only charged for Engine oil (310), consumable (~50) and rubber ring washer (2). I asked them to clean the chain and lube the chain specifically.
They can only charge for Oil not for cleaning.

**CyaniD3** · 06-25-2016, 10:39 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by nomadic View Post

@ CyaniD3 -

1. Recently it was raining heavily , so I needed to rev my bike a bit hard . The moment I crossed 83 Kmph, there was a sudden cut in the petrol flow. I mean I was accelerating but then there was a sudden drop in power and at that point of time I was in my last point of petrol - Was it because of the low petrol that the bike didnt allow me to accelerate above 83kmph or is it something else ?
2. How do you figure it out when you bike has come to reserve ? The last point is the indicator or the last point is the indicator ?

Hi!
I guess the above situation you have described is when your bike actually went into reserve mode and hence the sudden drop in acceleration irrespective of the speed. Would advise you to ride as slow when you anticipate that the bike is low in fuel or is in reserve mode.

When the last dot on the fuel meter display keeps blinking is when the bike is the tank is low on fuel but you can still go ahead for 25 - 30 kms more.

When the bike gradually stops - it will make a sputtering noise and slow and halt completely thats is when you would realise that you have to release the fuel knob into reserve mode. The reserve has about 1.7 litres of fuel.

Please avoid such situations as it would be very risky if riding fast say on a right lane.

If you already have the fuel knob in reserve mode and then continue riding then ensure you tank up soon.

Ok. Thank you for your reply.

Have one question - If the reserve will have 1.7 Litres of petrol shouldnt the bike run for another like say 60 - 80 kms if the bike is giving you an average of 45 kmpl ?
I havent come into reserve at any point of time.

It was just one time before my first service or you can say during the initial 100 kms where the last point on my bike was blinking and I thought there is a need to feel the fuel up..

But I never came across the sputtering noise and slow and halt completely....

How much reserve does it have and how much additional do you get .. I mean the full tank ?
And how does the petrol indicator measure ? Does it include the reserve fuel also ?

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Originally posted by anoopkumar0 View Post

@CyaniD3:
As per manual Engine oil should be 10W30 . I think it's on page 40.
Bike may have lost power because water may have went inside the silencer. *Or bike went into reserve

Engine Kill switch:

Useful when you are at traffic light, you can just press a switch and immediately turn on without, have to lean to key.
If you approaching to stop you can stop the engine in advance to save fuel.
In case of accident, it's easy to kill the engine to avoid too much skidding of bike by driver or other person. It may be helpful to avoid further injury.

It's a nifty feature and Honda should have added it.

Edit: What is the sorcery ?? can't quote your post

Hi,
Thanks for showing us the advantages.
But look at either way to stop at traffic light or while approaching to stop you press the engine switch to kill the engine.....

Where as in default you just need to take a little pain of to turn on and off the key ....
I mean either you are pressing a button or you are turning something.. Its not like that it happens automatically or something... right..

I guess anyone can do that without having to rape their bike or void off the warranty for this feature...
During the time of accident... you surely wont have any consciousness as what to do ...

Anyways it was just my opinion on my engine kill switch feature....
I dont offend anyone for it but just wanted to know why do they have such curiousity for it..

I mean apart from engine kill switch - Honda could have included gear indicator, average display, service reminder, auto - on headlights feature , side stand down feature etc.

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Originally posted by Shashank K R View Post

@CyaniD3

3. what do you mean by "grimming" sound? Or did you mean grinding sound?

4. As per manual bike needs 10W30. From my experience 10W30 is useful for winters while 10W40 is very much needed in summers.

They have used mineral oil in your bike, which is understandable since you've covered very less kms in your bike.

5. This is because your bike is still new. As you ride more it'll become easier. I don't think there's any gearbox oil used unlike gearless scooters and cars.

6. AFAIK there's no hazard light. You can enable the parking light (I think that's what it's called).

I guess you are pretty right ..

3. Grimming sound or Grinding Sound - I am trying to refer the sound when the piston moves inside the engine ... I have noticed the sound during 30 - 50 kmph but on 60 kmph constant that sound disappears in 5 th gear and reappears again after 70kmph.

4. I went for first servicing during 650 km. Generally first service is during 750 km.. but stupid honda has got a policy ... to get your first service done within 750 km or 1 month... so It was my first month which came earlier so ended up doing first service.

Well they put synthetic oil 10W30 which had a grey color bottle of Honda Oil...
I was planning to change it back to Motul 15W40 or 15W30 .....

6. HAzard light or parking light.... I mean how do you turn that on ?
I have seen guys turning it on during servicing...but i just forgot to ask them about it..

