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JD, I think you have got me wrong. My engine RPM is not varying, it only the RPM needle which is fluctuating. Sometimes it works as if everything is normal & at specific RPM I am able to reach the desired speed which I was able to reach earlier also before the problem came.Originally posted by Jdsouza81 View Post
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I was having the idle rpm fluctuating problem,no problem while riding,just idling problem,adjusted the AFR to 4 turns and it became normal.Originally posted by Jdsouza81 View PostFluctuating RPM can be caused by irregular air flow or fuel flow (Just My thoughts). I remember, one of the guys on this thread had faced a similar issue and was resolved by changing the AFR screw. I'm trying to locate the exact post and will add a link to the post once I find it.
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Originally posted by Jdsouza81 View Post@imjoshee: I think you need to get the carberettor cleaned. That should resolve the issue.Originally posted by SriramEfunds View PostRPM meter - Carburetor..can you explain how cleaning the carb should resolve the RPM meter issue?Originally posted by Jdsouza81 View PostFluctuating RPM can be caused by irregular air flow or fuel flow (Just My thoughts). I remember, one of the guys on this thread had faced a similar issue and was resolved by changing the AFR screw. I'm trying to locate the exact post and will add a link to the post once I find it.Something wrong with it's electronics . May be a loose contact . Not sure though where to look .Originally posted by imjoshee View PostJD, I think you have got me wrong. My engine RPM is not varying, it only the RPM needle which is fluctuating. Sometimes it works as if everything is normal & at specific RPM I am able to reach the desired speed which I was able to reach earlier also before the problem came.
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Spark Plug reading
I'd been running on AFR 3 turns out for more than 800 km and this is the state of the spark plug . Can you guys please tell me whether I'm running
lean ?


Also is the gap correct ?
If a clearer pic is needed I'll get one .sigpic
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Yes,Its lean.Originally posted by acs1207 View PostCan you guys please tell me whether I'm running
lean ?
Try atleast 3.5 Turns.
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I encounter this problem every once in a few months. I just clean the bad rust and melted petroleum jelly off the battery terminals properly and re-connect it. Works fine after that! The frequency increases if i wash the bike often as water tends to fall on the batt terminals.Originally posted by imjoshee View PostSome issue that has started just couple of days back, the RPM needle starts jumping around and isnt stable. When the bike is in idle it shows 0 RPM & once I start riding the needle goes up. Even if I am riding at a constant throttle & constant RPM the needle moves up & down. I have checked the battery water level & its absolutely perfect, the RR unit shows a good current also so battery is not discharging because the lights,horns & other electronic devices are working absolutely fine. So now what could be the problem?
This also happens if the batt is weak/discharged.
Also, check the small black fuse(inline) after the main relay.
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I think either the console connector under the console had developed loose contact or the console itself is going bad ...if you have warranty get it changed.Originally posted by imjoshee View PostJD, I think you have got me wrong. My engine RPM is not varying, it only the RPM needle which is fluctuating. Sometimes it works as if everything is normal & at specific RPM I am able to reach the desired speed which I was able to reach earlier also before the problem came.
The pic shows that the plug is running at correct temperature. The gap is pre-set to 0.9 which is the spec for ZMA. I guess your's is an Iridium plug,which does not require any adjustment...Originally posted by acs1207 View PostI'd been running on AFR 3 turns out for more than 800 km and this is the state of the spark plug . Can you guys please tell me whether I'm running
lean ?
Also is the gap correct ?
If a clearer pic is needed I'll get one .
Here is a pic of my G power plug after 800 Kms
I am getting 38 or more kms per liter in city , after the Emulsion tube mod.
