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  • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

    Originally posted by undergroundrider View Post
    I got the brake pad replaced to genuine hero zma disc pads

    one issue that I'm facing is that, whenever I press the front disc brake the suspension compresses and goes down, however when its decompressed on its way up it makes a TAK sound!!!

    any pointers guys ?? @Divyasharan @ashwinprakas @acs1207 (other members too feel free to pitch in)

    Cheers!!
    Since everyone's going for the coneset, I would also suggest you go ahead and look into it. And just to satisfy my curiosity but the bike in main stand and with the front wheel off the ground tighten the bolt on the upper T first followed by the ones on the lower T.
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    2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
    2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
    2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
    2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
    2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

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    • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

      Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
      Ah..hmm..ohh..eh...! I reserve my comments.:banghead:
      get em out, you don't need to reserve them

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      Originally posted by phanikar View Post
      Looks like a typical case of Conset adjustment gone wrong, Look for that first than replacing any parts. Wheel bearing and all are hyper remote cases. My little over 1.16L Run ZMA Is still running on stock axle bearing and Stem plates. If the fork tubes/legs are worn out, it would be more of a screeching sound than a Thud/Tak. If the fork Spring have lost elasticity, it would be a "thud" sound while bottoming out than on rebound. If the coneset adjustment doesn't work then you can go in for a replacement depending on the severity. 8K is too less for a conset damage, if its not aligned properly at the first place.

      P.S: It could also be a Wiring/Switch harness/Horns hitting something on rebound, just a possibility.
      the noise emerges once the front disc is pressed and released... to be precise it emerges only when the brake lever is released!!

      There was no noise as I compressed and decompressed the suspension without using the front brake

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      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
      Why neglect it? Weekend is just 1 day away!
      lol.... done, I'm troubleSHOOTING it down this weekend

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      Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
      Since everyone's going for the coneset, I would also suggest you go ahead and look into it. And just to satisfy my curiosity but the bike in main stand and with the front wheel off the ground tighten the bolt on the upper T first followed by the ones on the lower T.
      Same here buddy, since everyone are suspecting the cone set ill take a look at it first

      will follow up on your advice and ask the mechanic to do so

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      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
      Wear and tear depends a lot upon the riding style and roads. If you ride on bumpy/potholed roads often, you'd have to change parts sooner. I have changed cone set twice till now.
      I hail from bombay bro, roads out here are nothing less than dirt tracks
      Last edited by undergroundrider; 02-20-2015, 01:02 PM.

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      • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

        Hey [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] can we fit the rear part of zmr on zma?

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        • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

          Originally posted by kety213 View Post
          Hey @Divya Sharan can we fit the rear part of zmr on zma?
          My only question is "Why?".

          ZMA is one of the most handsomely proportional bikes ever sold in India. Nothing over done (except for the front cowl added with the R version).
          You may retrofit the disc setup if you wish. You can see the pics few pages back. ZMR's rear isn't as gorgeous as the ZMA's!
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          • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

            Originally posted by undergroundrider View Post
            the noise emerges once the front disc is pressed and released... to be precise it emerges only when the brake lever is released!!

            There was no noise as I compressed and decompressed the suspension without using the front brake
            Something tells me, the issue would vanish if you take the caliper off, and reset everything.
            Originally posted by kety213 View Post
            Hey [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] can we fit the rear part of zmr on zma?

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            Direct fit according to SVC. I believe Aneesh@4Ghz has pics.

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            Motorcycling Experience:
            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
            Adios Comrades!
            A.P. 2018

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            • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

              Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
              Something tells me, the issue would vanish if you take the caliper off, and reset everything.

              Sent from my MI 3W
              how do I reset everything, only the rotor was opened to replace the pads, rest of the bike is as it came (untouched/Stock!)

              which calliper are you referring to, could I have some pics ? (only if it suits you well)

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              • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                Underground rider, did you check the coneset? Do not touch the caliper yet.
                Let's troubleshoot from steering and proceed further.
                [MENTION=20978]ashwin[/MENTION], let's help him to troubleshoot the issue in baby steps. Sometimes too many pointers could lead to shift the focus. :thumbup:
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                • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                  Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                  Underground rider, did you check the coneset? Do not touch the caliper yet.
                  Let's troubleshoot from steering and proceed further.
                  @ashwin, let's help him to troubleshoot the issue in baby steps. Sometimes too many pointers could lead to shift the focus. :thumbup:
                  No bro, I haven't checked the coneset yet, will be getting it done tomorrow.

                  in parallel I've been looking this up on Google as well

                  Indicators I'm facing are pretty much the same as suggested by you guys, its either a damaged/worn out coneset or a mis-aligned one

                  any specific brand of coneset I need to procure? or should I stick to genuine hero spares!
                  Last edited by undergroundrider; 02-20-2015, 05:36 PM.

