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**abhi7013** · 06-06-2013, 02:08 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

In a month I fill fuel four times or sometimes five tines. Every time I check the pressure, it would have dropped to less than 15psi from 28 psi. Rear is proper. So I can live with this problem

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**rreneav1987** · 06-06-2013, 02:33 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

In a month I fill fuel four times or sometimes five tines. Every time I check the pressure, it would have dropped to less than 15psi from 28 psi. Rear is proper. So I can live with this problem

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What about the problem that you were facing??

**Divya Sharan** · 06-06-2013, 03:14 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

In reply to both, Arun and Abhi:

Such a drastic fall in air pressure is abnormal and living with it may not be the best idea. The tire/rim has some issues which might surprise you at higher speeds and the results won't be good.
Use warm soap water and pour it evenly in parts over the rim sides to check for air leaks. Do the same for the tire.

I hardly lose 2 psi in either tire in 10 days.

**rreneav1987** · 06-06-2013, 03:16 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

In reply to both, Arun and Abhi:

Such a drastic fall in air pressure is abnormal and living with it may not be the best idea. The tire/rim has some issues which might surprise you at higher speeds and the results won't be good.
Use warm soap water and pour it evenly in parts over the rim sides to check for air leaks. Do the same for the tire.

I hardly lose 2 psi in either tire in 10 days.

Same in case with me.. I check the air pressure once every time i fill up the tank... and not much loss.. sometimes I noticed it has stayed the same and sometimes increased

**RaajD** · 06-06-2013, 04:49 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

The rear left GRS of my ZMR was leaking from day 1 and brought it to the service centre's notice, but had to deal with promises and several cell numbers. Fed up with the treatment, I sent a complaint mail through HMC's contact form. Just a few moments ago, the manager of the ASC called me up and he sounded pretty terrified. He aksed me to inform HERO hqrs that I have been contacted and that the issue will be resolved in two days.

It's good to see that HERO is ready to listen to customers. Better still if SVCs take initiative.

**abhi7013** · 06-06-2013, 06:44 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

What about the problem that you were facing??

Just got my bike from the service bro. It was not a service actually. It was about the handling issue and since many bikes were there I had to leave it there from morning 11 to 5 now. Just was about to update you guys. Mech says he changed the bearings as they were out of condition and the water wash further misaligned a bearing (i dunno how) and that was creating the issue at a particular angle of tilt. He says he replaced them. My ride home was fantastic I must say. Smooth handling. Difference is observable. Thanks guys for all your help. I pin pointed the problem to him and made things easier.

Divya bro- actually I had a pucnture and and the local mech could not do it properly. Thinking of rectifying it but not getting the time. Could have done it today but bike was at dream machines and he does not do pucntures. Shall try sorting it out sooner. Thank you

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**Arun CH** · 06-06-2013, 07:20 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Raja Saiyan View Post

Losing air in both front and rear?? how often do you ride your bike?

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

he did say he is facing this problem from the day one.. but I am just wondering how he selected the bike without checking all this before delivery..

I rejected a Karizma before delivery because of the knocking sound from the engine block.. and then I asked them to change the bike and thats when i saw my Black Pearl which I never knew will be mine the next day

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Even if that is the case.. air shouldn't reduce by 10psi in a week.. i have not used my bike 2 weeks and not that much reduction was there..

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@ Raja Saiyan i commute to ma office abt 20kms everyday . . .

@rreneav1987 i checked everthing expect for this . . During delivery tym pressure was showing correctly . . I notice the loss in PSI after a week n reported to them n they they will rectify it in 1st service which never happened

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Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

In reply to both, Arun and Abhi:

Such a drastic fall in air pressure is abnormal and living with it may not be the best idea. The tire/rim has some issues which might surprise you at higher speeds and the results won't be good.
Use warm soap water and pour it evenly in parts over the rim sides to check for air leaks. Do the same for the tire.

I hardly lose 2 psi in either tire in 10 days.

@Divya Sharan I need to do something by this weekend . . Situation looks scary coz i ride in above 80 most of da tym . . Thanks for ur advice

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Originally posted by psr View Post

The ideal method to do it, is to deflate tire, press the tire edges ,on both sides , into the rim on BOTH sides and then ,with TIRE sitting in the center of rim, apply the Fevibond either on the tire or rim (or both)and inflate....Rubber based adhesives are pliable, and once dry also remain just like a thin coat of rubber.It will be easy to remove Tire ,if needed...If you apply Emulsion Paint ,...the thinner, Acetone,Toulene in it,will react with the rubber, dissolve it,and form a bond with metal rim...when you remove tire, this bond will not be pliable and may cause the edge of tire to shear.

In use when the tire goes over a bump or pot hole the entire tire including it's rim will flex, and in this regard the Rubber based adhesive is superior

Thanks for ur suggestion psr sir . .

**Divya Sharan** · 06-06-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

Divya bro- actually I had a pucnture and and the local mech could not do it properly. Thinking of rectifying it but not getting the time. Could have done it today but bike was at dream machines and he does not do pucntures. Shall try sorting it out sooner. Thank you

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Barely 50m from Dream Machines is Pit Stop. They do puncture repairs as well.

