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  • #16891
    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Originally posted by malang73 View Post
    Checked the fuses in the fuse box under the seat. No luck. I plan to strip the fairing and dry out all electrical sockets. If it doesn't respond then will have to tow it to the mechanic. Keeping fingers crossed.
    Leave the bike under Sun for few hours. Pressure wash n ZMR don't go hand in hand. [emoji1]

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    • #16892
      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Originally posted by sibun View Post
      Blow dry the ignition, relay and switch connection using a vacuum cleaner.

      All will be back to normal.
      Where is the relay located?

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      • #16893
        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        Originally posted by malang73 View Post
        Where is the relay located?
        Next to the battery. The thing that clicks when you thumb the starter.
        Motorcycling Experience:
        2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
        2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
        2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
        2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
        2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
        2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

        The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
        Adios Comrades!
        A.P. 2018

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        • #16894
          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Noticed the 20amp fuse on the relay was short so changed it. But the bike still didn't fire. Removed the fairing, Dried the relay and opened up the other socket/joints and have parked the bike in the sun. Fingers crossed.

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          • #16895
            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Funny thing is when I turn the ignition switch, the fuel pump whirrs and is primed. But everything else seems dead- no lights in speedo, no nothing!

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            • #16896
              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Originally posted by malang73 View Post
              Funny thing is when I turn the ignition switch, the fuel pump whirrs and is primed. But everything else seems dead- no lights in speedo, no nothing!
              Same issue. Read this.

              Hero Honda Karizma ZMR - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community
              http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcycle-ownership-experiences/10257-hero-honda-karizma-zmr-1601.html#post1148065
              Share what you think about the motorcycle you own or have owned in the past.



              In short, rust + fungus along the wiring.
              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
              Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

              Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
              Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
              ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
              P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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              • #16897
                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Hi Divya, went through your trouble-shooting report. As advised, I've stripped down the bike to its wiring. The wiring seems fine as found no rust or fungus on joints.
                I've checked the battery and it's giving me a reading of 12.7. So that is one suspect eliminated.
                I want your advise on how to check the ECU, ignition coil, starter relay, bank angle sensor, RR unit and ECM to see if they are working fine.
                Can I do it on my own or do we need special instruments in which case I'll have to cart the bike to Delhi as there are no trustworthy mechs near my place.
                Attached Files

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                • #16898
                  Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by malang73 View Post
                  I've stripped down the bike to its wiring. The wiring seems fine as found no rust or fungus on joints.
                  Not just the joints. You'll have to see the whole cable line. That would need splicing of the insulation.

                  I've checked the battery and it's giving me a reading of 12.7. So that is one suspect eliminated.
                  Ya the battery is fine if it gives 12.7 when there is no load. Try revving to 4k rpm in 1st gear and see if it increases to 13+. It should. If it doesn't - RR unit may need attention.

                  I want your advise on how to check the ECU, ignition coil, starter relay, bank angle sensor, RR unit and ECM to see if they are working fine.
                  ECU or ECM - best idea is to swap it to another ZMR.
                  Ignition coil - use a multimeter.
                  Bank angle sensor - located near headlight. Take it out and shake it vigorously. It should make a slight tik tik sound as if a small ball is held underneath. Also, the bike shouldn't start without it.
                  O2/Lambda filament - near the exhaust pipe's joint on the engine. See if it has gone white.

                  Can I do it on my own or do we need special instruments in which case I'll have to cart the bike to Delhi as there are no trustworthy mechs near my place.
                  Basic tools and gadgets. Multimeter, spanners, pliers, knives/blades, insulation tape etc would be needed.
                  And patience.
                  Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                  Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                  Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                  Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                  ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                  P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                  • #16899
                    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Even if bank angle sensor is disconnected, bike will run perfect except for malfunction light.


                    Edit - Is bike starting and running fine? Is the issue only with instrument cluster ?

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                    • #16900
                      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      [MENTION=13997]Shreeni0403[/MENTION]-the bike is dead as a dodo! Except for the sound of the fuel pump, it doesn't do anything. [MENTION=47074]Divya[/MENTION]- I'm gonna spend the weekend and try to work on this, one thing at a time. Hopefully, should isolate and rectify the problem.
                      Where is the RR unit located? The cluster of wires under the fuel tank is scary! Never done such a electrical job before. But I'm gonna have a go at it anyway. I trust myself more than those cut-n-yank hammer-happy mechs!!
                      Will keep you guys posted.

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                      • #16901
                        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        That small aluminium thing with multiple lines near top portion of rear right shock absorber is RR unit.

                        Before doing any circus, can you please confirm if you are getting spark in spark plug ?

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                        • #16902
                          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Circus? Man, you break my heart!
                          So how am I gonna check for the spark if the self is just not firing? Any other way out?

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                          • #16903
                            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by malang73 View Post
                            Circus? Man, you break my heart!
                            So how am I gonna check for the spark if the self is just not firing? Any other way out?
                            1. Open the self starter assy from the right handlebar and spray Zorrik/WD40. Wipe the area clean. Attempt cranking the bike.
                            2. There are many desi ways to check if spark plug is firing.

                            Below is a tutorial that explains the whole process in detail. It is informative. Have a look.

                            [url]https://youtu.be/mUOmsGiirTU[/url]
                            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                            • #16904
                              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by malang73 View Post
                              Circus? Man, you break my heart!
                              So how am I gonna check for the spark if the self is just not firing? Any other way out?
                              Sorry didn't mean to hurt you but that should be your first step!

                              Self not firing meaning, self start motor not spinning?

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                              • #16905
                                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                No worries bro .
                                That is right. The self-starter motor is not spinning. Hence no way I can determine if I'm getting a spark or not. Is there any other way?

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