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**Rtrlover83** · 09-26-2012, 08:07 PM

@jsg
Well said about proper run-in procedure of a new motorcycle engine.
@all
Changed engine oil today. Poured in Shell Advance AX7 10W40. Cost 341 INR.

**vishnu.leo** · 09-26-2012, 08:39 PM

i think the mileage im getting now is too low after that 2nd service(no oil change coz i changed the oil recently)...but the bike is abnormally smooth(comparatively less vibrations, smoother gear shifts)....
any ideas what could be the cause of the mileage drop?
P.S.
my usual cruise speed is about 55-60 just occasional bursts of speed(not much)

CF treatment stage 1

**madhav766** · 09-26-2012, 10:07 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by vishnu.leo View Post

i think the mileage im getting now is too low after that 2nd service(no oil change coz i changed the oil recently)...but the bike is abnormally smooth(comparatively less vibrations, smoother gear shifts)....
any ideas what could be the cause of the mileage drop?
P.S.
my usual cruise speed is about 55-60 just occasional bursts of speed(not much)

CF treatment stage 1
[ATTACH=CONFIG]81676[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]81677[/ATTACH]

Ohhh my god Vishnu!! Wow man! That looks hot! Does it stay on the silencer?? Doesn't it peel off due to heat??

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**vishnu.leo** · 09-27-2012, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

Ohhh my god Vishnu!! Wow man! That looks hot! Does it stay on the silencer?? Doesn't it peel off due to heat??

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not yet...and i guess it wont peel off atleast not due to the heat...coz its on the shield and that part doesnt heat up as much as the exhaust( the monster decal i had on the exhaust is now textured--:P heat )

**madhav766** · 09-27-2012, 08:48 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Daamn!

Is it real cf? Our faux cf? Or texture?

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**jsg** · 09-27-2012, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

@jsg
Well said about proper run-in procedure of a new motorcycle engine.
@all
Changed engine oil today. Poured in Shell Advance AX7 10W40. Cost 341 INR.

Bro even my bike has approached the time for an oil change.

. Has run a very very satisfying 4500kms with Motul SS 15w50. Yet I'm in a dilemma. Maybe I will go for Valvoline SS 20w40 this time, simply for the fact that I won't be touring much for the coming few months and so I need the engine revs rather than less engine temperature.

Edit:

Originally posted by vishnu.leo View Post

i think the mileage im getting now is too low after that 2nd service(no oil change coz i changed the oil recently)...but the bike is abnormally smooth(comparatively less vibrations, smoother gear shifts)....

Originally posted by vishnu.leo View Post

any ideas what could be the cause of the mileage drop?
P.S.
my usual cruise speed is about 55-60 just occasional bursts of speed(not much)

Vishnu bhai, i just have a feeling that you are running rich. I was having the same problem of low mileage and super smooth engine [if you remember

]

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

Understood, will not make back to back posts. Im sorry about that, but tapatalk didn't let me edit my first one fully so made second post. Will not do it again. And thanks a ton for the break in information! Really needed that input. But I had no idea it took as long as 5k kms for the engine to set fully.

1000kms is no magic odo at which the engine gets set

That is exactly why mineral oils should be used atleast till first 5000kms.

**madhav766** · 09-27-2012, 09:03 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by jsg View Post

Bro even my bike has approached the time for an oil change.

. Has run a very very satisfying 4500kms with Motul SS 15w50. Yet I'm in a dilemma. Maybe I will go for Valvoline SS 20w40 this time, simply for the fact that I won't be touring much for the coming few months and so I need the engine revs rather than less engine temperature.

Edit:

Vishnu bhai, i just have a feeling that you are running rich. I was having the same problem of low mileage and super smooth engine [if you remember

]

1000kms is no magic odo at which the engine gets set

That is exactly why mineral oils should be used atleast till first 5000kms.

Yeah.. I guess so. Ever since you said that max gear shifts will help in proper break in, I've been in a fix. Most of my riding is on the highway. Of the 35km I clock daily, 26 are on the highway. How do I solve the gear shiftin problem??

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**vishnu.leo** · 09-27-2012, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by jsg View Post

Vishnu bhai, i just have a feeling that you are running rich. I was having the same problem of low mileage and super smooth engine [if you remember

]

yea i do remember that. i better show the bike at the kochi SVC on saturday. m going home for the weeknd

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

Daamn!

