Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

[kiran2508]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

No offence man, but you didnt give any valid reason as to why, except using a lot of adjectives in your statement. And of course, repetition . But yeah, i think even iam not comfortable with the 10k change interval. Btw, Bajaj official oil is made by TOTAL. Its quite clear on the bottle.

Ha ha, none taken. I did not explain in previous post because I thought post would get very long.

I have seen the quality Bajaj oil, both mineral and synthetic. They are basically a re-badged HP oil which I have never heard of it in the market or popular, I don't want my bike to be the lab rat to test their oil So I'd rather stick to tried and tested Motul 7100.

I was sticking to what Bajaj/KTM mentioned as per the manual and used to change my RC390 oil at 7500kms. Thank god I did only once though, when I randomly decided to check the oil at approx 5K kms I was shocked to see how bad the oil had gotten, oil had lost it's grade past 4K-5K kms by riding hard. I know a friend changes oil at 3.5K kms

When I confronted the same with mechanic who works on my bike, he said "Saar 7500kms is just for name sake to attract new buyers by quoting lower maintenance cost with longer service intervals", if you know the first batch of 2013 Duke 390's had service interval of 5K kms, then suddenly the increased it 7000kms without changing any engine components(Strange uhhh). So both being the same engine in the bottom end I don't see why Dominar gets 10K kms interval, and moreover Dominar being SOHC has lot of more components in the cylinder head that needs more lubrication.

Moreover like I mentioned somewhere else on the forum one would spend nearly Rs.13,000 to travel 5K kms, Rs.26,000 for 10K kms @80Rs/L and 30km/L, so I don't mind spending Rs.1,200 extra at 5K kms for the oil when compared to what I'll spending on fuel for the whole 10K kms if it helps the engine to Puurrrrr for longer time.

And, oil by TOTAL? Are you sure mate, last time I checked it was made by HPCL, did they change to TOTAL, please provide the source

https://www.hplubricants.in/sites/default/files/HP%20BAJAJ%20DTS-i%2010000.pdf

[bharatbatham]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

Ha ha, none taken. I did not explain in previous post because I thought post would get very long.

I have seen the quality Bajaj oil, both mineral and synthetic. They are basically a re-badged HP oil which I have never heard of it in the market or popular, I don't want my bike to be the lab rat to test their oil So I'd rather stick to tried and tested Motul 7100.

I was sticking to what Bajaj/KTM mentioned as per the manual and used to change my RC390 oil at 7500kms. Thank god I did only once though, when I randomly decided to check the oil at approx 5K kms I was shocked to see how bad the oil had gotten, oil had lost it's grade past 4K-5K kms by riding hard. I know a friend changes oil at 3.5K kms

When I confronted the same with mechanic who works on my bike, he said "Saar 7500kms is just for name sake to attract new buyers by quoting lower maintenance cost with longer service intervals", if you know the first batch of 2013 Duke 390's had service interval of 5K kms, then suddenly the increased it 7000kms without changing any engine components(Strange uhhh). So both being the same engine in the bottom end I don't see why Dominar gets 10K kms interval, and moreover Dominar being SOHC has lot of more components in the cylinder head that needs more lubrication.

Moreover like I mentioned somewhere else on the forum one would spend nearly Rs.13,000 to travel 5K kms, Rs.26,000 for 10K kms @80Rs/L and 30km/L, so I don't mind spending Rs.1,200 extra at 5K kms for the oil when compared to what I'll spending on fuel for the whole 10K kms if it helps the engine to Puurrrrr for longer time.

And, oil by TOTAL? Are you sure mate, last time I checked it was made by HPCL, did they change to TOTAL, please provide the source
[ATTACH]244526[/ATTACH]

https://www.hplubricants.in/sites/de...-i%2010000.pdf

THis is the Pic from my Owners manual. While purchasing the bike i was told it is Total company oil specially made for D400

Having said that 10K is actually too much for indian roads/traffic/start stop etc. but 4K wont it be an overkill???

[faysal_khan]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

Ha ha, none taken. I did not explain in previous post because I thought post would get very long.

