Announcement

**RaajD** · 05-29-2013, 12:03 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Pinaki View Post

Right , you are upshifting at a too low rpm for this motor by force of habit from your bullet

. Happy riding with new bike .

Old habits die hard

I was just trying to be gentle.

Tried Divya's suggestion, it helped.

Upshifting is now smoother, but there's definitely some issue, which sounds like a loose clutch cable or God-forbidden worn-out clutch. So, changing the engine oil is next on the list.

**rreneav1987** · 05-29-2013, 01:24 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by RaajD View Post

Old habits die hard

I was just trying to be gentle.

Tried Divya's suggestion, it helped.

Upshifting is now smoother, but there's definitely some issue, which sounds like a loose clutch cable or God-forbidden worn-out clutch. So, changing the engine oil is next on the list.

Bullet has long gear pattern.. takes almost a second to shift the gear..

zmr has a shorter gear pattern.. so confusions play a vital role here..

Sent from my Spice Mi-530 using xBhp Connect mobile app

**abhi7013** · 05-29-2013, 02:53 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by psr View Post

Good to see another member taking a Bold decision...like the others you will not regret it....The R3X and R4 are 15w40 grade and if you had been using thinner oil before, you will definitely feel lesser acceleration.....The ZMA's original spec for oil was 20w40, hence this oil is in spec...Hope you have good experience with the Rimula R3x.....Helix is for Cars and not advised for Wet Clutch engines...

Had a long run today sir and seriously there's a reduction in vibes. Lots of reduction. But my foot pegs viberate a lot. Is there a solution to it?
Overall this oil has satisfied me very much. No heating issues. That's another change.. Foot peg vibes of both rear and front. Thats the only problem..

Sent from my MT27i using Tapatalk 2

**Bibhudatta** · 05-29-2013, 03:14 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

Got myself rimula r3x. R4 was not available. Many warned me not to go for a diesel engine oil. I just told them to go ahead. Well, vibes definitely have redused. So has the pick up. I had agip fully synth last time. Comparing the acceleration with this I can feel the difference. There's a bit lag. Might be other reasons as well though.
And engine heating I cannot comment. Need to go for a bit more longer ride. Its the best oil ive used till date..

Btw people at shell were forcing me to go for shell helix. They say its perfect for al-round usage and bit more better than shell advance. True?

Sent from my MT27i using Tapatalk 2

Originally posted by psr View Post

Good to see another member taking a Bold decision...like the others you will not regret it....The R3X and R4 are 15w40 grade and if you had been using thinner oil before, you will definitely feel lesser acceleration.....The ZMA's original spec for oil was 20w40, hence this oil is in spec...Hope you have good experience with the Rimula R3x.....Helix is for Cars and not advised for Wet Clutch engines...

Oh yeah, welcome to the ZMR - Rimula party..

You would feel better with a few more KMs.. like i feel now.. Infact i finally went full throttle with my ZMR for the first time since i bought it.. had been waiting for that..felt good i must say !!

btw, i was wondering, how abt undergearing the bike with a change in one of the sprockets ? it would increase your acceleration & you can also enjoy the smoothness provided by R3/R4 at the same time ! Just a thought though..

----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

Had a long run today sir and seriously there's a reduction in vibes. Lots of reduction. But my foot pegs viberate a lot. Is there a solution to it?
Overall this oil has satisfied me very much. No heating issues. That's another change.. Foot peg vibes of both rear and front. Thats the only problem..

Sent from my MT27i using Tapatalk 2

I doubt if there is a permanent solution to it unless the engine is super refined.. may be a rubber dampener at the engine mount would help to an extent.. as divya had suggested a couple of posts back, you may hand make a washer out of any tube..

**rreneav1987** · 05-29-2013, 03:18 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Bibhudatta View Post

Oh yeah, welcome to the ZMR - Rimula party..

You would feel better with a few more KMs.. like i feel now.. Infact i finally went full throttle with my ZMR for the first time since i bought it.. had been waiting for that..felt good i must say !!

btw, i was wondering, how abt undergearing the bike with a change in one of the sprockets ? it would increase your acceleration & you can also enjoy the smoothness provided by R3/R4 at the same time ! Just a thought though..

