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**chilled_fire** · 10-29-2008, 01:08 PM

^^^ most ppl here including me have been using Motul since ages now personally i have not faced any issues and the engine revs really smooth.And since the specification is exactly same as required by 220 there shldnot be any issues.

**pranay** · 10-29-2008, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post

CO level 2.5 to 3.
for leaking head - r u using motul oil ? if yeah then some ppl here hav already faced this issue they might help.

@prankie & Ajinkya : u guys shld see the plight of my rides engine then

it looks like its almost 2-3 yrs old.
when asked to the PB guys they say "its quiet common" (the most common solution they have for almost all issues).

Originally posted by Durvesh View Post

hey bro tell em abut p220 oil changing issuie...motul or castrol

Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post

^^^ most ppl here including me have been using Motul since ages now personally i have not faced any issues and the engine revs really smooth.And since the specification is exactly same as required by 220 there shldnot be any issues.

I have been using Motul 300v Full Synth for around 1500 kms now and I can vouch for the smoothness and less harshness of the engine after I switched to it from Castrol 4T. I have not faced the engine oil leak from the head.

**Durvesh** · 10-29-2008, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post

^^^ most ppl here including me have been using Motul since ages now personally i have not faced any issues and the engine revs really smooth.And since the specification is exactly same as required by 220 there shldnot be any issues.

ok..ur rite but borivali pbk maeger say it's not valid ur bike warrenty ( with motul)

**mitesh_singh** · 10-29-2008, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Durvesh View Post

ok..ur rite but borivali pbk maeger say it's not valid ur bike warrenty ( with motul)

then service ur bike at Andheri Sai Service..they dont have problems with bike on Motul Oils.

**sudipta_roy** · 10-29-2008, 08:44 PM

ya... am using motul frm 1000km onwards.. But why should the enginehead lick? is it cause of synthetic oil? wat's the solution??

**mitesh_singh** · 10-30-2008, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by sudipta_roy View Post

ya... am using motul frm 1000km onwards.. But why should the enginehead lick? is it cause of synthetic oil? wat's the solution??

the oil ( Motul 300v ) is leaking from my bike head too. Now i am assuming that it is happening coz I filled a lil more than 1200ml. I am waiting for the next service. But then again has anyone successfully solved the seal oil leak issue. The 300v is no doubt better than the mineral. The smoothness is there at all times.

**chilled_fire** · 10-30-2008, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post

Question : how long does the clutch plates of 220 usually lasts ?
and how do u come to know when they are worn out ? is it just pick up issues ?

Any idea guys ??

**Praful** · 10-30-2008, 09:08 PM

^^@Chilled: Clutch plate lasting is subjective to manufacturing batch quality and wear and tear, so there is no specific time/KMS clocked for changing clutch plates. People have changed it as early as 8K and as late as <answer unkown>

I got mine changed at the 20K service, even though they were good for another 3-5K kms atleast, but I just hated to power loss.

Signs for clutch play wear out:

1. Bike accelerates slower than normal i.e. takes its own sweet time to reach a high speed.
2. Looses more speed than normal on a uphill.
3.Feels even more sluggish with two people.

These basically indicate that the engine is not able to take the load. And the last and best way IMO to figure out atleast for the 220's

4. In 5th gear exactly at 6K rpm the bike does 83. This indicated speed will drop with increase in clutch plates wear out. Like mine was doing 80 @ 6K rpm

Hope this helps!

Got my clutch cables replaced today as a precautionary measure. Odo is no just over 22K.

**theslayer** · 10-30-2008, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post

Any idea guys ??

15000 kilometres. I always redline the engine before shifting the gears. Now my clutch plates are f**ked! The entire bike pants and struggles like its on the death bed after 6k RPM. I got the fuel filter replaced.. and problem still exists.. so I'm assuming the clutch plates have reached the end of their life..

**sudipta_roy** · 10-30-2008, 09:18 PM

mine with 10000km till feeling strong thnk crdt goes to Motul synt oil lets see....

