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**shahbaz63** · 02-20-2013, 01:39 PM

21,000 km & only 1 Major & 3 minor puncture all in rear tyre ....

**ashwinprakas** · 02-20-2013, 01:46 PM

Since you're talking about tires I would like to share one experience, during my Pondy trip my RTR ABS friend was leading since it was past 12 and I'm close to blind. We were doing a steady 100~110k when suddenly a Tata Indica came out of nowhere without indicators and cut us off, we both jammed the brakes, my ZMA lost traction at rear but was slowing down in a straight line, but the RTR completely lost traction at rear and after a few spins came to a halt under a tree, he was lucky, cause I thought he would wreck into the tree, we double checked and the ABS was on, yet this happened, so we concluded that it might've been the rear tire at fault, he's going in for a change soon and currently thinking of the Vertigo.

**aditya_iyer** · 02-20-2013, 02:30 PM

new apache (2012) ownership response

I dont know whether i should post this query here but if i am allowed then i would like to know about the ownership experience & response for the new Apache 180 & 160 rtr (2012) and about Pune SVC as i want to buy one.thank you

**Prithvi R** · 02-20-2013, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Since you're talking about tires I would like to share one experience, during my Pondy trip my RTR ABS friend was leading since it was past 12 and I'm close to blind. We were doing a steady 100~110k when suddenly a Tata Indica came out of nowhere without indicators and cut us off, we both jammed the brakes, my ZMA lost traction at rear but was slowing down in a straight line, but the RTR completely lost traction at rear and after a few spins came to a halt under a tree, he was lucky, cause I thought he would wreck into the tree, we double checked and the ABS was on, yet this happened, so we concluded that it might've been the rear tire at fault, he's going in for a change soon and currently thinking of the Vertigo.

My Goodness, even the ABS? Oh boy!

Do you know about his rear tyre pressure by any chance?

**ashwinprakas** · 02-20-2013, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Prithvi R View Post

My Goodness, even the ABS? Oh boy!

Do you know about his rear tyre pressure by any chance?

The tire pressure on both bikes were according to manufacturer spec. His was normal air and mine nitrogen. The only other info I know is that his ODO is close to15k and his front tire is new cause the previous one developed tears and he had it replaced.

**shahbaz63** · 02-20-2013, 04:39 PM

never had any issue related to ABS yet... had been braking like crazy all the time but always getting steady stop.

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Since you're talking about tires I would like to share one experience, during my Pondy trip my RTR ABS friend was leading since it was past 12 and I'm close to blind. We were doing a steady 100~110k when suddenly a Tata Indica came out of nowhere without indicators and cut us off, we both jammed the brakes, my ZMA lost traction at rear but was slowing down in a straight line, but the RTR completely lost traction at rear and after a few spins came to a halt under a tree, he was lucky, cause I thought he would wreck into the tree, we double checked and the ABS was on, yet this happened, so we concluded that it might've been the rear tire at fault, he's going in for a change soon and currently thinking of the Vertigo.

**Devesh** · 02-20-2013, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

130kph is a good top speed for RTR 180 ... yes it can go til 140kp/h on ODO but that need slope & strong wind support & atleast 3-5 km stretch ...

But 130 itself is a good top end...

today i tried to go beyond 130 and my gosh it went till 132
redlined in every gear
its a 1.9 km stretch no wind support
no slopes
will try to clock 135 after a week

Q) Do these types of rides affect the engine health, doing in a week will also effect?

my bike has 2.6k on odo
3rd service pending for next month
any suggestions

**Fear_The_White_Menace** · 02-20-2013, 08:29 PM

Hello Apachians,

On X-BHP after a long time, was busy enjoying my ride.
It has been a year since i got my Apache RTR 180 & the experience has been bliss so far. Clocked 16K kms & getting mileage of around 40 kmpl - 52 kmpl (depending on the riding conditions). The only hiccup is the vibrations that creep in between 4000-5000 RPM

but at times i enjoy the vibrations

(like all of you might have been used to)

Coming to my concern, recently visited the A.S.S for regular servicing & was shocked to hear from the mechanic that my bike might have got some engine problems & the engine would have to be checked in the coming months.
There sure was some tickling sound while starting the bike as he showed to me.
But i am perplexed, how can a bike get some engine problems in just a year & 16K kms??
Can the experts here please help me out?
I am quite worried regarding the health of my bike.

I hope i haven't screwed up the bike due to my rash riding habits

Please help me(SOS). Waiting for you replies.