I have seen the quality Bajaj oil, both mineral and synthetic. They are basically a re-badged HP oil which I have never heard of it in the market or popular, I don't want my bike to be the lab rat to test their oil So I'd rather stick to tried and tested Motul 7100.

I was sticking to what Bajaj/KTM mentioned as per the manual and used to change my RC390 oil at 7500kms. Thank god I did only once though, when I randomly decided to check the oil at approx 5K kms I was shocked to see how bad the oil had gotten, oil had lost it's grade past 4K-5K kms by riding hard. I know a friend changes oil at 3.5K kms

When I confronted the same with mechanic who works on my bike, he said "Saar 7500kms is just for name sake to attract new buyers by quoting lower maintenance cost with longer service intervals", if you know the first batch of 2013 Duke 390's had service interval of 5K kms, then suddenly the increased it 7000kms without changing any engine components(Strange uhhh). So both being the same engine in the bottom end I don't see why Dominar gets 10K kms interval, and moreover Dominar being SOHC has lot of more components in the cylinder head that needs more lubrication.

Moreover like I mentioned somewhere else on the forum one would spend nearly Rs.13,000 to travel 5K kms, Rs.26,000 for 10K kms @80Rs/L and 30km/L, so I don't mind spending Rs.1,200 extra at 5K kms for the oil when compared to what I'll spending on fuel for the whole 10K kms if it helps the engine to Puurrrrr for longer time.

And, oil by TOTAL? Are you sure mate, last time I checked it was made by HPCL, did they change to TOTAL, please provide the source
[ATTACH]244526[/ATTACH]

https://www.hplubricants.in/sites/de...-i%2010000.pdf

Here is the source from Dominar manual guys. And yeah i know it is the same container they use in Dominar. Don't know about RS n NS or others. But for Dominars it is surely made by total.

Can you surely say that oil made for dominar by total is that bad compared to motul 7100? I ma nearing my 2nd service and will change it every 5k kms. So should i ask them to fill the same oil they use or i get the 2nd service done and change the oil outside with motul 7100? What would u recommend?

[Indivar]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

[QUOTE=kiran2508;1355900]Ha ha, none taken. I did not explain in previous post because I thought post would get very long.

I have seen the quality Bajaj oil, both mineral and synthetic. They are basically a re-badged HP oil which I have never heard of it in the market or popular, I don't want my bike to be the lab rat to test their oil So I'd rather stick to tried and tested Motul 7100.

I was sticking to what Bajaj/KTM mentioned as per the manual and used to change my RC390 oil at 7500kms. Thank god I did only once though, when I randomly decided to check the oil at approx 5K kms I was shocked to see how bad the oil had gotten, oil had lost it's grade past 4K-5K kms by riding hard. I know a friend changes oil at 3.5K kms

/QUOTE]

The recommended Bajaj branded spec oil for the Dominar is the 10W50 Fully synth from TOTAL.
About service intervals, its not that far fetched, the triple spark combustion actually is to help aid in burning the fuel-air mixture more cleanly, thereby greatly reducing engine deposits. The reason you noticed the oil turning black on your friends bike is not due to a problem with the oil, it is due to a badly adjusted spark plug or some other factor causing improper combustion thereby creating additional carbon deposits, and the oil is actually doing its job of cleaning the engine.

On another note, for me, all oil is oil is oil, and will remain oil. No marketing jargon is going to make me believe otherwise. Its a petroleum product, refined and processed, and put into jars for use by industry. Some have additives to keep hell from freezing over.

I usually stick with Castrol though..

[antan_shank]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

Ok the wire the in box means, I'll will assume it's single wire from stock horn to dual horn wire conversion.

Yes

Stock single horn circuit is designed for 2A, Roots Smartone each horn is 1.5A making it 3A in total.

So if you use the the Roots horn with stock wire without relay, it will work no issues but since both LT and HT horns will only get 2A in total , because of this the horn will not sound or reach it's maximum rated dB rating(means the horn will not output maximum possible sound) as it's getting 2A in place of required 3A.

You can try it out without relay, if you are satisfied the sound output no issues, there will be no impact of wiring/battery as horn circuit already comes with a built-in fuse.

Currently it's without relay and it's sound quite loud. Will share the video containing the Roots horn sound. Thanks I am relieved to hear that these horns will not effect the wiring or the battery. Thanks once again for explaining in details.