Is it real cf? Our faux cf? Or texture?
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real CF??? if i had that kind of money i would have readily gone in for a total perfomance upgrade on my bike :P
btw its kind of the same stuff as on the new plastic parts but on a sticker form :P 40 bucks per sq feet

**madhav766** · 09-27-2012, 09:29 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by vishnu.leo View Post

yea i do remember that. i better show the bike at the kochi SVC on saturday. m going home for the weeknd

real CF??? if i had that kind of money i would have readily gone in for a total perfomance upgrade on my bike :P
btw its kind of the same stuff as on the new plastic parts but on a sticker form :P 40 bucks per sq feet

Haha... 40bucks huh? You buy that stuff from where exactly? What sorta shop man?
Also, can anybody throw some light on why people go for dc conversions? Does dc give some sort of advantage,?
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**prateek2210** · 09-27-2012, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

Also, can anybody throw some light on why people go for dc conversions? Does dc give some sort of advantage,?
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But yours is already DC

Quoting a para from FAQs, I guess you missed it

Headlight
RTR 180 (old) has got 35w Halogen bulb (Halonix Brand) and works on 9a.h 12v battery with AC supply. You can use bulbs from Osram or Philips of 35w instead of stock bulb.
Now coming to HIDs and Projectors-
First of all let me make it clear any HID above 4300k is illegal. Most of the cops must not know it so most users have a set up more than that, and that includes me too. The proof of illegality is Chandigarh police, try roaming around with HIDs on and they will treat you :P
Old RTR needs to be converted into DC supply first to use HIDs and Projectors for day long, if not be ready to get new battery every then and now. For help visit this link

**madhav766** · 09-27-2012, 10:14 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

But yours is already DC

Quoting a para from FAQs, I guess you missed it

So basically dc conversion is only for hid? My bike has ac setup!

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**me is rossi** · 09-27-2012, 10:15 PM

is scarily fast?

darr lagta hai? :P

**prateek2210** · 09-27-2012, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

So basically dc conversion is only for hid? My bike has ac setup!

Ain't the new RTR DC?? It is if I know correct

Originally posted by me is rossi View Post

is scarily fast?

darr lagta hai? :P

Was that a OT??

**lijok** · 09-27-2012, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

Also, can anybody throw some light on why people go for dc conversions? Does dc give some sort of advantage,?

DC lighting means you have constant flicker free lighting. You need a working battery for DC lighting to work(Like in cars). An AC/DC setup uses AC electricals for lighting and lights work only once the engine is running, battery is not mandatory.
Also, HID needs DC electricals to work (not that it cannot be used in AC/DC setup, but like someone said, you'll need to replace the battery every now and then).

There is a dedicated thread for DC conversion of the RTR180 (classic

), and I'm running a DC RTR180 for quite some time now. Its a little bit tricky, and if you dont really spend time on it and understand the stock and the changed setups, it could land you in hot water if something goes wrong. (Nothing has gone wrong for me yet, still going solid strong, running 55W HID

)

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

Ain't the new RTR DC?? It is if I know correct

The 180 ABS is full DC, but still uses 35W H/L lamps

**madhav766** · 09-27-2012, 11:23 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by lijok View Post

DC lighting means you have constant flicker free lighting. You need a working battery for DC lighting to work(Like in cars). An AC/DC setup uses AC electricals for lighting and lights work only once the engine is running, battery is not mandatory.
Also, HID needs DC electricals to work (not that it cannot be used in AC/DC setup, but like someone said, you'll need to replace the battery every now and then).

There is a dedicated thread for DC conversion of the RTR180 (classic

), and I'm running a DC RTR180 for quite some time now. Its a little bit tricky, and if you dont really spend time on it and understand the stock and the changed setups, it could land you in hot water if something goes wrong. (Nothing has gone wrong for me yet, still going solid strong, running 55W HID

)

The 180 ABS is full DC, but still uses 35W H/L lamps

Yup. Checked the owners manual. Says dc. Sorry for the mistake!! I want to change the head lamp to a different color. The beast eyes n the head lamp don't go.

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