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**Rtrlover83** · 10-02-2011, 07:16 PM

@whiteknight
Hey Buddy, that's good news. In my case, I don't have grip problems with stock tires whatsoever at least on dry tarmac. But I have tried nitrogen too. I don't know about any grip improvement, but the benefits I've heard is that an increase in ride comfort, handling and the tires not getting hot on long runs there by reducing wear, and of course the time gap between fills would be 1-2 months.

The fact that i reverted to normal air is because the guy at the filling station couldn't fill in exact pressures 25/30psi. It exceeded like 4-6 psi's on both tires. I don't know if that's the case in every filling station (so, i couldn't experience the benefits while using nitrogen). If i could find a place which could fill in precisely, will go for it.

How was it when you filled nitrogen? You got the right pressures?

**Rtrlover83** · 10-02-2011, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by ojakuls View Post

Currently the engine oil used by TVS Service was 10w-30 multigrade semi-synthetic oil. But when i checked it out, I found that in USA 10W-30 oil for cars is used where the region is extremely cold, for cold-start of vehicals.
We have a cold region but in North India.
Rest of India we can use oil grade of 20W-40 fully synthetic oil or 20W-50 Fully-synthetic;JASO MA2(Recommended for Wet-type clutch).

Additional information welcomed, if any mistakes found can be corrected.

I am going to service my RTR in a weeks time. Going to change my spark-plug from the stock one to NGK Iridium IX.
Please suggest more....

Bro, TVS Tru4 Premium 10W30 is a semi-synthetic 4T oil developed by TVS exclusively for 4 stroke bikes. Just for your info, 10W30 is the grade used by Hero Honda on their bikes. OK, so this grade is used in bikes too. AFAIK, fully synthetic 4T oils are not available in 20W40, 20W50 grades. FS oils come in 5W40, 10W40, 10W50 & 15W50 grades. You'll get good quality mineral oils and some with synthetic blends in 10W30, 10W40, 20W40, 15W50 & 20W50 grades from Elf, Gulf, Motul, Shell, Valvoline, etc., in addition to Tru4.

Yes, what you've said is right, W40, W50 grades are ideal for hot Indian conditions

**kantu** · 10-02-2011, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by whiteknight View Post

Had a lot of problem with TVS tyres. But recently found a decent solution to it. all The riders who feel there RTR skids a lot go for nitrogen air. i have been using Nitrogen gas in my tires for almost a month results are pretty impressive the grip is increased. Rs.10 per tire is not at all a bad deal. air pressure doent need to be refilled about a month or more.

That s all in mind , if you think it will stick to road it will if you think it will skid it will skid. Some times all it needs for a head ache is a shot from the doc with water.

**pranav_salieri** · 10-02-2011, 11:23 PM

@drifty

1.allen bolts what is that??? and how do i remove the clamp???

2.can you elaborate about the tank thing??? i checked the whole tank seems to be okay....

now i have another problem....the chain is getting rusted is it a big problem??? only a few links are slightly rusted.ill post the pic.

every 1000 kms we have to lube the chain right???

**kantu** · 10-02-2011, 11:37 PM

^^^
Lubricate the chain whenever its dry not necesarily 1k kms.lil bit rust is ok considering the heavy rains ion recent times in blore.
Allen Bolts are the 2 bolts next to rtr logo, you need to have proper tools to remove that its not in default tool kit.

**Drifty** · 10-03-2011, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

tires not getting hot on long runs there by reducing wear, and of course the time gap between fills would be 1-2 months.

These are the only reasons for using nitrogen in tyres,reducing wear means increase in tyre life,as nitrogen is lighter than air it helps the tyres keep cooler in warm conditions.Infact if the tyres run on nitrogen,it should decrease the levels of grip as temperature is directly proportional to the grip of the tyre.Tyres gripping well with nitrogen is just your belief.

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

@drifty

1.allen bolts what is that??? and how do i remove the clamp???

2.can you elaborate about the tank thing??? i checked the whole tank seems to be okay....

now i have another problem....the chain is getting rusted is it a big problem??? only a few links are slightly rusted.ill post the pic.

every 1000 kms we have to lube the chain right???

1)We have a friend called GOOGLE,please use it as much as you can!Please check the source of the sound whether its from fairing,or clamp or key lock.Get it checked from your mech.
2)First of all,is your tank really leaking?or you want it to 'leak'?
3)Spray WD-40 on the rusted part.Clean the chain properly with deisel/kerosense and then lube it with chain spray or any thick oil,SAE 90 will do.Chain must be lubed after every 500kms for longer life.I lube the chain every 250-300kms.Lubing the chain frequently will never harm.

**Krish1417** · 10-03-2011, 01:54 AM

Where is the timing chain located?Does it need to be adjusted?

**Rtrlover83** · 10-03-2011, 06:14 AM

@Drifty
Thanks a lot Bro for the insight

**whiteknight** · 10-03-2011, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

@whiteknight
Hey Buddy, that's good news. In my case, I don't have grip problems with stock tires whatsoever at least on dry tarmac. But I have tried nitrogen too. I don't know about any grip improvement, but the benefits I've heard is that an increase in ride comfort, handling and the tires not getting hot on long runs there by reducing wear, and of course the time gap between fills would be 1-2 months.