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[QUOTE=Indivar;1355922]

Ha ha, none taken. I did not explain in previous post because I thought post would get very long.

I have seen the quality Bajaj oil, both mineral and synthetic. They are basically a re-badged HP oil which I have never heard of it in the market or popular, I don't want my bike to be the lab rat to test their oil So I'd rather stick to tried and tested Motul 7100.

I was sticking to what Bajaj/KTM mentioned as per the manual and used to change my RC390 oil at 7500kms. Thank god I did only once though, when I randomly decided to check the oil at approx 5K kms I was shocked to see how bad the oil had gotten, oil had lost it's grade past 4K-5K kms by riding hard. I know a friend changes oil at 3.5K kms

/QUOTE]

The recommended Bajaj branded spec oil for the Dominar is the 10W50 Fully synth from TOTAL.
About service intervals, its not that far fetched, the triple spark combustion actually is to help aid in burning the fuel-air mixture more cleanly, thereby greatly reducing engine deposits. The reason you noticed the oil turning black on your friends bike is not due to a problem with the oil, it is due to a badly adjusted spark plug or some other factor causing improper combustion thereby creating additional carbon deposits, and the oil is actually doing its job of cleaning the engine.

On another note, for me, all oil is oil is oil, and will remain oil. No marketing jargon is going to make me believe otherwise. Its a petroleum product, refined and processed, and put into jars for use by industry. Some have additives to keep hell from freezing over.

I usually stick with Castrol though..

Castrol which one? and what is the cost?

[Indivar]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

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Castrol which one? and what is the cost?

For my old bajaj, i think its regular castrol synth 20w50, but my mechanic knows better. I never really bothered.
For the Dominar, i stick to the recommended brand. TOTAL in this case. As other users here will agree, its good enough. As long as you stick to the recommended grade, not the brand, the bike will be fine.

[Akash.Yadav]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

I see a lot of confusion and no conclusion about the engine oil to be used.
I'll simplify it - If you want to stick to the manufacturer recommendations then Total-Bajaj oil should do good. It's just that the interval sounds stupid and should be changed every 4000-5000 kms depending on the area you live in and the kind of riding you do. More aggressive, more frequently the oil change should happen.

Motul 7100 10W50 should do the job too with ease since the grade is same as Bajaj recommendation.

You can even try Shell 15W50 and it will more or less give the same output or even better.

I usually stay with Bajaj oil if I've done fewer kms than the schedule or if it is under warranty.

When I took my 220, I changed the oil to Motul 5100 after 1st service was done with Bajaj oil. It is a good enough oil for run-in and turn out to be cheaper to change more frequently than the other BIG brand oils.

I'm running Shell Full Synthetic in my 220 and it does a sweet job.

[kiran2508]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

Here is the source from Dominar manual guys.

THis is the Pic from my Owners manual. While purchasing the bike i was told it is Total company oil specially made for D400

Thanks for this to clear the confusion.

So conclusion, Bajaj has 3 oils sourced from different different brands which leads to this confusion.
HPCL, GULF, TOTAL. Where HPCL and GULF are mineral oils, TOTAL is fully synthetic.

GULF


HPCL


TOTAL

I see a lot of confusion and no conclusion about the engine oil to be used.
I'll simplify it - If you want to stick to the manufacturer recommendations then Total-Bajaj oil should do good

Exactly, this has been discussed couple of times already on this thread.
It totally depends on one's usage and his riding style how hard/smooth he/she rides, location if very hot or very cold areas, and if one is willing to spend on oils at short change intervals.

Only suggestion is to try out all available options one by one and see if they felt any difference, and stick to whichever satisfies the user.

Good day

[ginzon]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

Hi,

I believe its mainly due to up and down motion of the chain at that speed , as upwards of certain speeds, the chain movement becomes more.
In my case the sound comes at around 50+ stays there untill you slow down.
Make sure that you tighten the chain also
Hope this helps!

Thanks a lot.. I've ceased using my Dominar, once I get my Motul C1 & C2 delivered to me I'll get it done.. Will walk-in to the service station then to get it tightened as well..

