Thanks for you inputs guys. I think the duel between the R15 and RTR is settled as of now...

The only bike that seems to be interesting in coming days is the KTM 200! CBR has got lukewarm response from the biker janta. Yes, a grown up Karizma it is, but then Karizma is no slouch either. I enjoy riding it. It's fun, isn't it? I think CBR is near-perfect for our road conditions/requirements. Why do you guys bash the poor 250 I don't understand?

Let's not get off-topic though. I need a little bit of help from all you guys. We guys have had almost 900 pages discussing issues with our bikes. Can we all just sum-up the expenses so far put on the bike? Like a true ownership report. Note that, big-bore kit or any modifications is not under the expenses. I want to know about a stock bike only.

Here I start first,

Kilometers done- 23k

Time since purchase: 2 years and 4 months.

Parts changed/replaced:

One way clutch- Rs.2700 ( under warranty)

Silencer- Replaced under warranty and I was told it was for Rs. 5000.

Brake pads: 3xRear pads (350 each)= Rs. 1050
2xFront pads(350 each)= Rs. 700

Rear disc plate- Rs. 900. (True?)

Throttle cable for 200 bucks.

Tyre change at 12 k kilometeres- Rs.1600 (only rear)

Battery for Rs. 1700.

Lets take 500 bucks for each service in every 3 months. This will include Air filter/oil filter change also. Makes it a total of Rs.4500 (for 27 months).

Lets tot-up the totals (not including the parts replaced under warranty),

1050+700+900+200+1600+1700+4500= Rs. 10, 650.

Pending issues: Chain-set and cone-set.

The bike still flies from standstill and 3.7-4.0 is still achievable on the 0-60kph recorder. Top speed of 135kph has just been reached as well. That means, it hasn't lost much in terms of performance.

Going by the prices above, I don't think RTR is an expensive bike to maintain against the common belief of many. Or, is it?

PS: Many of the plastic and metal parts have been replaced in my bike. But that's after accident or came under insurance. I have not included them. Also, I have done all the calculations in round figures, just to make it easy. Plus,minus, a few hundreds is no big deal.

@ newguy nicely done mate! u really had the will to ride down till there to get ur bike completely done liked the way u have written it all down too!!

@ shivank
here is my list..

date of purchase : nov 2009

kilometers done : 12k

parts changed / maintainance:

one way clutch ( done under warranty )

right side footpeg * 3 ( wont include as these were due to accidents)

front fairing, wheel allignment, front mudguard, brake lever ( wont include as these were due to an accident )

rear tyre puncture ( dunno if i should include this )

if we calculate the services for every 3 months @ 500 each then it comes out around 4000 bucks.
but i had dumped tvs svc after 5 free services and went to the trusty local mech

things to be changed :
put a choke cable as mine had gone kaput and the mech had removed it
change spark plug
change/ check disc pad wear
check cone set
battery ( doing fine for now )
tires : will do for the next 5-6 k (atleast)

all in all mine came out to be quite less in the past 2 years..
yeah u can take into consideration that i haven't ridden much!
i am not including the times when i had to spend when a friend of mine crashed my bike
anyways i guess i'll have to change some parts from now starting from the spark plug!

EDIT :
best mileage: 48
worst mileage: 32
average mileage : 40-45
top speed attained yet: 130

shivank- dont you think that zmr has also met with lukewarm response..r15's,apaches,pulsars are still selling like hotcakes....

my owenershipship experience-

12 months and 11 days

KMS DONE-8109

parts changed:-
parts changed underwarranty
starter unit
bore and crankshaft

TCi unit-900
carburattor diaphram- 450
spark plug-120 bucks

max speed touched-127 (doubles)
mileage-best-54 KMPL
worst-28.2 KMPL
nowdays getting-35-45 KMPL.

Oh Ok Fine.. Dint know that but i guess its not an appropriate way to drive without using clutch...

kilometers done : 2519

5 months from date of purchase

Parts changed:
fuel sensor (under warranty)

max speed touched= 113
0-60= 4.1sec
mileage-best-45 Kmpl
worst-35 Kmpl
avg -40 Kmpl

Engine oil (currently using) = gluf pride 4t plus 20w40

A very good initiative @shivank! kudos!
This was done once before in this thread by @chicane(see below) When I was waiting to get my RTR,these info were very helpful:

Combining both, template can be:

Time since Purchase:

Colour:

Total kms covered:

Best Mileage:

Worst Mileage:

Overall Mileage(on normal daily riding):

Max speed attained:

Parts changed/replaced:

Problems resolved:

Pending Issues:

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My ride is only 2 Months old, but still, here I go:

Time since Purchase: 2 Months

Colour: Pearl white

Total kms covered: 1510

Best Mileage: 52

Worst Mileage: 40

Overall Mileage(on normal daily riding): 44

Max speed attained: 95

Parts changed/replaced: Fuel tank replaced due to leakage (under warranty)

Problems resolved: persistant screeching sound due to throttle cable rubbing against tank (re-routed it), starting problem in morning (followed methods in this thread, now bike starts in 1st kick, 100% time!)