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                  • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    My only question is "Why?".

                    ZMA is one of the most handsomely proportional bikes ever sold in India. Nothing over done (except for the front cowl added with the R version).
                    You may retrofit the disc setup if you wish. You can see the pics few pages back. ZMR's rear isn't as gorgeous as the ZMA's!
                    The problem is the turn indicators on the left keeps breaking.... The reason behind this is I am married . I recently put the new stay n did a short tour of 400kms it wall still there even after facing the bad roads. But as soon as my wife joined me it broke again..

                    As women when sitting on pillion unknowingly break them as you may have observed on many bike only the left indicators hanging by the bikes. So I asked..

                    I know that Zma's design is flawless..that's the only reason why it was still selling in good numbers. Not like the new models they made shit out of it

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                    • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                      @experts, pl post procedure in detail- how to tune AFR of zma. I hv screwed up my zma tuning myself, I want to learn and rectify it myself only.

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                      • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                        Originally posted by kety213 View Post
                        The problem is the turn indicators on the left keeps breaking.... The reason behind this is I am married .
                        A DIY would be much cheaper, don't you think? You're planning to spend thousands just because your indicator falls with a pillion?

                        Originally posted by ankit.traveller View Post
                        @experts, pl post procedure in detail- how to tune AFR of zma. I hv screwed up my zma tuning myself, I want to learn and rectify it myself only.
                        Discussed like a million times already.

                        3.5 turns of the screw ensuring you follow the process mentioned here - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...ml#post1041987
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                        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                        • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                          Originally posted by kety213 View Post
                          The problem is the turn indicators on the left keeps breaking.... The reason behind this is I am married . I recently put the new stay n did a short tour of 400kms it wall still there even after facing the bad roads. But as soon as my wife joined me it broke again..

                          As women when sitting on pillion unknowingly break them as you may have observed on many bike only the left indicators hanging by the bikes. So I asked..

                          I know that Zma's design is flawless..that's the only reason why it was still selling in good numbers. Not like the new models they made shit out of it

                          Sent from my Panasonic P81 using xBhp Connect mobile app

                          Your problem is indicator breaking or marrying😆😆
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                          • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                            Originally posted by sibun View Post
                            Your problem is indicator breaking or marrying😆😆
                            Indicators..

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                            • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                              Originally posted by undergroundrider View Post
                              how do I reset everything, only the rotor was opened to replace the pads, rest of the bike is as it came (untouched/Stock!)

                              which calliper are you referring to, could I have some pics ? (only if it suits you well)
                              This thing, thats the caliper, sorry for not having a better picture.



                              Every TAK relates to something being loose somewhere or the other, it can be loose T bolts, cone set or even brake caliper in your case, so just take it off, and put it back, but this time make sure that the pads are properly seated, the screech plate is properly set, everything is snug without any extra clearances and finally all the bolts are properly torqued in.

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                              Originally posted by ankit.traveller View Post
                              @experts, pl post procedure in detail- how to tune AFR of zma. I hv screwed up my zma tuning myself, I want to learn and rectify it myself only.
                              3~3.5 turns would do. I would settle with 3 and let it be, too much tweaking and it could develop an air leak.
                              Motorcycling Experience:
                              2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                              2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                              2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                              2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                              The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                              Adios Comrades!
                              A.P. 2018

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                              • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                                Friends..
                                I've purchased brand new Karizma R in 2007.. Since then number of bikes like Machismo AVL500, Thunderbird, FZ, CBR250, Thunderbird500, FZ again, Ninja300 n Ninja650 came and gone.. but Zma is still with me like trusted horse since day one..

                                So last month I've decided to give her new lease of life..
                                Things need to be changed was
                                1) All Plastic body panels.
                                2) Tyres
                                3) Indicators
                                4) front Brake master cylinder
                                5) Clutch n pressure plates
                                6) Clutch housing
                                7) Timing chain kit n tensioner
                                8) Chain Sprocket
                                9) Battery and battery cables
                                10) spark plug, cable n cap
                                11) Scilencer plate
                                12) clutch and Excelator cables
                                13) handlebar
                                14) side stand
                                15) engine oil
                                16) Some nut bolts

                                It took me lot of time n energy to source all the items and once all came in while fitting I've discovered that RUBBER bush where body panels fit are worn out.. So to source all rubber parts it took me one month.. Finally work began to put all things together..
                                Repainted swingarm, wheels etc..
                                N my Karizma R looked like it came out of showroom right away..
                                After 9 years.. 50,000kms bike became new once again

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                                So new tension came to protect bike from fall etc as it don't come with any leg guard.. N search begins for leg guard n finally I found this.. See pics.. Perfect fit..

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