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  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    Yes. He he. Absolutely!
    Can understand the fact that the rear ones last longer than the front, but this sounds astronomical to believe.

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    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    Yes. He he. Absolutely!
    Can understand the fact that the rear ones last longer than the front, but this sounds astronomical to believe.
    Stories of the open road...........

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    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Originally posted by phanikar View Post
      Can understand the fact that the rear ones last longer than the front, but this sounds astronomical to believe.
      This very thread has the proof with many pics from time to time. In fact, pads were like 50-60% worn at 52k km. That day, I documented the whole thing in detail on this thread since I was shocked myself.
      I'm on my 5th front pads (replaced before my trip to Jharkhand) and the rear ones still stay.

      Found it - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ml#post1061591
      Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
      Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

      Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
      Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
      ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
      P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        Originally posted by phanikar View Post
        Can understand the fact that the rear ones last longer than the front, but this sounds astronomical to believe.
        "Made in Krypton"

        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
        This very thread has the proof with many pics from time to time. In fact, pads were like 50-60% worn at 52k km. That day, I documented the whole thing in detail on this thread since I was shocked myself.
        I'm on my 5th front pads (replaced before my trip to Jharkhand) and the rear ones still stay.

        Found it - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ml#post1061591
        At 40k , I am running on 5th front and 3rd rear.

        What's the secret ? Tell me how many pairs of shoes you changed in this time ? I can assume you are using leg brakes

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        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
          What's the secret ?
          Frankly speaking, I ride a lot slower than most of us here! Less braking needed.
          Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
          Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

          Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
          Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
          ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
          P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Good news or bad I don't get it yet....EBR has filed for bankruptcy protection and all its 120 employees have been sent back home. This comes after HMC kind of held back after the initial round of funding to EBR.
            Current: Hero Karizma ZMR || Royal Enfield Bullet CI
            Past: Yamaha Enticer


            Ride hard or stay home!!

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            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
              "Made in Krypton"



              At 40k , I am running on 5th front and 3rd rear.

              What's the secret ? Tell me how many pairs of shoes you changed in this time ? I can assume you are using leg brakes


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              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                I feel it is the timings chain that require attention.. replies inline in bold..
                Checked for possible oil leaks. Found none. Even in the air filter box.
                I use shell AX7..

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                ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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                • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                  Checked for possible oil leaks. Found none. Even in the air filter box.
                  I use shell AX7..

                  Sent from my C5502 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                  Small traces of oil in the air filter box is okay. Its the excessive oil blowby. That is by design!
                  Get the timing chain inspected first.


                  Sent from my phone. Kindly avoid it while riding.
                  Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                  Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                  Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                  Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                  ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                  P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    Frankly speaking, I ride a lot slower than most of us here! Less braking needed.
                    Glad to see other riders like me, I too drive slowly without frequent gear changes.
                    Whenever local bikers talk about speed, thrill etc, I start lecturing them on safety and mileage. Tell me if I'm wrong, I think no one can save a lot of time (like 20+ minutes) on a 10 km stretch in a congested metro city by racing (like a maniac). If there are two guys on the same path in a congested city, the faster one would only save around 5 min compared to the slower one. Hence, why to risk it all for a few minutes, it's better to drive safely and cozily! Maybe we will lose a few minutes time, but we would gain peace of mind and a long life ahead.

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                    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                      This very thread has the proof with many pics from time to time. In fact, pads were like 50-60% worn at 52k km. That day, I documented the whole thing in detail on this thread since I was shocked myself.
                      I'm on my 5th front pads (replaced before my trip to Jharkhand) and the rear ones still stay.

                      Found it - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ml#post1061591
                      Even my 7&half yrs old 55k Zma's rear pad is stock, and front pad i don't remember...must be sixth.

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                      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                        Guys need inputs! Following are the indications which i have observed :-

                        1: In any gear, while decelerating, typically at speeds ranging from 30-60kmph, and RPMs lower than 5k, i hear a strange tappet like sound from the engine. The sound is loud and clear and sometimes exceeds the sound of the engine itself. Its not tappet noise, cause that comes too along with this loud sound!
                        2: Does not occur in first few kms of starting. Happens when engine heats up a little.
                        3: Once the sound starts, i ride continously without stopping for 2-3kms. Sound doesn't decrease. Upon stopping, when i remove the helmet to listen, i hear this noice which is way louder than the engine's as mentioned(when idling). During that period, i observed that the sound decreases as and how the RPMs increase.
                        4: Burning smell. Clutch plates are not the cause as they were replaced recently, and the same was confirmed by the mechanic when i insisted him on riding the bike again today.
                        5: Sound had vanished when oil was changed on the next day of it's occurrence, about three months back.
                        I experienced the sound again about 3 days back anz changed the oil today. The sound seems to have slightly decreased but not fully

                        My suspicion lies upon nothing as i have no idea regarding the subject!
                        Need your opinions!