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Originally posted by kathi View Post

Note that first three services free.
Means no charge for labour service. Charge only for consumables/parts.
850 is too much.
Chain cleaning 200 too much and also it should be free.
Chain lubrication using 3M -250 too much. Max it may be 50-100.
So max it should be 450.
Mine was done at 345.
Take up this issue with concerned.

Hi Brother ,
Where did you get your servicing done ?
I bought the bike from Navi Mumbai , Vashi although I stay at ghatkopar :P
I mean it was my dads friend shop from where we buy..
I got my first service done at Vihaan Honda in Vashi, Navi Mumbai.

Well I did tell the guy that rather than paying you 200 for Chain Cleaning and 250 for Chain Lubrication - I would prefer to buy separate bottle of 3M which would cost me that much.

But they are like sir warranty nahi milta hain.. I mean I know service center just want to try and loot up customers by telling them ki "sir yeh karo woh karo... nahi karoge toh warranty nahi milta hain sort offf"
And generally Honda Service Center try to loot you off.. I mean I was just late for my third Service of Honda Shine by almost like 10 days ... so these guys were like ki "sir sorry aapka thrid service khatam ho gaya .. aap late ho ... it will be considered as fourth service "

Do you stay at mumbai ?

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Originally posted by anoopkumar0 View Post

Agree,
In my both service, they only charged for Engine oil (310), consumable (~50) and rubber ring washer (2). I asked them to clean the chain and lube the chain specifically.
They can only charge for Oil not for cleaning.

Which service center did you visit ?
Because from my previous experiences from Honda Service Center - Chembur, Pilot Honda Service Center - Navi Mumbai Vashi and Vihaan Honda Service Center - Navi Mumbai Vashi .... these service center always try to loot customers..

I specifically asked the guy for chain lubrication ... he showed me in the coupon that chain lubrication is not of free service ... (I mean the checklist during the first service slip).. and told me it is chargeable ..

Anyways I paid off for my first service ... I dont intend to go for second service to them ..
Just wanted to ask what exactly do they do in second service ?

**kathi** · 06-25-2016, 11:22 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by CyaniD3 View Post

Well they put synthetic oil 10W30 which had a grey color bottle of Honda Oil.

Hi Brother ,
Where did you get your servicing done ?

But they are like sir warranty nahi milta hain.. I mean I know service center just want to try and loot up customers by telling them ki "sir yeh karo woh karo... nahi karoge toh warranty nahi milta hain sort offf"

Grey color bottle with 270 MRP and 14.5% tax, total cost 310 rupees.
Outside spare parts shop you can get same oil at MRP price. There only we loose 40 rupees.
It is not synthetic but mineral.
Synthetics cost much higher.
I am from hyd.
Chain cleaning is service so it should be free. For me it was.
Only chain lube is consumable they charged 30 rupees.

No benefit in arguing with who are doing your service, they are not decision makers, better take up with manager or head. We can discuss with them properly with logic/rules.
400 extra rupees on 450-475 is outright cheating.
In second service refer again service leaflet back side. You can see some 20 tasks which no service centre does completely.
Anyways it is after 6000 kms/6 months.
Enjoy your ride.

**Shashank K R** · 06-25-2016, 11:38 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

[MENTION=84927]CyaniD3[/MENTION]

3. I'm not sure about this.

4. This policy is generally there in every manufacturer's service.
The grey bottle is mineral oil. You can put synthetic after the 2nd or 3rd service. For summer use 10W40 and monsoon/winter 10W30.

6. There's a sliding switch on the left side switchgear which turns on the lights. There are 3 steps - off, parking light+console backlight+taillight and finally headlight on

**CyaniD3** · 06-25-2016, 03:19 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by kathi View Post

Grey color bottle with 270 MRP and 14.5% tax, total cost 310 rupees.
Outside spare parts shop you can get same oil at MRP price. There only we loose 40 rupees.
It is not synthetic but mineral.
Synthetics cost much higher.
I am from hyd.
Chain cleaning is service so it should be free. For me it was.
Only chain lube is consumable they charged 30 rupees.

No benefit in arguing with who are doing your service, they are not decision makers, better take up with manager or head. We can discuss with them properly with logic/rules.
400 extra rupees on 450-475 is outright cheating.
In second service refer again service leaflet back side. You can see some 20 tasks which no service centre does completely.
Anyways it is after 6000 kms/6 months.
Enjoy your ride.

Hi ,
Money once gone is not gonna come back ..
I will be visiting Honda service center in Mumbai I think ..
The guy said second service after 4 months - 4000 Kms ....