Pending Issues: -

Not a problem. I have learnt this from here only. Clutchless shifts are appropriate unless you are doing it inappropriately. Even in the process of learning, you will hear weird noises out of the tranny. That's why you think it's inappropriate. Once you get hang, it is as smooth as silk.

The problem with ZMR is its pricing. Don't you think? It is in the R15 territory rather than competing with desi-mates P220s/RTR180. That's a disaster.

I would buy the R15 without second thoughts if I had to pay near same money for the ZMR (earlier I would consider it for once but now with V2.0. Never!). It comes with technology, but as an overall package it is a bit....bland for many.

@ Sid137, Pranav, Rak2410, Viscmad, Vineshp. Thanks for your inputs...

@ Vineshp

I wanted to know more about ownership costs this time. Hence, added a few more points to what has already been discussed. Thanks again, for the add-ons to the current list.

@New Guy - great write up bro...

Time since Purchase:17months

Colour: pearl white

Total kms covered:9100

Best Mileage:53

Worst Mileage:31

Overall Mileage(on normal daily riding):40-45

Max speed attained:127

Parts changed/replaced:spark plug

Problems resolved:none

Pending Issues:none

Big bore+ffe review

Thanks to everyone for appreciating my amateurish efforts at review of the Big Bore and FFE.

Another Update. Of late had notices that the rear tyre loses air much faster than is normal. This has been going on since I came from Bangalore on 30 th oct. Didn't get the time to check it though and thus Guess was riding on low pressure for about the last 10-12 days. Was getting a FE of 39-40 kpl with pretty good acceleration so didnt think much about it too.

Got the rear tyre checked yesterday and found a puncture. While repairing the puncture the trye repair guy said the brake pad assly has been fitted incorrectly. There is a slot near the axle right side which locates the assly but was fitted above it. This was done when I last got the brake pads cleaned in mumbai. This also made the pedal a bit hard to operate. But again due to lack of time didn't notice it enough.

Anyways I now realise that the FE which I was getting was actually less than what I was supposed to be getting because the brakes were holding the wheel back as well as the punctured tyre.

Lets see what happens now.

Time since Purchase: 28 months

Colour: White

Total kms covered: 33620kms

Best Mileage: 48kmpl

Worst Mileage: 40kmpl

Overall Mileage(on normal daily riding): 40 - 44kmpl

Max speed attained: 134 kmph

Parts changed/replaced: Disc pads(thrice), Disc plates, Clutch Plates, Clutch and throttle wire, Spark Plug, Chain set, Speedometer, Head lamps and tires.

Mods done: FFE and Big Bore

Pending Issues: None.

Why is everyone upgrading just FFE and big bore, what about the other items joel mentioned on his web-site like, bigger carb, cam shaft, and valve...?

cam shaft is not yet available when i asked him

1 Year Short Review RTR 180

Time since Purchase:1 year

Colour: Pearl White

Total kms covered: 8200

Best Mileage: 40

Worst Mileage:30

Overall Mileage(on normal daily riding):32-33 U guys r saying 40-45?!

Max speed attained:133

Parts changed/replaced: Tyres at 8k kms(Reason: Wanted A grippier tyre)

Problems resolved:Lag/hiccups below 4k rpm.(Changed TPS, Got a NGK Iridium Spark plug)

Pending Issues:none

mods done: HID+Projectors+Angel eyes + NGK Iridium Spark plug.

Guys help me out here!.. everyone are saying they r getting 40-45 avg mileage! I am getting only 32-33 !

I shift gears around 6-7k rpm usually.. and i extend it to 8.5k rpm in staright roads!

And I dint exactly stay under 5k rpm within 1000 kms of run in period.. followed it only till 400 kms i guess! Is that The matter?

Time since Purchase:2 yrs,2 mnths (26 months)

Colour: Pearl White

Total kms covered: >31000

Best Mileage: 48

Worst Mileage:36

Overall Mileage(on normal daily riding):40-42

Max speed attained:133

Parts changed/replaced: Rear Tire @ 28k kms. Both side switch assembly(under warranty). both break pads,racer and Chain sprocket at 25k KMs.

Problems resolved:Starter(under warranty)

Pending Issues:Hiccups...

mods done:none...