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**rreneav1987** · 06-06-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

Just got my bike from the service bro. It was not a service actually. It was about the handling issue and since many bikes were there I had to leave it there from morning 11 to 5 now. Just was about to update you guys. Mech says he changed the bearings as they were out of condition and the water wash further misaligned a bearing (i dunno how) and that was creating the issue at a particular angle of tilt. He says he replaced them. My ride home was fantastic I must say. Smooth handling. Difference is observable. Thanks guys for all your help. I pin pointed the problem to him and made things easier.

Divya bro- actually I had a pucnture and and the local mech could not do it properly. Thinking of rectifying it but not getting the time. Could have done it today but bike was at dream machines and he does not do pucntures. Shall try sorting it out sooner. Thank you

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Glad to hear your problem is resolved..

didn't I tell you??

everything will seem smooth but once you change the bearing.. you will find the difference

thats the same thing that happened with me

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Originally posted by Arun CH View Post

@rreneav1987 i checked everthing expect for this . . During delivery tym pressure was showing correctly . . I notice the loss in PSI after a week n reported to them n they they will rectify it in 1st service which never happened

Bro.. did you by any chance ride over any pothole? maybe a big one?? both the tires losing pressure seems new to me.. but yeah.. check the air inlet mouth and then try what @Divya Sharan said.. apply soap water and try to find out where the air is leaking from.. that would help find out the issue..

I finally got the Oil Changed.. Rimula.. as expected.. engine is smoother.. gear shifts are still hard but i guess it will take time.. maybe after completing 200kms it will be normal..

one thing i noticed.. the Engine was getting heated quickly.. it rained heavily today by the way.. any idea why I faced this issue?? maybe because the oil is new??

**Divya Sharan** · 06-06-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

I finally got the Oil Changed.. Rimula.. as expected.. engine is smoother.. gear shifts are still hard but i guess it will take time.. maybe after completing 200kms it will be normal..

one thing i noticed.. the Engine was getting heated quickly.. it rained heavily today by the way.. any idea why I faced this issue?? maybe because the oil is new??

How old is your air filter? Also, how hot is Delhi now? Expect smooth gear shifts post 50-60 kms. I had butter smooth shifts right from the word go. Maybe Mobil1 had a role to play, but most people have reported smooth shifts post 50 kms of the change.

**rreneav1987** · 06-06-2013, 09:12 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

How old is your air filter? Also, how hot is Delhi now? Expect smooth gear shifts post 50-60 kms. I had butter smooth shifts right from the word go. Maybe Mobil1 had a role to play, but most people have reported smooth shifts post 50 kms of the change.

Less than 5000 kms old bro.. delhi just got cool cos of rain.. i was using motul 300v 15W50 prior changing to rimula.. almost every drop of water was sucked out using a machine at BP pump.. my friend rode my black Pearl and he loved it more than before.. we also used rimula on his rtr180..

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**abhi7013** · 06-06-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Barely 50m from Dream Machines is Pit Stop. They do puncture repairs as well.

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Lol!! I did not know that they do puncture repairs too. Anyway I have to buy new tyres. Waiting for my exams to finish. Shall rectify the puncture issue for now. Am still in a dilemma for tyres. Psd is the one I know but am not ready to sacrifice that pick up I have. I still need to make up my mind. So shall change tyres after exams and shall rectify this issue temporarily.

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**rreneav1987** · 06-07-2013, 08:42 AM

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I noticed something today.. after gym i took my Black Pearl for a short 10km ride.. noticed the gear shifts have become smooth and bike vibes have reduced noticibly.. but.. i also noticed the drop in speed.. proir to Rimula with motul.. @5000 RPM in 5th gear i used to ride at 78~80.. but now that has reduced to 75~77.. almost loss of 3kmph.. [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION].. can you tell me the speed of your bike @5000 RPM in 5th gear..

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**Divya Sharan** · 06-07-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

I noticed something today.. after gym i took my Black Pearl for a short 10km ride.. noticed the gear shifts have become smooth and bike vibes have reduced noticibly.. but.. i also noticed the drop in speed.. proir to Rimula with motul.. @5000 RPM in 5th gear i used to ride at 78~80.. but now that has reduced to 75~77.. almost loss of 3kmph.. [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION].. can you tell me the speed of your bike @5000 RPM in 5th gear..

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I suspect your clutch plates nearing their end. Or maybe the chain sprocket kit if you're still on stock ones. Get the chain adjusted if its loose/tight and see.
I get 79-80 kmph at 5000 RPM in 5th for the first few seconds and if I pin the throttle at 80-82, the tacho stays stable at 5-5.1 k approximately. It was always like this, it wasn't affected by the tire/oil change.

**rreneav1987** · 06-07-2013, 10:20 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

I suspect your clutch plates nearing their end. Or maybe the chain sprocket kit if you're still on stock ones. Get the chain adjusted if its loose/tight and see.
I get 79-80 kmph at 5000 RPM in 5th for the first few seconds and if I pin the throttle at 80-82, the tacho stays stable at 5-5.1 k approximately. It was always like this, it wasn't affected by the tire/oil change.

Ok.. now on my way to office i noticed the speed is back to normal.. wtf might have happened?? I don't know.. my chain sprockets are just 2500kms or less old..

maybe clutch plates like you said.. but isnt it too early for it?? The engine didnt heat up today morning after 10km ride...

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