**CyaniD3** · 06-25-2016, 03:19 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by Shashank K R View Post

[MENTION=84927]CyaniD3[/MENTION]

3. I'm not sure about this.

4. This policy is generally there in every manufacturer's service.
The grey bottle is mineral oil. You can put synthetic after the 2nd or 3rd service. For summer use 10W40 and monsoon/winter 10W30.

6. There's a sliding switch on the left side switchgear which turns on the lights. There are 3 steps - off, parking light+console backlight+taillight and finally headlight on

Hmmm ok ...
I guess I will change it after some time ...
Anyways let me try out that parking lights and update you ...

**kathi** · 06-25-2016, 05:47 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by CyaniD3 View Post

Hi ,
Money once gone is not gonna come back ..
The guy said second service after 4 months - 4000 Kms ....

Ya. I was telling next time be carefull.
Manual says 6 months- 6000 kms.
But ya 4 months -4000 km is good.
We cant stretch hornet to 6000 kms without oil change with mineral oil.

**nomadic** · 06-25-2016, 08:23 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by CyaniD3 View Post

Ok. Thank you for your reply.

Have one question - If the reserve will have 1.7 Litres of petrol shouldnt the bike run for another like say 60 - 80 kms if the bike is giving you an average of 45 kmpl ?
I havent come into reserve at any point of time.

It was just one time before my first service or you can say during the initial 100 kms where the last point on my bike was blinking and I thought there is a need to feel the fuel up..

But I never came across the sputtering noise and slow and halt completely....

How much reserve does it have and how much additional do you get .. I mean the full tank ?
And how does the petrol indicator measure ? Does it include the reserve fuel also ?
?

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You're welcome..When the last dot is blinking and that the bike can go for about 25 - 30 kms more is when the 'last dot is only blinking' and not when the bike is actually on reserve. Just exactly the way you felt that you had to refill. Since your bike suddenly stopped I felt it must have been time to refill and turn the knob.

I have also ridden in crazy rains on the highway and there was no issue whatsoever but I did not exceed 65 - 70 due to visibility issues. In fact the bike sounded best and bassy in the rains!

I have gone once into reserve mode - as in turn the knob to reserve before which the bike gradually lost power and slowed down - however I was anticipating the same and had slowed down considerably.

Sometimes when there is adequate fuel left but still the last dot is blinking - it does not necessarily mean that the bike is close to reserve.

As and when you ride you will know when the bike is close on reserve. I prefer not to ride on reserve unless there is an emergency say a remote place and searching for the nearest place to fill up and so yes your observation is right the range will definitely be more if you ride with the last 1.7 litres left.

Some members here have mentioned the inaccuracy of the digital fuel meter and I agree. The full fuel capacity of the bike including the reserve is 12 L.

I would suggest you to read the manual thoroughly or go through the previous posts in the thread.

**sam2561** · 06-25-2016, 08:52 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by nomadic View Post

I deliberately opted for white as fine dust is least visible on white surfaces in my opinion. And hence low maintenance for dry conditions My other bike is black. And I am tired of having to wax it periodically or keep dusting off the excess dust from time to time (multiple times a day) because of my slight OCD nature.

Black definitely has more depth due to its sheen and mirror like effect. But dust is highly pronounced when it settles on a black or dark blue surface. And in my case the lower part of the bike is definitely 'visibly' dusty than the top portion.

In contrary Hornet is one of the few bikes which looks good in white due to absence of graphic stickers. White lacks the mirror effect of black but has a overall glow due to its reflective nature. I have also noticed that on sunny afternoons the tank is not very hot at all compared to my black Xpro which would literally have a burning surface!

Bird droppings look ugly and are a problem anyways on bikes or cars of any colour! (If you see the other way round white bird droppings would be less prominent on white, lol!)

And yes black is definitely the preferred and safest choice. I would have gone blindly for black or dark blue had I not seen the display vehicle in white. The only downside for white is that I could not do the PPF treatment on white and that white would overall tend to turn a dull yellow in a few years.

Wish you a speedy recovery Zeit!

What would be your pick between black and blue? Iam a 25 year old guy working as a lecturer in a college , i guess flashy colors like red and orange won't be decent as for my profession. I am not a fan of white... so iam left with black and blue. Plz suggest me. Does the dark blue look very dull ?

**Ezhilan VS** · 06-25-2016, 10:00 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by sam2561 View Post

What would be your pick between black and blue? Iam a 25 year old guy working as a lecturer in a college , i guess flashy colors like red and orange won't be decent as for my profession. I am not a fan of white... so iam left with black and blue. Plz suggest me. Does the dark blue look very dull ?

Well Sam I own a blue hornet but its completely your wish to pick the colour black looks elegant blue is unique and trust me if u buy a blue one you will have a hard time convincing your friends that it is blue one of my frnd still thinks I'm fooling him saying that my bike is blue in colour. I brought blue cos it looks nice in sunlight.