The problem is, we don't have anything greater than 40T for the rear and nothing less that 13T in front which will be a plug and play to under gear.. wait.. I think we have Duke's sprocket kit.. not sure..

i think thats a 44T..

**psr** · 05-29-2013, 07:02 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

The problem is, we don't have anything greater than 40T for the rear and nothing less that 13T in front which will be a plug and play to under gear.. wait.. I think we have Duke's sprocket kit.. not sure..

i think thats a 44T..

Pulsar 200 / 220 Rear sprockets of different teeth count are compatible with ZMA / ZMR.....ie., 38,39,42....If you inquire you will get to know about it....
See the thread " World Of Sprocket "....
For the GB sprocket I presume old Ambition sprocket may be compatible...

When I bought my ZMA it seemed very quick stable,and smooth... over a period of time I have tinkered and got better acceleration than stock, less vibes, better FE, ..... now I feel this is not enough.....till I rode another bike with claimed higher power,stability etc...and came running back to my ZMA....needless to say ZMA is a boring addictive bike....

**rreneav1987** · 05-29-2013, 07:49 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by psr View Post

Pulsar 200 / 220 Rear sprockets of different teeth count are compatible with ZMA / ZMR.....ie., 38,39,42....If you inquire you will get to know about it....
See the thread " World Of Sprocket "....
For the GB sprocket I presume old Ambition sprocket may be compatible...

When I bought my ZMA it seemed very quick stable,and smooth... over a period of time I have tinkered and got better acceleration than stock, less vibes, better FE, ..... now I feel this is not enough.....till I rode another bike with claimed higher power,stability etc...and came running back to my ZMA....needless to say ZMA is a boring addictive bike....

One small correction sir.. zma and zmr have 40T.. p200 has 39T.. p220 dtsfi has 37T and p220 dtsi has 36T.. i used the 36T on my black pearl.. it was good for touring purposes.. but the bajaj quality proved and it lasted for less than 10000kms.. so shifted back to stock sprockets.. touched a top speed of 135kmph with the 36T sprocket..

The ambition chain size is smaller making the sprockets small too.. going for both the front and rear sprockets will under gear the bike way too much.. thats what I came to know when i researched..

which bike did you ride??

Sent from my Spice Mi-530 using xBhp Connect mobile app

**Bibhudatta** · 05-30-2013, 04:37 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

One small correction sir.. zma and zmr have 40T.. p200 has 39T.. p220 dtsfi has 37T and p220 dtsi has 36T.. i used the 36T on my black pearl.. it was good for touring purposes.. but the bajaj quality proved and it lasted for less than 10000kms.. so shifted back to stock sprockets.. touched a top speed of 135kmph with the 36T sprocket..

The ambition chain size is smaller making the sprockets small too.. going for both the front and rear sprockets will under gear the bike way too much.. thats what I came to know when i researched..

which bike did you ride??

Sent from my Spice Mi-530 using xBhp Connect mobile app

The following rear sprockets have more than 40 teeth:

RTR160 : 44 teeth
RTR160 FI / 180 : 46 teeth
Pulsar 180: 43 and 44 teeth
R15 V2: 42 teeth
Unicorn: 42 and 43 teeth
Duke: 43 teeth

not sure of any of the above is not compatible with ZMR. therefore we need to do a bit of research.

**rreneav1987** · 05-30-2013, 04:42 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Bibhudatta View Post

The following rear sprockets have more than 40 teeth:

RTR160 : 44 teeth
RTR160 FI / 180 : 46 teeth
Pulsar 180: 43 and 44 teeth
R15 V2: 42 teeth
Unicorn: 42 and 43 teeth
Duke: 43 teeth

not sure of any of the above is not compatible with ZMR. therefore we need to do a bit of research.

All the bikes except the Duke has a small chain size than the ZMR/ZMA.. and the holes of the sprockets for ZMA/ZMR are only 4.. it can vary from manufacturers..

The ones that are direct fit (rear sprockets only) are of pulsars.. and P200, P220 dtsi and P220 dtsfi only have the same size chain as the ZMA/ZMR AFAIK.. now that Duke is out.. it could possible have a direct fit.. not sure yet tough.. and the Impulse sprockets might be a direct fit

have to check on it..