**Durvesh** · 10-30-2008, 09:20 PM

abut motul oil

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

If you are riding sedately, the a synth oil can last you upwards of 6-7K kms.....but 120kmph on mysore road is no where close to sedate

so I'd recommend you switch between 4-5K kms.

Ideally a semi-synth oil runs about 1K kms lesser than fully synth one, but the cost diff is close to double. So from a VFM perspective sem-synth's are pretty darn good.

Motul 5100T and Valvoline premium 4T being the two semi-synths that I've used till date, and found both to be pretty good. The Motul one was a shade better though. Better as in it lasted longer and ran smoother.

hey prful tell me if we r using motul oil thna wht abut the warrnety issuie...i ask in mumbai borivali probiking tht manger say if you motul oil iuse thn ur warrnety will be void..so tell me yaar wht i do yaar?

im now put oil whtever pbk give it i think so tht castrol active 20 w50 but i changed in every 1200 km for ma bike long life safty becoz some 1500 km after bike gives some harshness & drop in performanece so nw plsz give me is that castorl oil ok for ma bike otr i switch to the motul sythathic oil.....reply plszzz

**Durvesh** · 10-30-2008, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

^^@Chilled: Clutch plate lasting is subjective to manufacturing batch quality and wear and tear, so there is no specific time/KMS clocked for changing clutch plates. People have changed it as early as 8K and as late as <answer unkown>

I got mine changed at the 20K service, even though they were good for another 3-5K kms atleast, but I just hated to power loss.

Signs for clutch play wear out:

1. Bike accelerates slower than normal i.e. takes its own sweet time to reach a high speed.
2. Looses more speed than normal on a uphill.
3.Feels even more sluggish with two people.

These basically indicate that the engine is not able to take the load. And the last and best way IMO to figure out atleast for the 220's

4. In 5th gear exactly at 6K rpm the bike does 83. This indicated speed will drop with increase in clutch plates wear out. Like mine was doing 80 @ 6K rpm

Hope this helps!

Got my clutch cables replaced today as a precautionary measure. Odo is no just over 22K.

hey budy thnksxz yaar this is imp tips for r bikesz p220

**Praful** · 10-30-2008, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by Durvesh View Post

hey prful tell me if we r using motul oil thna wht abut the warrnety issuie...i ask in mumbai borivali probiking tht manger say if you motul oil iuse thn ur warrnety will be void..so tell me yaar wht i do yaar?

im now put oil whtever pbk give it i think so tht castrol active 20 w50 but i changed in every 1200 km for ma bike long life safty becoz some 1500 km after bike gives some harshness & drop in performanece so nw plsz give me is that castorl oil ok for ma bike otr i switch to the motul sythathic oil.....reply plszzz

Ok phele toh, your warranty does not go void with a fully synth oil. But since the ProB guys are so sucky and don't wanna listen to you, keep putting whatever they are putting. Mineral oil isn't really that bad for your bike, unless you are in to extreme highspeed long distance touring or racing the bike. Mineral oil also works OK enuf, but change it within 1.5K kms.

Another thing you can try is to ask them if they are OK with Semi-Synth oils? If they are you can put either Motul or Valvoline.

**Durvesh** · 10-30-2008, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

Ok phele toh, your warranty does not go void with a fully synth oil. But since the ProB guys are so sucky and don't wanna listen to you, keep putting whatever they are putting. Mineral oil isn't really that bad for your bike, unless you are in to extreme highspeed long distance touring or racing the bike. Mineral oil also works OK enuf, but change it within 1.5K kms.

Another thing you can try is to ask them if they are OK with Semi-Synth oils? If they are you can put either Motul or Valvoline.

ok..buddy so which motul oil is semi sythatice is the 5100
or fully sythatic 300v

**Praful** · 10-30-2008, 09:34 PM

Motul 5100T - Semi-Synthetic - 15W50
Motul 300V - Fully Synthetic - 15W50

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