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  • I've been in love with my newly acquired Karizma R (preowned, 21km done 2007 model) and this thread. This is not my first post, but I have been so occupied trying to grasp the shared knowledge that I never even got a chance to ask a question! Almost everything has been answered in great detail! PSR, Anish, Sreeram and many others - thanks a lot for helping newbies like me. I am literally makings notes/copying things to a file so that I can tackle few things myself when needed. I got my Karizma about a month ago, but I don't ride it regularly as I am either working from home or take the bus to work. Though the bike has few glitches, I still love it for the experience it's able to deliver. ( Just yesterday I got back from my native place, and started the bike after 7 days and it sprang to life just on the second kick without choke!)

    Anyway, as I said before, the bike has few glitches and I am hoping to get them all rectified fully or to some extent. It wouldn't be fair if I just let the glitches stay, while the bike has been so faithful and trustworthy in serving me. I wanted to make sure that there wasn't much info posted here before asking a question, and I think there isn't yet. Also I just went out for a night ride to observe the bike's sound/feel and putting down the points. After reading PSR sir's post below, I just couldn't stop myself from posting.

    Originally posted by psr View Post
    Make sure you are not up shifting to the next higher gear..In ZMA the gear shifting is so smooth you are not confident when you up shift and so we sometime involuntarily shift again....there are no loud clicks and you don't feel the gear shifting on your foot...In fact many a time i had tried to shift up, at 5th gear, because the engine has good torque and does not struggle ..unless you are in very low RPM.
    The gears in my Karizma are not smooth. This has been one of the major glitch since the day one I got it, but I have read several times, that Karizma's gears are so smooth that its annoying, so I think this is a matter of concern. The downshifting is the hardest of all, and when I shift from 5th to 4th, 4th to 3rd I need to use a substantial amount of downward pressure and there's a good amount of 'tak' sound. ( I also ride a Pulsar 150 now and then, and even this P150's gears are almost 4 times as smooth as the gears in my Karizma. And the Pulsar 150 I am referring to has done 50k, has not really been well maintained, so not really one of the best around.)

    I initially thought that my shifting technique is not exactly correct, as I am more of a lazy shifter and a slow rider. When I shift gears, I completely stop throttling, then press the clutch fully and shift, and this whole op takes about 1.5-2.5 seconds which is pretty slow IMO. And my 2to3, 3to4, 4to5 shifts (& vice versa) are usually when the engine's around 2k to 3.5k rpms. Also I don't cross 60kmph/4k rpm unless I need to overtake another vehicle. Please guide me if I need to correct something here, if not, please let me know your shifting habits as I can try those.

    My upshifts too aren't that good either. But compared to the downshift, maybe I need to use 50% of the total force I use for downshifting. But again, its not as smooth as the much older P150 I referred to, earlier.

    As I didn't know what oil this bike was running on, I thought the tough gears would be solved after I change the oil completely. Just today I had gotten the oil drained completely and filled in a new can of Gulf Pride plus 4t 20W40 grade oil, with the help of a mechanic. Soon after the change, I religiously used the kick starter with ignition off, as I think it would help spreading the oil, then started the bike and revved the engine for about 15 seconds while stationary around 2k rpm. Then rode the bike within 45kmph for about couple of kms. Later today, I have ridden a total distance of about 25km today after oil change + warm up.

    I feel there's a minor improvement with the gear hardness now, but its almost insignificant. As I still need to use quite a lot of pressure whenever I shift gears. Please guide me how, I should go about researching this issue.
    Last edited by prashk; 06-19-2011, 01:13 AM.

    The above posts are derived from aggregation of opinions of several xBhp ZMA riders, based on personal experience/common sense. Please be advised that some things might differ from manufacturer's recommendations.

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    • Originally posted by Vishakh View Post
      Heard spares are a big issue nowadays.
      Warning guyS " IF YOU CRASH YOUR BIKES IT'S GONNA BE A BAD TIME"
      Karizma is now in the category of endangered species if you break or damage something it will be a wild search for parts
      Hmmm... arent the companies liable to produce spare parts for a product upto 6years after its sales date????
      Motorcycling Experience:
      2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
      2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
      2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
      2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
      2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
      2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

      The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
      Adios Comrades!
      A.P. 2018

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      • Zma spares have always been an issue right from the 'Jet Set Go' days.
        That said.. There have been A.S.S' that have been known to have a steady stock of Zma spares.

        For example, Nikhi Motors in Bangalore (Near Mekhri Circle) always seems to have Zma spares.
        I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman.

        -Homer J Simpson

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        • Originally posted by BOND_001 View Post
          can someone suggest me an alternative for the tank float on the zma?, i think the float of cb unicorn would fit,could someone clarify?

          the above spare is not available at trivandrum.have fed up of procuring parts,that is why i am looking for an alternative.any idea guys?