**nomadic** · 06-25-2016, 11:19 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by sam2561 View Post

What would be your pick between black and blue? Iam a 25 year old guy working as a lecturer in a college , i guess flashy colors like red and orange won't be decent as for my profession. I am not a fan of white... so iam left with black and blue. Plz suggest me. Does the dark blue look very dull ?

Hi sam2561.

In my opinion, yes I agree with you. It will be better to go for an understated colour. Red and orange isn't bad at all! But being a young professor you might be mistaken for a college student yourself.

I think you should go for the dark blue option. Fellow hornet owner Anoopkumar has one and he has posted some amazing pictures back in beginning of the thread.

It has a nice mysterious 2 tone feel to it. It appears black in dark lighting conditions and a nice deep blue somewhat similar to the one available in the 2011 - 2015 Volkswagen Ventos. I absolutely love that shade. Though the one on the Hornet is a tad darker I feel.

Black is also good as it looks very nice and reflective. But if I had to pick I would go for blue because of the duo tone look.

Do update as to what you finally buy and good luck

PS - Attaching a pic of the 'Shadow Blue/ Deep blue ' shade - (correct me if I am wrong)I feel which looks closest to the Hornet's blue colour.

!

**sam2561** · 06-25-2016, 11:55 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by nomadic View Post

I deliberately opted for white as fine dust is least visible on white surfaces in my opinion. And hence low maintenance for dry conditions My other bike is black. And I am tired of having to wax it periodically or keep dusting off the excess dust from time to time (multiple times a day) because of my slight OCD nature.

Black definitely has more depth due to its sheen and mirror like effect. But dust is highly pronounced when it settles on a black or dark blue surface. And in my case the lower part of the bike is definitely 'visibly' dusty than the top portion.

In contrary Hornet is one of the few bikes which looks good in white due to absence of graphic stickers. White lacks the mirror effect of black but has a overall glow due to its reflective nature. I have also noticed that on sunny afternoons the tank is not very hot at all compared to my black Xpro which would literally have a burning surface!

Bird droppings look ugly and are a problem anyways on bikes or cars of any colour! (If you see the other way round white bird droppings would be less prominent on white, lol!)

And yes black is definitely the preferred and safest choice. I would have gone blindly for black or dark blue had I not seen the display vehicle in white. The only downside for white is that I could not do the PPF treatment on white and that white would overall tend to turn a dull yellow in a few years.

Wish you a speedy recovery Zeit!

Originally posted by Ezhilan VS View Post

Well Sam I own a blue hornet but its completely your wish to pick the colour black looks elegant blue is unique and trust me if u buy a blue one you will have a hard time convincing your friends that it is blue one of my frnd still thinks I'm fooling him saying that my bike is blue in colour. I brought blue cos it looks nice in sunlight.

Thanq very much. This helped me a lot.

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Originally posted by nomadic View Post

Hi sam2561.

In my opinion, yes I agree with you. It will be better to go for an understated colour. Red and orange isn't bad at all! But being a young professor you might be mistaken for a college student yourself.

I think you should go for the dark blue option. Fellow hornet owner Anoopkumar has one and he has posted some amazing pictures back in beginning of the thread.

It has a nice mysterious 2 tone feel to it. It appears black in dark lighting conditions and a nice deep blue somewhat similar to the one available in the 2011 - 2015 Volkswagen Ventos. I absolutely love that shade. Though the one on the Hornet is a tad darker I feel.

Black is also good as it looks very nice and reflective. But if I had to pick I would go for blue because of the duo tone look.

Do update as to what you finally buy and good luck

PS - Attaching a pic of the 'Shadow Blue/ Deep blue ' shade - (correct me if I am wrong)I feel which looks closest to the Hornet's blue colour.

[ATTACH]214090[/ATTACH]!

Thanq bro for such an elaborated explanation. Ill definitely go for the blue one. Probably by july 2nd week i will make the purchase.

**Raghvendra** · 06-26-2016, 01:52 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Hi, all fellow hornet owners. Now that most of us first buyers have spent quite a time with our bike, have any of you done any mods? Please do mention so that others may get help/inspired. Specifically i am looking for:

1) a change of handlebar, or if not complete handlebar then change in degree of inclination(please throw in advantages/disadvantages).
2) seat.

Please throw in your inputs. Thankyou.

Also for those in dilemma about Hornet, in my view double disk with cbs trumps majorly the small difference between hornet & gixxer. And then throw in the better pillion seats & you get a clear idea. Oh, did i forget the vast chain of honda service/spares centers..

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