World of Sprockets! - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/6145-world-sprockets.html

Share what you think about the motorcycle you own or have owned in the past.

check the above thread for more information and post your queries there

**Abhishek Nama** · 05-31-2013, 07:53 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Hi Everyone,

Been surfing xBhp for quite a while now, but never actually joined the forum, finally created an ID :P
I am happy to say that this is an awesome forum, literally an encyclopedia for Motorcycles.

Coming to the point.

I have been using my mom's Honda Activa for a long time now, and now my sister needs the vehicle as well.
I had a long time dream to ride a bike, and now its finally going to happen. And before someone asks me, Yes- I know how to ride a motorcycle, however the 1-down; 4-up shoft pattern will take some time getting used to.

I'll stop with the family background now :P
I am 90% inclined to go for the ZMR, to be honest I fell in love as soon as I saw the advert, and it looks even great in flesh.

Usage:

1. Commuting across the city- Thick Hyderabad traffic: Office-college-home.
2. As of now, I don't tour much, not much highway use. But planning to, after my purchase

Some info about me:

1. Age: 20.
2. Height: 5'10"
3. Weight: 70 kg.

My requirements are:

1. Good engine.
2. Good amount of low end torque.
3. I would prefer a bike that has no vibrations, but that's impossible :P
4. Reliability.
5. Comfort, good riding posture/position. Good pillion position and comfort.
6. Style.
7. Fuel Economy: 40-45 kmpl.

The ZMR seems to fulfill all the above. And co-incidentally ZMR tag line is : "Above All"

According to my research here, the other options within the same range are:

1. Bajaj Pulsar 200NS: I rejected it because the riding posture was not to my liking and pillion is hard.
2. Bajaj Puilsar P220: Did not like it for same reason as above, and did not like the design.
3. Yamaha R15 V2.0: Aggressive riding posture, since my father will also be using it- I don't think it will suite him. And of course pillion is completely not possible (My mother and sister).
4. Yamaha Fazer: No way! I see too many of those on the road, like flies and I don't like the design.

It has been repetitively mentioned by many members that Yamaha R15 is the absolute bike to go for. But, it's definitely not for me, in the long run I think the ZMR will be better.
If there are any other bikes that I should be considering, please do advise me accordingly.

I did not see many users from Hyderabad who have the ZMR. Anyway, I did call Phoenix Motors- Madhapur, they said they don't have the black model in stock and they can source it in 15 days, the wait is okay. Just love the all black look.

I have not TD any of the above mentioned bikes. Will go after some research here.

What do you guys think? ZMR would be the best bike for me, won't it?

**worrisomebear** · 05-31-2013, 08:22 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Abhishek Nama View Post

Hi Everyone,

Been surfing xBhp for quite a while now, but never actually joined the forum, finally created an ID :P
I am happy to say that this is an awesome forum, literally an encyclopedia for Motorcycles.

Coming to the point.

I have been using my mom's Honda Activa for a long time now, and now my sister needs the vehicle as well.
I had a long time dream to ride a bike, and now its finally going to happen. And before someone asks me, Yes- I know how to ride a motorcycle, however the 1-down; 4-up shoft pattern will take some time getting used to.

I'll stop with the family background now :P
I am 90% inclined to go for the ZMR, to be honest I fell in love as soon as I saw the advert, and it looks even great in flesh.

Usage:

1. Commuting across the city- Thick Hyderabad traffic: Office-college-home.
2. As of now, I don't tour much, not much highway use. But planning to, after my purchase

Some info about me:

1. Age: 20.
2. Height: 5'10"
3. Weight: 70 kg.

My requirements are:

1. Good engine.
2. Good amount of low end torque.
3. I would prefer a bike that has no vibrations, but that's impossible :P
4. Reliability.
5. Comfort, good riding posture/position. Good pillion position and comfort.
6. Style.
7. Fuel Economy: 40-45 kmpl.

The ZMR seems to fulfill all the above. And co-incidentally ZMR tag line is : "Above All"

According to my research here, the other options within the same range are:

1. Bajaj Pulsar 200NS: I rejected it because the riding posture was not to my liking and pillion is hard.
2. Bajaj Puilsar P220: Did not like it for same reason as above, and did not like the design.
3. Yamaha R15 V2.0: Aggressive riding posture, since my father will also be using it- I don't think it will suite him. And of course pillion is completely not possible (My mother and sister).
4. Yamaha Fazer: No way! I see too many of those on the road, like flies and I don't like the design.

