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  • Originally posted by Aryan View Post
    Oh okay, thanks for the reply though. How many kms. before those need a refill, anyway? 10,000 kms., is it? I have checked the manual but couldn't find any mention of the refill, or I guess I need to look at it more carefully the next time!
    You won't get it even if you look at with a magnifying glass!

    This was mentioned by MG on old xBhp in his tryst with BAL guys. Logically speaking if one is riding on bad road the 10K interval will have to advanced a bit, prolly 8K!

    Damn Banglore's bad roads.....

    Originally posted by Aparajith View Post
    If u cant get the refill, better chuck it off and get the V1's rear shocks. they are a lot better and are atleast maintenance free!

    P.S : Am not sure if the height etc. are the same.
    The coil length might be the same, but coil dia and width are different. The shocks are 2 generations ahead in pulsar family. It would only screwup an already bad handling bike!!!!
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    • How ridiculous of Bajaj to simply overlook this very important point, when deciding on the contents of the so called 'user-manual'!!
      :)

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      • welcome to the club bro !

        Am again writing to Bal regarding the rear disc pad noise ... earlier it was just one kind of noise but now it creates wierd tones everytime i brake...
        Aprilia RS 125 or Honda CB400 Vtec ..... which one will it be ??? I think its gonna be NINJA ZX 6R :-)

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        • Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post
          welcome to the club bro !

          Am again writing to Bal regarding the rear disc pad noise ... earlier it was just one kind of noise but now it creates wierd tones everytime i brake...

          It seems we guys pay BAL money and buy these bikes to just "test" their so called "Pro-bikes"!!
          :)

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          • ^^C'mon, you have been with Bajaj family long enough to know their tricks!

            @Chilled: Do check out your disk plate's surface, it could have developed ripples (undulating surface)....that can be the most severe thing causing your issue!!!
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            • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
              The coil length might be the same, but coil dia and width are different. The shocks are 2 generations ahead in pulsar family. It would only screwup an already bad handling bike!!!!
              No yaar!! Actually the V1 shock is a bit more stiffly sprung and is slightly shorter as the V1's had shorter swing-arms compared to V2's and UG3's. If the height of the shocks are same, it would help u out by not bottoming-out on bad roads and aid u a lot more during cornering if my assumptions are right. Anyways, getting it is an even tougher job than getting a refill(My personal experience)! But it can atleast be re-conditioned and repaired as a stop-gap solution till u get a new shock.

              P.S : All my asusmptions. I cud be terribly wrong here! Guess Santa can provide a better insight.
              Democracy is when 2 wolves and a sheep meet to decide who is for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has a gun.

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              • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                ^^C'mon, you have been with Bajaj family long enough to know their tricks!

                @Chilled: Do check out your disk plate's surface, it could have developed ripples (undulating surface)....that can be the most severe thing causing your issue!!!
                This was not the case with the Classic Pulsar. I have never ever visited the Bajaj service stations untimely, for getting any weird niggles sorted out. But with their pro-bikes, it seems Bajaj has gone way over the top! Problems galore; out of the 71 pages of this thread, atleast 70 pages are filled with people discussing all sorts of problems with the P-220 (and in some cases the P-200 as well); the rest one page is OT stuff!
                :)

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                • ^^ I once said and was flamed for it too by a certain section of people....

                  Once a Bajaj, Never a Bajaj!!!

                  @Apar: Is it really stiffer? Does the V1 shock have a 5/4 step setting?
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                  • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                    Once a Bajaj, Never a Bajaj!!!
                    Quite true!! moreover as an ex-V1 owner I shud say even I have never frequented the service centres except for the free service. After that it was for general oil changes and stuff. Nothing more!

                    Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                    @Apar: Is it really stiffer? Does the V1 shock have a 5/4 step setting?
                    Yep, its stiffer. IIRC it has a 5 step rating. I guess people like Aryan who have thier older machines with older shocks can give better insight!
                    Democracy is when 2 wolves and a sheep meet to decide who is for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has a gun.