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          • Originally posted by psr View Post
            This thingi not present in my zma....
            Motorcycling Experience:
            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
            Adios Comrades!
            A.P. 2018

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            • Originally posted by BOND_001 View Post
              the above spare is not available at trivandrum.have fed up of procuring parts,that is why i am looking for an alternative.any idea guys?
              hey you didnt check HH showrooms?. In JCT motors paruthipara just go and yell at them they will procure it within 1-2 weeks i think not sure well just give it a try
              Cheetahs are faster but the lion is still the KING

              Being In Love with a Girl is like being a superbike fitted with SPEED LIMITER

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              • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                Hmmm... arent the companies liable to produce spare parts for a product upto 6years after its sales date????
                6Years?? AFAIK Karizma was introduced in 2003 March,So 8 years.

                Originally posted by BOND_001 View Post
                the above spare is not available at trivandrum.have fed up of procuring parts,that is why i am looking for an alternative.any idea guys?
                Man,Come to kollam,I will help you. You can order it @ Diya motors and will get it within 15days,100% sure,I got my ordered parts yesterday. PM me if you need more info.

                Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                This thingi not present in my zma....
                Take it to my house,I will check it if you cannot find it.

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                • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                  This thingi not present in my zma....
                  Then you should check for this tube on the carb....if it is not there then you are loosing big time on initial rev smoothness, and acceleration.....if the tube is there on the carb then get it routed as shown previous pic.
                  When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                  • Originally posted by prashk View Post
                    I feel there's a minor improvement with the gear hardness now, but its almost insignificant. As I still need to use quite a lot of pressure whenever I shift gears. Please guide me how, I should go about researching this issue.
                    You need to adjust the clutch for proper gear shift...
                    The free play when you try to pull in the clutch lever should not be more than 5mm ....if it is get it adjusted so that your clutch will disengage fully when you pull in the lever...this is one of the most neglected adjustment leading to hard gear shifts.The Honda engine in ZMA is the CRF 230 which is still made and sold in huge numbers world over....
                    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                    • Originally posted by pabi View Post
                      very true bro ...

                      @psr: sir my bike is roaring like before ... prob was that i misplaced some pipes on the carb.. [i can't even remember the order i removed .. ].. i feel like my wings are back rode like anything yesterday .Thanks for guiding me ..
                      Happy to note that you you got over the problem...most probably the carb breather as mentioned in previous posts by me had been the problem for poor initial.CV carburetors are sensitive to adjustments....Enjoy the ride
                      Ride safe, Ride responsibly.
                      When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                      • Im planning to put this on my ZMA tomorow along with LED(9) pilot lamps arranged by aneesh bro...


                        Will they burn my reflector or anything like that..?? And are they actually compatible???
                        Motorcycling Experience:
                        2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                        2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                        2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                        2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                        2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                        2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                        The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                        Adios Comrades!
                        A.P. 2018

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                        • I'm stonked to see someone like PSR posting here !

                          OF used to be the go-to Zeema guru earlier and with him taking up more elaborate duties, this thread was left without an 'expert'. PSR has filled those very large (metaphorically speaking, OF sir ) and how !

                          @ashwinprakas: I'm running a Osram Nightbreaker in my Zma for about a year now without any problems whatsoever. The extra wattage helps make night-time sojourns a lot safer

                          Cheers !
                          I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman.

                          -Homer J Simpson

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                          • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                            Im planning to put this on my ZMA tomorow along with LED(9) pilot lamps arranged by aneesh bro...
                            Its from Yash3 a.k.a Yashar Arafath.
                            5 SMD led is rs-550 per pair
                            9 SMD led is rs - 700 per pair

                            Seems to be bit costly but guess it's brighter too.

                            Will they burn my reflector or anything like that..?? And are they actually compatible???
                            No,It wont make burns in your reflector.Also Don't repeat same queries again and again ,these are discussed earlier,Use search option before posting.

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                            • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                              No,It wont make burns in your reflector.Also Don't repeat same queries again and again ,these are discussed earlier,Use search option before posting.
                              I searched bro.. but the thing is everyones using nightbreaker and im having dela both are of same wattage but dela is 46rs and nightbreaker in 300rs.. How come??? and in FZ forum someone said that dela heats alot ... So i wanted to know whether anyone had any bad experience with ZMA+DELA.??
                              Motorcycling Experience:
                              2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                              2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                              2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                              2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                              The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                              Adios Comrades!
                              A.P. 2018

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                              • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                                I searched bro.. but the thing is everyones using nightbreaker and im having dela both are of same wattage but dela is 46rs and nightbreaker in 300rs.. How come???
                                As per the company's claims, Night breaker:
                                1. shine up to 90% more light on the street*
                                2. put out up to 10% whiter light*


                                Thats why it is priced at 300rs also same in case of Philips Extreme Power 55/60,so its priced at 900 per pair.
                                While Ordinary 55/60 bulbs are yellow,that's why they are sold for 75-85rs.They were sold at 46rs years back.

                                Hope this helps you.

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