It has been repetitively mentioned by many members that Yamaha R15 is the absolute bike to go for. But, it's definitely not for me, in the long run I think the ZMR will be better.
If there are any other bikes that I should be considering, please do advise me accordingly.

I did not see many users from Hyderabad who have the ZMR. Anyway, I did call Phoenix Motors- Madhapur, they said they don't have the black model in stock and they can source it in 15 days, the wait is okay. Just love the all black look.

I have not TD any of the above mentioned bikes. Will go after some research here.

What do you guys think? ZMR would be the best bike for me, won't it?

It will suit you easily, though standard zma will be a good fit for you too both will be apt for pillions as well.

do change the stock rear tyre on either of the bike and you are all set.

**Abhishek Nama** · 05-31-2013, 08:30 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post

It will suit you easily, though standard zma will be a good fit for you too both will be apt for pillions as well.

do change the stock rear tyre on either of the bike and you are all set.

**worrisomebear** · 05-31-2013, 08:37 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

the adv with zma is that its lighter than zmr, the pillion seats are comfortable for both the bikes and with the upright riding position they are comfortable on back as well

from tyre perspective, m45 and pirelli sport demon both are v good. the dealer will not be best person to do so... but you can get it done externally.. the size is right 110..dont upsize more...

may be chain guard might need a little cutting , but thats ok

----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post

the adv with zma is that its lighter than zmr, the pillion seats are comfortable for both the bikes and with the upright riding position they are comfortable on back as well

from tyre perspective, m45 and pirelli sport demon both are v good. the dealer will not be best person to do so... but you can get it done externally.. the size is right 110..dont upsize more...

may be chain guard might need a little cutting , but thats ok

You dont get much for zmr except FI rest power and other is same as zma... it will be lesser on maintainance as well compared to the zmr.. though if u keen on zmr please go ahead

**Abhishek Nama** · 05-31-2013, 08:42 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post

the adv with zma is that its lighter than zmr, the pillion seats are comfortable for both the bikes and with the upright riding position they are comfortable on back as well

from tyre perspective, m45 and pirelli sport demon both are v good. the dealer will not be best person to do so... but you can get it done externally.. the size is right 110..dont upsize more...

may be chain guard might need a little cutting , but thats ok

Good point "the adv with zma is that its lighter than zmr" it helps while wading though thick Hyderabad traffic.

About tyre: AFAIK PSD goes on without any modifications to the chain guard. However the M45 needs cutting- I am not sure here.
Will decide based upon availability since you said both are good.

Also wanted to ask about Oil, do you recommend to go along with HH oil or Motul, Castrol? please suggest accordingly.

----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post

the adv with zma is that its lighter than zmr, the pillion seats are comfortable for both the bikes and with the upright riding position they are comfortable on back as well

from tyre perspective, m45 and pirelli sport demon both are v good. the dealer will not be best person to do so... but you can get it done externally.. the size is right 110..dont upsize more...

may be chain guard might need a little cutting , but thats ok

----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

You dont get much for zmr except FI rest power and other is same as zma... it will be lesser on maintainance as well compared to the zmr.. though if u keen on zmr please go ahead

Yes, I can understand why you are suggesting the ZMA, will decide after TD. To be honest, my mom and sis are leaning towards the ZMR due to its looks

**worrisomebear** · 05-31-2013, 08:44 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Abhishek Nama View Post

Good point "the adv with zma is that its lighter than zmr" it helps while wading though thick Hyderabad traffic.

About tyre: AFAIK PSD goes on without any modifications to the chain guard. However the M45 needs cutting- I am not sure here.
Will decide based upon availability since you said both are good.

Also wanted to ask about Oil, do you recommend to go along with HH oil or Motul, Castrol? please suggest accordingly.

----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

Yes, I can understand why you are suggesting the ZMA, will decide after TD. To be honest, my mom and sis are leaning towards the ZMR due to its looks

The zma is a good 9kgs lighter....

stick to HH oil for warranty period but with shorter drain intervals in the range of 900 to 1000 kms.....

Announcement

Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment