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  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    I'd be hitting the highway soon for loooong-er rides. Need to sort out something that has been bothering me for 2 days now. I guess dark clouds haven't spared my bike yet.

    I feel some strain like feeling in the transmission, some vibration kind of feeling. There are notice-able vibes in the handle bar now, foot pegs vibrate as much as they did before.
    Also, the engine doesn't feel 100% smooth, may be more like 90%.

    Initially, I thought it maybe a bent rim on the front wheel. Took it to MRF wheel alignment store. Nope! Got the rear rim checked too, that was fine as well.
    Next, I suspected cone sets (don't ask me why, it just occurred). So, I did a basic test of leaving the handle bar completely at 65 kmph on the Outer Ring road. The bike traveled straight!

    Next, I went to the chain and lubed it. Vibes reduced, but still persisted.
    Now my question is, could the sprocket have worn out? But it has been only 13k kms on this set so far. I changed the first set at 16k kms. That was due to my negligence in the first 6-7k kms when I never lubed it, but this set has never seen a dry chain. Also, I cleaned it once with WD40/kerosene once every month to remove the muck and grime. It'd be so inhuman on the chain's part to die so easily.

    Also, I guess I need to change the engine oil to get rid of that strain like feeling from the engine. But, it has been only 1400 kms on Rimula so far. Gear shifts are not as smooth as before. [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir, any clues?
    1400 Kms is already much on engine oil, change that ASAP , also have you changed fork oil?
    M3:15

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    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Also open the front sprocket cover and clean it using diesel,1000 Kms is max on HH oil
      M3:15

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      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        Guys.. i finally got the battery changed.. got the Amaron 9AH fitted into the same battery cage after a small alteration.. rather couple of cuts and welds.. it fit right in.. spent some 2000 today including the battery and the modification...













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        RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
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        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Many people here said stock tires of ZMR are not good and tend to skit on rainy days.. I guess I got well adapted to the TVS tires of APACHE RTR that I feel these are great :P
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          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Originally posted by Raja Saiyan View Post
            Many people here said stock tires of ZMR are not good and tend to skit on rainy days.. I guess I got well adapted to the TVS tires of APACHE RTR that I feel these are great :P
            I never found the zmr tires to be bad.. now even the michelin sirac street seems to be doing well in wet roads after i reduced the psi to 32 from 35.. but will go for psd soon..


            Guys.. the psd here in Delhi costs 3400 for the rear tyre..


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            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
              I never found the zmr tires to be bad.. now even the michelin sirac street seems to be doing well in wet roads after i reduced the psi to 32 from 35.. but will go for psd soon..


              Guys.. the psd here in Delhi costs 3400 for the rear tyre..


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              That's cheap! Anyway do you have any idea about the ideal pressure for a 110 sized tyre? Is it same as stock?

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              ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                That's cheap! Anyway do you have any idea about the ideal pressure for a 110 sized tyre? Is it same as stock?

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                Yes.. maintain the same pressure as in stock. I fill up only 32 in rear as the tire skids during wet conditions..

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                Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
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                RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                RayZ - 2015 til now
                Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


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                • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                  Yes.. maintain the same pressure as in stock. I fill up only 32 in rear as the tire skids during wet conditions..

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                  I keep the pressure at 38.

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                  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                    That's cheap! Anyway do you have any idea about the ideal pressure for a 110 sized tyre? Is it same as stock?

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                    no way.. if 32 is for 100 there would be a 10% increased space both inside and outside the tire in 110 so if you fill 32 for 100, then you will have to keep the pressure 32+3.2 = 35 or 36~ [ or 38 if ya don't care about extra traction ]
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                    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by Raja Saiyan View Post
                      no way.. if 32 is for 100 there would be a 10% increased space both inside and outside the tire in 110 so if you fill 32 for 100, then you will have to keep the pressure 32+3.2 = 35 or 36~ [ or 38 if ya don't care about extra traction ]
                      When i say keep the pressure as in stock.. i actually meant 35.. thats the normal pressure people pump.. atleast thats what i do.. i have reduced to 32.. reasom being to prevent skidding on wet roads and it works fine though not perfect..

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                      Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                      P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                      Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                      ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                      RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                      Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                      RayZ - 2015 til now
                      Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                      Delhi to Narkanda
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                      Delhi to Nepal

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                      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by Bibhudatta View Post
                        There is no concrete evidence that a Diesel heavy vehicle oil can cause problems to Petrol motorcycles when the oil does not include friction modifiers.. However there is also no concrete evidence that it wont cause any damage to the engine parts in the long run , specifically due to the way a diesel oil is formulated & also due to the additive types.. While many bikers claim to have used diesel oils without any issues, many advanced mechanics on the other hand advice against that.. So it is bit of a gamble, or may be a calculated risk.. One should take it if he is ready; & if taken, then no point being a cry baby...

                        Personally i am not too convinced on using many oils with those so called motor biking certifications.. you pay a damn premium for them, but you still feel like changing the oil even before leaving the parking lot... that is the precise reason i wanted to try Rimula R4 & am still running on it.. Would change the oil only when i find another one worth the money..
                        Originally posted by psr View Post
                        If the oil composition due to changing Euro norms had not taken place, I would not have looked for an alternate to JASO MA grade...It is well known fact that the ZDDP and Calcium are good for the engine in reducing wear and esp ., in Engines with higher stress , and Loading on parts like in a Air Cooled Motorcycle engine....The Diesel and Air cooled engines both have almost same kind of operational environment, and require good protective additives, which were being removed systematically by norms to protect the Catcon....forgetting the fact that the engine and it's moving parts need these additives for it's very working.....Hence the hunt for an oil with these additives landed me with Diesel oils...I did read up on it's use in other countries for more than 6 years without negative results....and saw many pictures of Engine insides with least wear at high ODO readings....this made me experiment and I did get good results...Still I made it a point to warn would be users of unknown problems yet to surface.....

                        Good to know that you are running on R4 and have acceptable results......

                        The Journey and search continues..
                        Just to add to the context.. Kind of an update for people who might still be wondering...

                        My oil change was due & I still have 4 ltrs of Rimula R4 left at home.. But still thought of experimenting with some other 10W40 authentic petrol engine oil, just for a peace of mind.. So went ahead & replaced the existing R4 with Shell Ax7 10W40 SS.. Rode for about 70 KM post oil change & here is the observation...

                        1. Acceleration is for sure better with a lighter oil like 10W40.. Absolutely no doubt on this part..
                        2. More importantly acceleration is perfectly linear.. both power generation & delivery. This is where I had felt some issue with R4, as if there was some power loss for 3-4 seconds before power delivery used to happen (when I used to revv hard).. Though minor but I always used to doubt a bit of clutch slippage with R4 at higher speeds..
                        3. Engine definitely feels more free with 10W40

                        4. However Vibration from engine is definitely more with a 10W40.. Particularly at higher revvs.. For all its wrongs, engine had considerably less vibrations with R4 for sure..

                        So now the choice is yours.. with either of the oils you get something & loose something.. Damn I had to spend close to 700 bucks for the experiment .. But am happy I did it
                        Now I would try n see if i can get a suitable 10W40 diesel oil for experiment.. !!
                        Last edited by Bibhudatta; 07-15-2013, 01:04 AM.

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                        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Detailed trip log would be up soon.


                          [MENTION=27501]rreneav1987[/MENTION], one must always keep 3-4 psi air pressure EXTRA during rains. Gives more traction (contrary to belief)
                          Read - Riding in the Rains: The Art of Safe Riding
                          Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                          Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                          Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                          Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                          ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                          P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                            Detailed trip log would be up soon.
                            [MENTION=27501]rreneav1987[/MENTION], one must always keep 3-4 psi air pressure EXTRA during rains. Gives more traction (contrary to belief)
                            Read - Riding in the Rains: The Art of Safe Riding
                            Awesome.. welcome back.. this trip was during the weekend, is it??

                            And yes.. i know keeping extra pressure is advisable.. but for the michelin sirac street rear tire.. its not good on wet roads with high pressure.. hence this is the only alternate i had as i don want to soend extra money for now.. i am saving money for my next bike..

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                            Last edited by rreneav1987; 07-15-2013, 06:41 AM.
                            Splendor - 2k to 2006
                            Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                            P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                            Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                            ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                            RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                            Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                            RayZ - 2015 til now
                            Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                            Delhi to Narkanda
                            Delhi to Coimbatore
                            Delhi to Nepal

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                            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                              Awesome.. welcome back.. this trip was during the weekend, is it??
                              Yes bro, it was a weekend ride.
                              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                              Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                              Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                              Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                              ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                              P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                                Guys.. i finally got the battery changed.. got the Amaron 9AH fitted into the same battery cage after a small alteration.. rather couple of cuts and welds.. it fit right in.. spent some 2000 today including the battery and the modification...

                                Sent from my Spice Mi-530 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
                                Great stuff...

                                i assume along with battery case...battery wires too has been extended...

                                Is Amaron battery you had fitted is maintenance free?

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