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  • Originally posted by sagargowda View Post
    Hello guys,
    This is my first post in Xbhp. This is an awesome place for bikers, i have been following the posts from quite a few days and its very informative.
    I got my ZMA R 2011 (gray), 17th last month. From SAI motors,bangalore.
    It's always been my dream to own this angel from a very long time, now that i have it, i'm enjoying every bit of it.
    Have completed 1100 kms on it. maintaining an average rpm of 3.5k during the run-in. the bike performs really well, superb acceleration,handling,throttle response, and superb smooth engine.
    But i have a few bothering concerns
    1.At the time of delivery the SS guys filled in 1 lt of fuel, I got it filled completely at a shell outlet (Shell normal petrol). the maximum i could fill was 16.2lts, considering the capacity of the tank at 17lts this is normal.
    And after a few days of riding i completed 630 kms, i had to change to reserve, so i thought i was good for another 80kms atleast until the bike completely runs out of fuel as there would be 2 lts left. but to my surprise the bike ran out of fuel at just 50 kms. how could that happen?

    2.First service done at 650kms. As i had to go somewhere i asked the HH SS guys to only wash the bike, change the engine oil, and check the spark plug. but from that day on the bike doesnt seem so smooth,there is knocking even in the 1st gear. the throttle response is not at al free.
    Had been to the SS, they said it is normal after the first service.Could this harm the engine in anyway? Engine oil level is also OK.
    But why is this happening? please help me out guys.
    First of all WELCOME to xBhp.
    I have purchased Red Karizma-R on 10th Feb,2011. The bike has clocked 1100 yesterday. My experience is, while riding below 4K rpm, I was getting more than 45km/l milage. Checked the spark plug and the color was white(at the first service @520KM). Last week I decided to give it a speed burst and while the bike was at higher rpm, I felt the knocking from the engine.
    Last day before going to office, I turned the fuel screw of the carburator anticlockwiss 1/2 turn, I felt the smoothness and after that I have not noticed any knocking. I am yet to check the spark plug color. But I think, its mostly due to lean mixture in your bike, the SC people must have tuned the bike for optimum millage.

    In case you are running on lean mixture, you can feel the engine is getting hot quickly.

    Ride safe.
    Last edited by on wheels; 03-23-2011, 03:45 PM.
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    • hello guys

      i have a slightly bent front wheel on my zma, can you tell me where can i get it
      aligned/balanced as i have checked at major tire repairing shops with automated equipment and all but they all say they cannot repair a motorcycles wheels
      i am growing old, but not up!

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      • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
        To all ZMA owners:

        I understand that ZMA comes with 35/35w headlight. Can ZMA take 60/55w bulb without any mods? Sorry for my poor knowledge on this section, i just read somewhere.
        It will burn the reflector.
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        • Hai everybody i joined xbhp tis mnth. My Zma R(red new design) compltd 500 kms and is due for 1st service. Wat all should i tel the showroom guys, i got a decent mileage of 45 or above considering tat i ride below 4k rpm and mostly on open highways at 50-65 km/hr.

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          • Originally posted by Jerrin View Post
            Hai everybody i joined xbhp tis mnth. My Zma R(red new design) compltd 500 kms and is due for 1st service. Wat all should i tel the showroom guys, i got a decent mileage of 45 or above considering tat i ride below 4k rpm and mostly on open highways at 50-65 km/hr.
            Avoid typing in sms lingo lik tis!!! It will help other understand what you are typing!! Else people will start ignoring what you are saying or asking!!
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            • please give me suggestions guys on what to do?


              Hello guys, please help me out really getting tensed ,..

              I got my ZMA R 2011 (gray), 17th last month. From SAI motors,bangalore.
              It's always been my dream to own this angel from a very long time, now that i have it, i'm enjoying every bit of it.
              Have completed 1100 kms on it. maintaining an average rpm of 3.5k during the run-in. the bike performs really well, superb acceleration,handling,throttle response, and superb smooth engine.
              But i have a few bothering concerns
              1.At the time of delivery the SS guys filled in 1 lt of fuel, I got it filled completely at a shell outlet (Shell normal petrol). the maximum i could fill was 16.2lts, considering the capacity of the tank at 17lts this is normal.
              And after a few days of riding i completed 630 kms, i had to change to reserve, so i thought i was good for another 80kms atleast until the bike completely runs out of fuel as there would be 2 lts left. but to my surprise the bike ran out of fuel at just 50 kms. how could that happen?

              2.First service done at 650kms. As i had to go somewhere i asked the HH SS guys to only wash the bike, change the engine oil, and check the spark plug. but from that day on the bike doesnt seem so smooth,there is knocking even in the 1st gear. the throttle response is not at al free.
              Had been to the SS, they said it is normal after the first service.Could this harm the engine in anyway? Engine oil level is also OK.
              But why is this happening? please help me out guys.

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              • Originally posted by sagargowda View Post

                Hello guys, please help me out really getting tensed ,..

                I got my ZMA R 2011 (gray), 17th last month. From SAI motors,bangalore.
                It's always been my dream to own this angel from a very long time, now that i have it, i'm enjoying every bit of it.
                Have completed 1100 kms on it. maintaining an average rpm of 3.5k during the run-in. the bike performs really well, superb acceleration,handling,throttle response, and superb smooth engine.
                But i have a few bothering concerns
                1.At the time of delivery the SS guys filled in 1 lt of fuel, I got it filled completely at a shell outlet (Shell normal petrol). the maximum i could fill was 16.2lts, considering the capacity of the tank at 17lts this is normal.
                And after a few days of riding i completed 630 kms, i had to change to reserve, so i thought i was good for another 80kms atleast until the bike completely runs out of fuel as there would be 2 lts left. but to my surprise the bike ran out of fuel at just 50 kms. how could that happen?

                2.First service done at 650kms. As i had to go somewhere i asked the HH SS guys to only wash the bike, change the engine oil, and check the spark plug. but from that day on the bike doesnt seem so smooth,there is knocking even in the 1st gear. the throttle response is not at al free.
                Had been to the SS, they said it is normal after the first service.Could this harm the engine in anyway? Engine oil level is also OK.
                But why is this happening? please help me out guys.
                Seems as though the A.S.S had made your AFR lean.Check the spark plug color..the center electrode should be chocolate brown and not white. if it is white it confirms that your bike is running lean AFR. You can ask the same A.S.S to make it rich...which should solve the problem.
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                • Hi Guys,
                  I am new and from Bangalore.
                  After going through the threads I am beginning to wonder how my ZMA R is consistently returning around only 25-28 kmpl even when I ride sane . I once complained to the and after that the tuning was so poor that though I could comfortable reach 80 kmph but took ages and long stretch to do a 100 then got it reset again.

                  If not a divine intervention an expert intervention could help me. I am not greedy but a decent 32-35 would make me happy. Thanks in advance.

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                  • Originally posted by sgp View Post
                    I once complained to the and after that the tuning was so poor that though I could comfortable reach 80 kmph but took ages and long stretch to do a 100 then got it reset again.

                    If not a divine intervention an expert intervention could help me. I am not greedy but a decent 32-35 would make me happy. Thanks in advance.
                    I'm a two stroker, however, have shared the general aspects of bike with regards to your post.

                    I see there are two clarifications in your post.

                    1.Are you saying that tuning made your bike sluggish to climb 80 to 100?
                    2. What do you mean by reset again? - Are you saying that carb was again tweaked?

                    Mileage and speed are two different segment. If you want mileage, yes the carb might be tuned lean to achieve mileage.

                    If you are getting below expected mileage, the carb is tuned slightly tuned rich.

                    My thoughts:

                    Need to check the carb, jets etc.
                    When was the last time AF was cleaned?
                    What's the color of sparkplug right now?
                    Check the clutch plates.
                    Apart from the above, quality fuel, regular checking of chain, sprockets, and wheel bearing do play a role in achieving desired result.
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                    • Hi,
                      My response inline in bold
                      Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                      I'm a two stroker, however, have shared the general aspects of bike with regards to your post.

                      I see there are two clarifications in your post.

                      1.Are you saying that tuning made your bike sluggish to climb 80 to 100?True
                      2. What do you mean by reset again? - Are you saying that carb was again tweaked?The fuel screw was loosened to make the mix rich

                      Mileage and speed are two different segment. If you want mileage, yes the carb might be tuned lean to achieve mileage.

                      If you are getting below expected mileage, the carb is tuned slightly tuned rich.

                      My thoughts:

                      Need to check the carb, jets etc.Okay
                      When was the last time AF was cleaned?3months or abt 3000kms back
                      What's the color of sparkplug right now?I havent checked it, will do it.
                      Check the clutch plates.My bike is 1 yr/10.5k KMs new, so am doubting if that could be it. this condition is since day1
                      Apart from the above, quality fuel, regular checking of chain, sprockets, and wheel bearing do play a role in achieving desired result. try to fill from reputed pumps most if not all the times, chain tension is verified, sprockets and wheel beearing? what should I look for?
                      Thanks for your quick reply!

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                      • Originally posted by psr View Post
                        Seems as though the A.S.S had made your AFR lean.Check the spark plug color..the center electrode should be chocolate brown and not white. if it is white it confirms that your bike is running lean AFR. You can ask the same A.S.S to make it rich...which should solve the problem.
                        Thank You for the suggestion bro i will get that checked,. please dont mind my ignorance, but what is AFR???

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                        • Originally posted by sgp View Post
                          Hi Guys,
                          I am new and from Bangalore.
                          After going through the threads I am beginning to wonder how my ZMA R is consistently returning around only 25-28 kmpl even when I ride sane . I once complained to the and after that the tuning was so poor that though I could comfortable reach 80 kmph but took ages and long stretch to do a 100 then got it reset again.

                          If not a divine intervention an expert intervention could help me. I am not greedy but a decent 32-35 would make me happy. Thanks in advance.
                          Bro...change clutch plates...go for 1300 inr with golden coating from after market as on HH service center same cost around 2500 ...and ride below 5k rpm till first 100km and then see the increament in speed and milage...
                          Long streach problem is because of the clutch plates are skipping on top gear and check the engine u might need decarbonising...and trust me it will help
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                          • Sorry for the sms language. I am giving my bike for 1st service tomorow. Aftr this service i am planning to go to cochin for Chris pfeiffer'stunt show. Haven't finalised the trip since it is really difficult to convince my parents about this much distance of riding. I want to know , whether cruising at 60-70km/hr for a long time will affect my engine ,since my bike hasn't completed the 'running in ' period.
                            Last edited by Jerrin; 03-25-2011, 12:19 AM.

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                            • I dont think anyone will believe me but i been getting an FE of 50 KMPL... (: I had filled 200 RS of petrol (price is 61.41 RS here) and i rode for a total of 170 KMS... (that too on a empty tank because i had a friend push me to the petrol pump... whoopsyy) and the next time i filled only 70 and i rode 50 KMS..... I didnt expect my Karizma R to give me that much ever... i get about 43 or so.... im happy as hell haha......
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                              • Congratulations bro, how old is your bike? Itz true that if this smooth bike gets into soft hands,it will surely return FE above 40's. My bike got above 45 and i am giving it for the 1st service today. Enjoy your ride.

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