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  • Paul , I dunno exactly how, but I have also felt this . More so since I shifted to 10w30 last winter and back again to Motul 3000 4T 20w40 this summer, I could easily feel the contrast . It greatly improves clutch engagement, smoothen out the transmission gears, increases compression and keeps engine cooler too . These 4 effects I am sure of since these things are easily feel-able to me .
    To verify this, this winter I shall again shift to 10w30 HeroHonda premium 4T and then to Gulf pride synth 10w30, untill summer comes .

    And with premium petrol (IOCL Xtra premium) my fuel mileage goes up on the first fill(4l) by 2-3 kmpl , then on subsequent fills it goes down by 2-3 kmpl lower than regular unleaded . Someone explain this please .
    Last edited by Pinaki; 08-17-2012, 12:07 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
      Paul , I dunno exactly how, but I have also felt this . More so since I shifted to 10w30 last winter and back again to Motul 3000 4T 20w40 this summer, I could easily feel the contrast . It greatly improves clutch engagement, smoothen out the transmission gears, increases compression and keeps engine cooler too . These 4 effects I am sure of since these things are easily feel-able to me .
      Hmm....now i've to try this too, to see the result myself (will take time ) dunno whether it'll be available in my city. but i'll get it at any cost.
      | SOL 68s | Rynox Tornado Pro | Rynox Advento | Cramster TRG2 | Scoyco MC20 | Hero 5 and SJ6 |

      Adjusting Tappets FZ25 www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhiJGtd_Xigl
      Engine Oil & Oil Filter Change www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AZ5MlXF7dc

      Visit here for more DIY www.youtube.com/c/LifeofPal

      DIY - Foam Air filter Cleaning & Oiling / Horn Repair Guide / Replacing Motorcycle Fork Oil

      Read This Before You Buy Any Halogen Bulb
      Engine Overhaul

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      • @shoeb and paul-it has nothing to do with oil. of course a good engine oil increases performance but not by so much.
        in fact my bike perfomed similar before also on veedol and shell oil. the problem is that for the past 1.5 years my bike was riddled with problem.
        1. when i overhauled the engine i opted for original bore kit. my biggest mistake. from the start it leaked compression, consumed oil and gave innumerable troubles.
        2. rings were changed at 2k after new bore kit.
        3. at 15k after overhaul the piston seized.
        4. the engine was bored but that boring guy made the piston so tight that it took 5k kms to free up.
        5. as the piston freed up the con rod began to make sound. it was because the engine had seized and thus had affected the con rod and also the tight piston after boring further increased the wear.
        6. the engine was opened and con-rod was changed bit we made the mistake of not changing the bore kit.
        7. after 5k kms of changing con rod the engine refused to pull beyond 50 kph. i was completly pissed by then and thought not to repair the bike. but last time i decided to open the bore and check. the bore was opened and we saw the one side of bore was worn because of the previous faulty con rod.
        8. i was not ready to use new OE bore kit as they were crap. my retailer friend gave the news of USHA bore kit and i immediatelly got it.
        After that i got my bikes old performance back.
        @paul- joy has best quality materials by any hero honda. regarding high revs just before 4 days from second engine overhaul my friend and i completed a trip of 210 km. he was on his apache 180 and i on my joy. for thirty km i was constantly at 100 kph. you will be amazed as my mechanic tells that he hasn't seen any other bike like this which runs at full throttle non stop that too without consuming a drop of oil.
        Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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        • Originally posted by sibun View Post
          1. when i overhauled the engine i opted for original bore kit. my biggest mistake. from the start it leaked compression, consumed oil and gave innumerable troubles.
          2. rings were changed at 2k after new bore kit.
          Thank god at least mine OE bore is running fine till now (16k done)
          May be u've got duplicate OE kit coz from where i purchased mine OE bore got caught with fake hero honda parts few months ago. Glad mine to going fine till now.
          But the mistake i done is installed a off market con rod, timing chain, roller, clutch plates as i told u before, i replaced everything with OE except con rod because i thought its better not to mess up with that so let it run as it is, but haven't created any problem. Donno about the future hopefully not