Born Again Apachian,
Fear_The_White_Menace

**shahbaz63** · 02-20-2013, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Devesh View Post

today i tried to go beyond 130 and my gosh it went till 132
redlined in every gear
its a 1.9 km stretch no wind support
no slopes
will try to clock 135 after a week

Q) Do these types of rides affect the engine health, doing in a week will also effect?

my bike has 2.6k on odo
3rd service pending for next month
any suggestions

Well, red lining hurts engine once in a month or twice is fine but if you will keep it in red line then it will surely hurt your bikes engine ... may be you can read the post below you for example may be..

Originally posted by Fear_The_White_Menace View Post

Hello Apachians,

On X-BHP after a long time, was busy enjoying my ride.
It has been a year since i got my Apache RTR 180 & the experience has been bliss so far. Clocked 16K kms & getting mileage of around 40 kmpl - 52 kmpl (depending on the riding conditions). The only hiccup is the vibrations that creep in between 4000-5000 RPM

but at times i enjoy the vibrations

(like all of you might have been used to)

Coming to my concern, recently visited the A.S.S for regular servicing & was shocked to hear from the mechanic that my bike might have got some engine problems & the engine would have to be checked in the coming months.
There sure was some tickling sound while starting the bike as he showed to me.
But i am perplexed, how can a bike get some engine problems in just a year & 16K kms??
Can the experts here please help me out?
I am quite worried regarding the health of my bike.

I hope i haven't screwed up the bike due to my rash riding habits

Please help me(SOS). Waiting for you replies.

Born Again Apachian,
Fear_The_White_Menace

Rash Riding says all ... Treat engine like your baby

**Fear_The_White_Menace** · 02-20-2013, 08:54 PM

Yep, but rash riding in this case wasn't red lining it on every given opportunity.
I scarecely used the bike @shahbaz63 & whenever i got onto it i couldn't help but try to enjoy it as much as possible at high speeds.
Can you please help what can be done now & is my engine really screwed up?

**prateek2210** · 02-20-2013, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Fear_The_White_Menace View Post

Yep, but rash riding in this case wasn't red lining it on every given opportunity.
I scarecely used the bike @shahbaz63 & whenever i got onto it i couldn't help but try to enjoy it as much as possible at high speeds.
Can you please help what can be done now & is my engine really screwed up?

Aren't the bold parts contradicting in itself?
Anyways its your bike, we can only tell what can go wrong....and yes I changed my piston in 18k, so its not hard and fast rule that the engine cant have any problems.

Let us know more about the sound that you are getting, so that we can give some views on that

**albyjose** · 02-21-2013, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Maverickk View Post

Guys i just happen to notice some leak/liquid on the fins and i have no idea what is it.

I have attached the images. Please help me and clear my doubt. Kindly forgive me if have attached the images incorrectly as i am beginner to this stuff.

I have exactly this issue.Oil is leaking from fins,near the head on left side.Seems like a common issue for rtr?
Although not leaking enough to drop the oil level.Fins stay wet all the time,thats all.
Gasket is to blame?Is it ok to leave it as it is?I think only more problem will start if someone opens the head.

**prateek2210** · 02-21-2013, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by albyjose View Post

I have exactly this issue.Oil is leaking from fins,near the head on left side.Seems like a common issue for rtr?
Although not leaking enough to drop the oil level.Fins stay wet all the time,thats all.Gasket is to blame?Is it ok to leave it as it is?I think only more problem will start if someone opens the head.

Gasket needs to be changed, and sealed properly......

**ashwinprakas** · 02-21-2013, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by albyjose View Post

I have exactly this issue.Oil is leaking from fins,near the head on left side.Seems like a common issue for rtr?
Although not leaking enough to drop the oil level.Fins stay wet all the time,thats all.
Gasket is to blame?Is it ok to leave it as it is?I think only more problem will start if someone opens the head.

Looks like a head gasket leak. Common with Pulsars, try using Fevibond for the time being. When you feel like it change the gasket. Opening head wont cause any issues.

**evyavan** · 02-21-2013, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

Most of the RTR owners here were happy with the 'age limit' of the tyres (minus the wet grip).

I concur with the wet grip.

And 28/32? Isnt that a bit over?

@aswin: Man, ABS cannot help you if you are in a turn or in lean position. I'm saying this because I know my ride came to safe and short halts from speeds above 110, while saving mine and others' lives.

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