The fact that i reverted to normal air is because the guy at the filling station couldn't fill in exact pressures 25/30psi. It exceeded like 4-6 psi's on both tires. I don't know if that's the case in every filling station (so, i couldn't experience the benefits while using nitrogen). If i could find a place which could fill in precisely, will go for it.

How was it when you filled nitrogen? You got the right pressures?

i filled nitrogen gas from a petrol pump who had a tire delarship so it used to deal in tires for cars specially and bikes too. so i seen the machine used to fill nitrogen. it was totally digital with some kind of timer.
speaking of grip take any tire for instance hard braking will cause but upto an extent then it skids further. no tire will give zero skid grip it will cause the rider thrown of the bike. i used to skid even at low speeds when i used to run on noramal air. but after i switched to nitrogen i really have to break hard to skid. e.g yesterday i was riding at 85+ then i hit the breaks but normal skiding but controllable. but when i used to do it on normal air it used to skid like hell. i have devolped confidence on leaning on the bike and now i also known properly how to brake from high speed and on rain i didn't overdo my bike on speed. but it used to skid but not madly

**Abhii46** · 10-03-2011, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by whiteknight View Post

i used to skid even at low speeds when i used to run on noramal air. but after i switched to nitrogen i really have to break hard to skid. e.g yesterday i was riding at 85+ then i hit the breaks but normal skiding but controllable. but when i used to do it on normal air it used to skid like hell.

Try progressive braking.

**Rtrlover83** · 10-03-2011, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by whiteknight View Post

i filled nitrogen gas from a petrol pump who had a tire delarship so it used to deal in tires for cars specially and bikes too. so i seen the machine used to fill nitrogen. it was totally digital with some kind of timer.
speaking of grip take any tire for instance hard braking will cause but upto an extent then it skids further. no tire will give zero skid grip it will cause the rider thrown of the bike. i used to skid even at low speeds when i used to run on noramal air. but after i switched to nitrogen i really have to break hard to skid. e.g yesterday i was riding at 85+ then i hit the breaks but normal skiding but controllable. but when i used to do it on normal air it used to skid like hell. i have devolped confidence on leaning on the bike and now i also known properly how to brake from high speed and on rain i didn't overdo my bike on speed. but it used to skid but not madly

Thanks for the update Bro. So the grip improvement you was talking about was under hard braking. Okie, actually i too experienced this difference when i used nitrogen for 2 days. Seems weird, but i think it's true

I went to a tire dealer who had this nitrogen generator. They too had the same equipment as you've said. But the psi got was much more than what was required (it was difficult for the guy to fill in 25/30psi).
Anyways, happy that you are satisfied very much with using nitrogen.

**Garry_Menace** · 10-03-2011, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by whiteknight View Post

i filled nitrogen gas from a petrol pump who had a tire delarship so it used to deal in tires for cars specially and bikes too. so i seen the machine used to fill nitrogen. it was totally digital with some kind of timer.
speaking of grip take any tire for instance hard braking will cause but upto an extent then it skids further. no tire will give zero skid grip it will cause the rider thrown of the bike. i used to skid even at low speeds when i used to run on noramal air. but after i switched to nitrogen i really have to break hard to skid. e.g yesterday i was riding at 85+ then i hit the breaks but normal skiding but controllable. but when i used to do it on normal air it used to skid like hell. i have devolped confidence on leaning on the bike and now i also known properly how to brake from high speed and on rain i didn't overdo my bike on speed. but it used to skid but not madly

IMO, filling nitrogen noways increases the grip of the rubber.

The reason behind your experience of more skidding with normal air could be the fact that with normal air, the pressure increases quite a bit frequently and as its consequences, the tyre grip reduces because of less contact patch between the rubber and the tarmac. So, the ultimate reason is the pressure change, not the internal composition of air.

**saipranav** · 10-03-2011, 01:27 PM

@all
The TVS Engineer came today and said he will check my electricals and mechanical prt from the scratch and find out the problem, i asked him to check the TCI and he immidiately installed a new TCI and asked me to have a test ride... i went for a test ride and the problem was still there... i informed him about it and he said he thinks the problem is with some other part and asked for 2 days time to source that part.
I also mentioned him about the compression ratio and he said he will check all the mechanical stuff after getting the part.

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

Mention not, bro

@Saipranav

May "she" get well soon

thx man

**muhammedsalimp** · 10-03-2011, 06:18 PM

I was planning to give my bike for first service tomorrow..
just remembered that the SVC guys had told to call and book service .
Gave a call and they said they have bookings up to 14th of this month and can be taken only on 15th

Also lots of leaves coming in between..
My bike has clocked only 460kms till now..
But by 15th it would have run about 650-750 kms ..

Guys.. Is that Okay ? Do I need to take any additional care in this case ?

BTW I have noticed a small jerking from handle bars whenever front brake is applied or whenever I pass a small pothole on road..

I was planning to bring this matter to notice during first service..
What could be the issue

Does this require immediate attention ?

**abhishekch** · 10-03-2011, 07:31 PM

some pics

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