          Originally posted by sibun View Post
          for thirty km i was constantly at 100 kph. you will be amazed as my mechanic tells that he hasn't seen any other bike like this which runs at full throttle non stop that too without consuming a drop of oil.
          oh thats Good, it haven't tried that in my bike, and nor i want to take a risk
          I'll only try once i started earning myself
          | SOL 68s | Rynox Tornado Pro | Rynox Advento | Cramster TRG2 | Scoyco MC20 | Hero 5 and SJ6 |

          Adjusting Tappets FZ25 www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhiJGtd_Xigl
          Engine Oil & Oil Filter Change www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AZ5MlXF7dc

          Visit here for more DIY www.youtube.com/c/LifeofPal

          DIY - Foam Air filter Cleaning & Oiling / Horn Repair Guide / Replacing Motorcycle Fork Oil

          Read This Before You Buy Any Halogen Bulb
          Engine Overhaul

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          • Guys, when we are driving in pouring rain, why does the horn become dull sounding as if it's losing power? What's the cause of this and how can it be rectified?

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            • guys how to avoid white spots after car/bike washing..Is that b'coz too much car shampoo was used

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              • Wipe it off as soon as you wash the bike, don't let it dry by itself.
                That white spots form because you are using hard-water.

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                • Originally posted by gallifrey View Post
                  Guys, when we are driving in pouring rain, why does the horn become dull sounding as if it's losing power? What's the cause of this and how can it be rectified?

                  Sent from my MB855 using Tapatalk 2
                  Your horn clips are loose. Just pinch them using a plier so that they are tight. Your problem will solve.
                  Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
                  Didn't I also tell you about sudden increase in performance of my splendor in a PM earlier???
                  You told it is due to rich mixture,I think it may be due to this oil-MOTUL 3000 4T plus along perfect carburetor tuning and riding habits..

                  All I can say that you have broken-in your joy's engine in the best way possible,tuned the carburetor perfectly..Enjoy it !!!!!

                  I want a TEST RIDE !!!!!!!!!!!,waiting for the day to TD your bike.

                  My splendor(17k kms on odo) is able to do
                  15kmph in 3rd and 20kmph in 4th gear that to at lowest idling RPM.
                  Even in 4th gear it picks-up very smoothly from 10 kmph.
                  This I am noticing from last few months but sudden increase in performance just a week ago so posting it here.

                  Previously(read From 2006 to April 2012) it used to knock at those speeds but now nothing like that now......

                  What has been changed since then(From April 2012) ?
                  -Oil- Motul 3000 4T 20w40.
                  -Carburetor tuned.(sibun's method)
                  -Few long highway runs at 80+kmph (Please note-My splendor is mostly used in city that to at speed less than 40kmph)
                  -New champion spark-plug.
                  -New air-filter.
                  -Proper cleaning of chain done by removing and immersing it in kerosene and then in SAE 90 gear oil overnight.

                  I tuned the carburetor by listening to the sound of the engine where the RPM is maximum.(Followed Sibun's method)

                  A perfectly tuned carburetor will give maximum mileage and power.

                  Can anyone post the gear ratios of splendor ???
                  Regarding run-in, i am famous in my friend circle for running-in new engine. Any friend who buys a new bike, first 500 kms he just gives me to run-in the bike. Just two days prior i completed a run-in of my friends new CBR250.
                  And regarding performance most of the splendor/passion,e.t.c owner never take it to more than 100 kph. So what happens is that gradually the engine feels sluggish. Continuously rip the engine for 2-3 days and you will see that your bike will perform better.
                  Originally posted by paul.1911 View Post
                  Thank god at least mine OE bore is running fine till now (16k done)
                  May be u've got duplicate OE kit coz from where i purchased mine OE bore got caught with fake hero honda parts few months ago. Glad mine to going fine till now.
                  But the mistake i done is installed a off market con rod, timing chain, roller, clutch plates as i told u before, i replaced everything with OE except con rod because i thought its better not to mess up with that so let it run as it is, but haven't created any problem. Donno about the future hopefully not