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                    • @Aryan : to some extent ur true ...
                      but believe me man to ride a trouble free 220 is heaven period !
                      So, me and rest of us here just try to get her to be perfect , these problems if u know(which i believe u do) are small niggles which the PBK guys most of the time fail to sort out or even understand....
                      I almost visit the PBK here every weekend even for small issues like now it CO check cause i have changed to Shell.
                      Aprilia RS 125 or Honda CB400 Vtec ..... which one will it be ??? I think its gonna be NINJA ZX 6R :-)

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                      • Just when i thought i was loosing all hopes on PBK SC ... there was a ray of light.

                        I had send a mail in the morning to Bajaj PBK guys regarding the rear disc brake noise.and danm they were so quick to reply to all my queries i even got a call from pune regarding the same.

                        here is one imp answer we all were looking for.....
                        Question : " Also, I had a query, how come every time I change fuel the CO setting changes ?
                        I am now using shell and the bike is performing well, but previously almost every weekend when I used to check CO there used to be huge difference. Isn't the ECU unit supposed to handle the CO by itself ?
                        I have used Speed, Power and now Shell. "

                        Answer :

                        "I too wish that ECU should have recognised and then handle the CO on its own.

                        Unfortunately the mechanical changes of carbon built up insdie throttle body is not getting recognised by ECU.

                        Extra carbon built up do not allow correct air to flow inside engine.

                        That makes the engine to run rich disturbing CO level.

                        The ECU can be made intelligent by having few add on sensors and then an electrical motor can be triggered to control butterfly valve inside throttle body.
                        Such arrangement is available on many imported bikes,but the only issue is that it costs that much more !!

                        You can hope that ECU would be intelligent on our next new model."


                        So new models ahem, ahem
                        Aprilia RS 125 or Honda CB400 Vtec ..... which one will it be ??? I think its gonna be NINJA ZX 6R :-)

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                        • And that brings up another question, when was the last time you got your throttle body cleaned? And I don't they do it without you telling them to do so usually!!
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                          • wat ?? do they clean the throttle body ? i didnt knew tat ....
                            Aprilia RS 125 or Honda CB400 Vtec ..... which one will it be ??? I think its gonna be NINJA ZX 6R :-)

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                            • They don't actually, for some reason Bajaj wants carbon deposits in the throttle body!

                              Earlier they did it without a hitch, now a days Bajaj has NOT recommended cleaning the throttle body!

                              But I have definitely felt a improvement in the bike on cleaning the throttle body!

                              There are two ways of doing this:-

                              1.Without removing the throttle body
                              Here without moving the throttle body, the entire throttle body and the butterfly valve is cleaned using a brush from the air-box side. This is also beneficial but not completely. And moreover Bajaj does not have hassles with this method.

                              2.Removal of throttle body
                              This involves physical removal of the throttle and it is thoroughly cleaned with petrol. After this process the throttle body is as good as when it was new. But its very difficult and important to get the tuning right after this. Moreover after this procedure you will need to get the CO setting done again after 1K kms. This is because some amount of carbon would have deposited.

                              Method #2 is thus for the reason mentioned above slightly unsafe, but the results if one gets it right the results are AWESOME.

                              Throttle body cleaning should usually be done every 10K kms, earlier if ur conditions are dusty and fuel quality is not upto the mark.

                              Phew!!!!
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                              • ^^^ tats good info , but how can we trust those guys to get the throtle body out and not screwup the setting ??

                                Getting the CO rite itself is a big task

                                Anyways i will get my rear disc problems sorted out tomorrow, tats wat they told me , will ask them then , i also need to check the rear shocks for gas cause its never checked.
                                Aprilia RS 125 or Honda CB400 Vtec ..... which one will it be ??? I think its gonna be NINJA ZX 6R :-)

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