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                        Thats the piston slap as i feel.

                        Timing chain sound will be constant and increase with rev.

                        If the sound is loud when de-accelerating and also increases at idling and decreases on increasing rev it is piston slap and nothing else.

                        Get the engine checked else you are waiting for an engine to seize and con rod developing excessive play due to rattling piston in barrel.
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                        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Originally posted by sibun View Post
                          Thats the piston slap as i feel.

                          Timing chain sound will be constant and increase with rev.

                          If the sound is loud when de-accelerating and also increases at idling and decreases on increasing rev it is piston slap and nothing else.

                          Get the engine checked else you are waiting for an engine to seize and con rod developing excessive play due to rattling piston in barrel.

                          This would be a costly affair.. I am glad my bike just had to undergo cylinder operation.. the crank shaft was in good health...

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                          Originally posted by sibun View Post
                          Thats the piston slap as i feel.

                          Timing chain sound will be constant and increase with rev.

                          If the sound is loud when de-accelerating and also increases at idling and decreases on increasing rev it is piston slap and nothing else.

                          Get the engine checked else you are waiting for an engine to seize and con rod developing excessive play due to rattling piston in barrel.

                          This would be a costly affair.. I am glad my bike just had to undergo cylinder operation.. the crank shaft was in good health...



















                          These are the parts that have been changed.. There are no scratches on the walls of the cylinder and the piston as well.. I was pretty sure it was just the piston rings that needed change and the timings chain.. but still I went ahead with the cylinder kit change.. I requested them to do half Engine work..

                          Now the bike has much better acceleration and pulls effortlessly with a heavy pillion..

                          on the other hand, there is a bassy sound as if the air filter is not in place.. I am yet to open the filter box to check.. otherwise, the bike is amazing now...
                          [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION] bhai.. I checked the oil and the oil seems fresh to me.. looks like they did replace the oil and fill the old one back
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                          • Few pages back, an owner of KTM duke had reported damage to fuel pumps because of the pressure from the petrol pump nozzles.
                            A lot of discussion was going on about fuel pumps in duke and ZMR. But I wasn't able to conclude anything from that looong series of posts.
                            Simply put, can that happen in ZMR too?
                            My routine petrol pump waala fills from the right side of the motorcycle, putting the complete nozzle inside the tank at full pressure.


                            All that discussion about fuel system got me reminiscing about old carbs. Remember, a gum like substance is deposited inside a few years old carb, which is relatively easy to clean. But what about fuel injection systems, do they suffer from such deposits too?
                            If yes, where will it deposit, and how can it be cleaned?
                            Last edited by arya809; 04-19-2015, 02:10 AM.

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                            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by arya809 View Post
                              Few pages back, an owner of KTM duke had reported damage to fuel pumps because of the pressure from the petrol pump nozzles.

                              All that discussion about fuel system got me reminiscing about old carbs. Remember, a gum like substance is deposited inside a few years old carb, which is relatively easy to clean. But what about fuel injection systems, do they suffer from such deposits too?
                              If yes, where will it deposit, and how can it be cleaned?
                              The CBR has a plate which does not allow the nozzle to go all the way into the fuel tank or touch the fuel pump, looks like Honda do their homework well.
                              Coming to the ZMR, the fuel pump isn't very large and the possibility of the pump nozzle damaging it is lower. There are so many ZMR owners in the thread who are happily riding their vehicles without any problems.

                              The (one of the main reasons) damage to the fuel pump is caused by people letting the petrol level go below a certain amount. The fuel pump requires that to keep submerged and cool, it can easily get burnt out by having low fuel levels.

                              To keep the injectors clean, regularly use IFTEX System G (1 ml/L).

                              Correction to the above (courtesy [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION]) - the ZMR's fuel pump is OUTSIDE, however not letting fuel levels go below a certain point holds true in all FI bikes.
                              Last edited by AK3D; 04-19-2015, 07:25 PM.

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                              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Originally posted by AK3D View Post

                                The (one of the main reasons) damage to the fuel pump is caused by people letting the petrol level go below a certain amount. The fuel pump requires that to keep submerged and cool, it can easily get burnt out by having low fuel levels.
                                Thanks. I am using system G for the past 1 year now. BTW what is the lowest petrol amount to prevent fuel pump damage in ZMR?
                                The fuel indicator becomes less accurate when there is 2 to 4 liters in the tank, especially when the bike is accelerating or braking.Should I fill it up AS SOON AS fuel indicator shows 1 bar?
                                Last edited by arya809; 04-19-2015, 06:48 PM.

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