                  oh thats Good, it haven't tried that in my bike, and nor i want to take a risk
                  I'll only try once i started earning myself
                  No, the bore was not fake. But the piston had manufacturing defect which expanded on heating.
                  And do not try this on your CD-dawn, because except my joy i have never tried on any other bike. Not even on my father splendor+. Its because i do not have the confidence that they can perform.
                  And regarding top speed then 100 kph is not the top speed.
                  Once while testing the top speed the speedo was stuck at 100 kph then for testing purpose i just lied flat on tank. The speedo immediately rose to 110 kph and began flickering from 110 to 115. It was because the bike was hitting rev limiter in fourth gear that too on a 42 teeth sprocket(passion and all other have 43 or more teeth).I shudder to think if 41 teeth sprocket is used then it will reach more speed.
                  After riding at 110 kph for 5 km, i just parked the bike at highway side and sat on the railing shivering thinking about it. After 10 mins i came back to senses and just kissed the bike tank.

                  And regarding those 1.5 years, i faced so much difficulty that i cannot describe. You can say my time was very bad. Almost everywhere worst was happening, be it professional, personal or my bike. Every where there was problem and more problem. You can say that if anyone else would have been then he would have sold the bike. But i am a different person all together. I just go and the more somebody pushes me down i just rise up more and i do not leave. You can say that i am very tough to beat.
                  Regarding the problem in those 1.5 years i will post in separate post as presently i am going to extreme thread as some one is requiring help.
                  Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                  • Guys will the brand of spark plug affect the performance of the bike ..I asked so because when i used bosch performance of my bike reduced i.e power ..and when i used ngk its performance increased..

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                    • Originally posted by harish_gkumar View Post
                      Guys will the brand of spark plug affect the performance of the bike ..I asked so because when i used bosch performance of my bike reduced i.e power ..and when i used ngk its performance increased..
                      Yes u'll feel slight difference in each brand and its each model.
                      | SOL 68s | Rynox Tornado Pro | Rynox Advento | Cramster TRG2 | Scoyco MC20 | Hero 5 and SJ6 |

                      Adjusting Tappets FZ25 www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhiJGtd_Xigl
                      Engine Oil & Oil Filter Change www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AZ5MlXF7dc

                      Visit here for more DIY www.youtube.com/c/LifeofPal

                      DIY - Foam Air filter Cleaning & Oiling / Horn Repair Guide / Replacing Motorcycle Fork Oil

                      Read This Before You Buy Any Halogen Bulb
                      Engine Overhaul

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                      • Between spark-plugs of same Heat Range-not much difference.
                        Different/improper heat range-performance may decrease.

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                        • Why is there no reply in this thread.
                          Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                          • Originally posted by sibun View Post
                            If anyone wants to wax your bike then stop wasting money on imported wax.
                            The best and hardest wax is from waxpol and is really good. It is water repellent and doesn't ever let water to stay on bike.

                            This is the wax coating:-
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                            Where can i find this in mumbai...searched a lots of shops but was unable to find can any 1 ship this to me...wold be really helpful...

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                            • Its a bit difficult to find waxpol hard wax anywhere. You may try in hardware shops (selling paint,polishes, etc).
                              Alternatively, buy it online. Found this site selling this. also available on rediff shopping site but there they charge 50/- extra for shipping. here it seems to be free.
                              Disclaimer - i don't work for this site, nor have i purchased anything from them.

                              Waxpol - Auto Polish - 200gm - Buy Car Care Items at Best Prices | Snapdeal

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                              • Last time around I found it in our local automotive paints shop , i.e the shop from where local car repainters buy their stuff from .

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