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**Vishakh** · 09-25-2011, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

The heat fade of reflector will start near the Bulb , which is the source of heat.

So no burns for me so far

. Well i plonked the bulb on the stock relay i didnt buy a new relay so wont get the entire bulb output

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**Brat** · 09-25-2011, 05:07 PM

I didn't think the 55/60 is capable of causing heat burn to the reflectors, i had been running a 55w HID for 6 months (with stock reflectors) before i switched back to stock bulb (35w halogen) and found no indication of reflector issues. The housing used to get warm to the touch but thats pretty much it.

**Vishakh** · 09-25-2011, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by Brat View Post

I didn't think the 55/60 is capable of causing heat burn to the reflectors, i had been running a 55w HID for 6 months (with stock reflectors) before i switched back to stock bulb (35w halogen) and found no indication of reflector issues. The housing used to get warm to the touch but thats pretty much it.

AFAIK HID's are a lot cooler than halogen bulbs.

**Vishakh** · 09-25-2011, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

@ selvin rebz

Post a pic of the burn.Please.

Yes Selvin please post a pic of your reflector

**ashwinprakas** · 09-25-2011, 09:07 PM

Today rode a fellow xbhpian ZMR, and am so in love with my ZMA. Tappets or cylinder or whatever, I dont give a damn.

**selvin rebz** · 09-25-2011, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

Yes Selvin please post a pic of your reflector

atleast your reflector is better then mine,i will post the pic tomorrow for sure..

**acs1207** · 09-25-2011, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Words coming from a ZMA owner who bought it of his parents and has ordered a new replacement cylinder kit (Oh god! I wish there were crying and heart breaking smileys.).

Yeah ... I too think we need an upgrade on the smileys !!

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

Were you using highbeam full time?

i am using bosch 55/60 no problem so far. Did lot of night drive also.

Been using 55/60W Halonix for more than 2 months I think - no issues so far.

Originally posted by psr View Post

I meant the parts manual uploaded by me..the expanded parts manual will show in detail the exhaust assembly.There are two more screws to be undone..
Will check it when time permits!!

I don't remember posting what you have included as originally posted by PSR ...I definitely will not ask if one horn and one headlight can be connected to the same relay..
Sorry for the gaffe - it wasn't you . I have edited the post .

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

So no burns for me so far

. Well i plonked the bulb on the stock relay i didnt buy a new relay so wont get the entire bulb output

.

If you're gonna continue using the 55/60 W then you better get the relay connected - it does makes a lot of difference . Mainly it'll also prolong your switch's life !!

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

AFAIK HID's are a lot cooler than halogen bulbs.

That's what I think too - though I'd like someone experienced to confirm it .

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 09-25-2011, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by acs1207 View Post

That's what I think too - though I'd like someone experienced to confirm it .

Yes,HID's are cooler,but warmer HID's are also available.

(According to their Temperature in kelvins)

**Brat** · 09-26-2011, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

AFAIK HID's are a lot cooler than halogen bulbs.

This is learning for me.

Indeed you are accurate, HID's are not only usually cooler in colour temperature compared to halogen but seems to run few degrees cooler than similar spec halogen bulbs in terms of heat radiation,
due to higher efficiency and lower heat loss.

**Vishakh** · 09-26-2011, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by acs1207 View Post

Been using 55/60W Halonix for more than 2 months I think - no issues so far.

If you're gonna continue using the 55/60 W then you better get the relay connected - it does makes a lot of difference . Mainly it'll also prolong your switch's life !!

I have posted a pic of my reflector (previous page) cant judge wether its a burn or somthing else

please check it

And using a relay means full output of the bulb and that means higher the chances of reflector burning

**Vishakh** · 09-26-2011, 07:32 AM

Query to older ZMA owners (ie other than 2011 version) does your bikes need valve clearance adjustment at frequent intervals?

**acs1207** · 09-26-2011, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

Yes,HID's are cooler,but warmer HID's are also available.

(According to their Temperature in kelvins)

Warmer 'kelvin' degrees reflect their color temperature . See pic below.

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

I have posted a pic of my reflector (previous page) cant judge wether its a burn or somthing else

please check it
Could be moisture condensation (hopefully) . Check whether it's there in the morning after you've parked the bike for some hours and the temperature is cool .
And using a relay means full output of the bulb and that means higher the chances of reflector burning

Guys've been using 90/100 W h/l and not all are affected by reflector burns . I think it mainly happens if your h/l is on at very low speeds or at stop when the heat can't dissipate due to lack of airflow .

Originally posted by Brat View Post

This is learning for me.

Indeed you are accurate, HID's are not only usually cooler in colour temperature compared to halogen but seems to run few degrees cooler than similar spec halogen bulbs in terms of heat radiation,
due to higher efficiency and lower heat loss.

HIDs can be of low color temp or high color temp -from 2000k to 12000 k . The ones I've seen in my town are mostly Chinese ones @ 6000 k . They are bluish in color . What we want for normal light should be @ 4200 k to below 5000 k color temp .

HIDs are supposed to give upto 3 times light as compared to halogens . So a 55 W HID would give at least the light output of a 100W halogen while giving the heat output of less than what a 55 W halogen does.

**psr** · 09-26-2011, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Brat View Post

This is learning for me.

Indeed you are accurate, HID's are not only usually cooler in colour temperature compared to halogen but seems to run few degrees cooler than similar spec halogen bulbs in terms of heat radiation,
due to higher efficiency and lower heat loss.

Actually the HID works on the principle of an arc and gas ionization.There are no tungsten filament inside like in Halogens, and the Ionization of the Gas inside is used to emit the light in a HID...hence cooler in temperature than Halogen.The down side is if there are no Quartz glass filters the Ionization will emit UV...so a cheap HID without this protection is not preferable.
Here is a link to explain the HID...the English is not good, but explanation is.

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**SriramEfunds** · 09-26-2011, 12:05 PM

^Once again, here we go!

**pavan_zma** · 09-26-2011, 03:12 PM

Karizma Balancing Issue

I have a 5 year old Karizma and have a strange problem associated with it since I bought the bike .

While riding the bike, when ever the bike runs over a pot hole or a hump no matter the speed of the bike the front part (not sure if its handle, fork or wheel) of the bike starts swaying left and right and it feels very scary. I will have to either slow down the bike until it stops swaying or I will have to stop it and have to push the front suspension of the bike back and forth.

I have complained about this problem to Sai motors from where I bought the bike thrice over the span of 1.5 years and have never got it repaired, each and every time they say they have fixed it which is never done until now.

Where and how can I get this problem fixed?

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