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Thanks for this to clear the confusion.

So conclusion, Bajaj has 3 oils sourced from different different brands which leads to this confusion.
HPCL, GULF, TOTAL. Where HPCL and GULF are mineral oils, TOTAL is fully synthetic.

GULF
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HPCL
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TOTAL
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Exactly, this has been discussed couple of times already on this thread.
It totally depends on one's usage and his riding style how hard/smooth he/she rides, location if very hot or very cold areas, and if one is willing to spend on oils at short change intervals.

Only suggestion is to try out all available options one by one and see if they felt any difference, and stick to whichever satisfies the user.

Good day

Well I use Motul 7100 10w50 JASO MA2/API SN... Will be changing the oil at every servicing i.e. 5000km (As I'm not sure how long does this oil go and I'm ok to spend)..

[bharatbatham]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

Thanks a lot.. I've ceased using my Dominar, once I get my Motul C1 & C2 delivered to me I'll get it done.. Will walk-in to the service station then to get it tightened as well..

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Well I use Motul 7100 10w50 JASO MA2/API SN... Will be changing the oil at every servicing i.e. 5000km (As I'm not sure how long does this oil go and I'm ok to spend)..

Guys i read somewhere that if you are not using Bajaj engine oil then ur warranty stands void. Any comments.

[Kshah]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

One of my classmate is working (technical side) with total and according to him, any synthetic oil in any 2 / 4 wheeler need not to be changed before 10000 Kms. Ideally it should last much longer because synthetic oil molecules do not shear as easily as mineral oils and it retains its viscosity over high temperature range, even beyond recommended range of temperature.

Since I have not used bike for 13 years (still not bought dominar - waiting for 2019 - Euro 6 version) , in car he was right, oil though it turned dark, viscosity and oiliness is not lost even at 10000 Kms.

[faysal_khan]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

One of my classmate is working (technical side) with total and according to him, any synthetic oil in any 2 / 4 wheeler need not to be changed before 10000 Kms. Ideally it should last much longer because synthetic oil molecules do not shear as easily as mineral oils and it retains its viscosity over high temperature range, even beyond recommended range of temperature.

Since I have not used bike for 13 years (still not bought dominar - waiting for 2019 - Euro 6 version) , in car he was right, oil though it turned dark, viscosity and oiliness is not lost even at 10000 Kms.

When u talk about synthetic oil in cars. I know they lasts really long. I have vento petrol and oil needs to be changed every 15k kms. Even when i am done 15k the oil still retain its almost original colour. I kid you not. But in diesel it may change to black.

[Akash.Yadav]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

One of my classmate is working (technical side) with total and according to him, any synthetic oil in any 2 / 4 wheeler need not to be changed before 10000 Kms. Ideally it should last much longer because synthetic oil molecules do not shear as easily as mineral oils and it retains its viscosity over high temperature range, even beyond recommended range of temperature.

Since I have not used bike for 13 years (still not bought dominar - waiting for 2019 - Euro 6 version) , in car he was right, oil though it turned dark, viscosity and oiliness is not lost even at 10000 Kms.

For 2 wheelers, there is a hell lot going on with our tiny engines when compared to the cars.
It is very stressful for the engine, especially in our beautiful road conditions. I've been using Shell Full Synthetic in my 220 and although it still runs nicely(2000 kms but 7 months old), the colour has changed to black already.
How do I know it is working good - engine heats up less and fuel efficiency still remains good. Plus gear shifts are smoother than it was on Motul.

[ginzon]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

Guys i read somewhere that if you are not using Bajaj engine oil then ur warranty stands void. Any comments.

I have seen those kind of discussions here in this thread too, but where is it written to use only by Bajaj.. Check, even their manual says "Oil Grade" and not brand..

[thumpmeister]

Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

a. Bought Roots Smartone horns and it's direct fit with the wire it comes within the box. Do we need a relay? If we are using without the relay will it affect the battery/wirings?

e. Thanks a ton..

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price hike and features that will be enhanced didn't attract me, at that point in time.

Moreover, rumors of launching the bike in Diwali was not out when I bought the bike on 10th Oct'18 or else I might have given a thought.

Fair enough. So how is the bike?