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horn & wiring problem...
last week i had given my zma at svc as headlight was not working... pass light & pilot lights were working... also checked the headlight switches with tester & it was working too... the svc guys fixed the problem & said that the wiring had loose contact... they billed me for a h/l bulb which got blown due to short-circuit when they tested the wiring...
after i took my bike from the svc, i noticed that the horn was producing only a "puck puck" sound... i thought it would be the adjustment screw... but when i tighted the adjustment screw & pressed horn button, the wires to the horn got hot & smoke started comming from the horn... now the horn was completely dead with now sound at all, even after tuning the adjustment screw...
so i bought a roots smartone low-tone single horn (3A) & connected to the old horn's wires... still i get only "puck puck" sound with a slight dim in all the lights of the bike... so i checked the fuses & found the blue 15A blade fuse to be blown & was tied with copper wire (bloody svc guys)... replaced it with a spare i had... then i connected the new horn directly to the battery & it worked with no problems...
so i bought a roots 3pin 10A horn relay & connected the horn to it as per the diagram that came with the relay... now, when i press horn button i get a short beep from the horn & the console lights turn on & start to flicker even with ignition key in off...
i'm not able to find why this happens... could it be that the svc guys did something with the wiring? my old horn was working perfectly till i gave it to svc...
please help...
everything stock except battery: amaron probike rider 9A beta seriesIt does feel great to have a tank of petrol between your legs & explosions just under it.
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Your SVC had indeed screwed up your wiring...I have the same Amaron 9 AH with 55/60 halogen and twin horns of 2 Amps each, and without any relay anywhere..so far I had faced no electrical problem at all at any time.Originally posted by blACk_pANthER View Posti'm not able to find why this happens... could it be that the svc guys did something with the wiring? my old horn was working perfectly till i gave it to svc...
please help...
everything stock except battery: amaron probike rider 9A beta seriesWhen Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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psr ji,Originally posted by psr View PostYour SVC had indeed screwed up your wiring...I have the same Amaron 9 AH with 55/60 halogen and twin horns of 2 Amps each, and without any relay anywhere..so far I had faced no electrical problem at all at any time.
any DIY solutions?
i don't want to go to that crappy svc again..It does feel great to have a tank of petrol between your legs & explosions just under it.
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Originally posted by blACk_pANthER View Postlast week i had given my zma at svc as headlight was not working... pass light & pilot lights were working... also checked the headlight switches with tester & it was working too... the svc guys fixed the problem & said that the wiring had loose contact... they billed me for a h/l bulb which got blown due to short-circuit when they tested the wiring...
after i took my bike from the svc, i noticed that the horn was producing only a "puck puck" sound... i thought it would be the adjustment screw... but when i tighted the adjustment screw & pressed horn button, the wires to the horn got hot & smoke started comming from the horn... now the horn was completely dead with now sound at all, even after tuning the adjustment screw...
so i bought a roots smartone low-tone single horn (3A) & connected to the old horn's wires... still i get only "puck puck" sound with a slight dim in all the lights of the bike... so i checked the fuses & found the blue 15A blade fuse to be blown & was tied with copper wire (bloody svc guys)... replaced it with a spare i had... then i connected the new horn directly to the battery & it worked with no problems...
so i bought a roots 3pin 10A horn relay & connected the horn to it as per the diagram that came with the relay... now, when i press horn button i get a short beep from the horn & the console lights turn on & start to flicker even with ignition key in off...
i'm not able to find why this happens... could it be that the svc guys did something with the wiring? my old horn was working perfectly till i gave it to svc...
please help...
everything stock except battery: amaron probike rider 9A beta series
The SVC guys has played too much with your wiring's . Get back to them or aother svc . If you want to fix it yourself then open the front fairing & look carefully in wiring , is there any extra wire ? Generally similar color wire would be attached to each other , as you headlight is not working so might they have changed the supply stock wire sky blue in color , not sure as i have lost the karizma wiring diagram i snapped & also deleted from here as it's of poor quality . Check is there they have removed that wire & added another .
Try to collect that wiring diagram if any one have saved it .
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i can understand some basic wiring... i've studied them in high school... i do pc wiring & routing... internal & external... never tried bikes though until yesterday...Originally posted by psr View PostUnless you can understand circuits ,.. wiring, and connections in particular it is not DIY.
actually i don't know any good svcs in my area... i also took the bike to a few local mechs... on seeing the digital console, they are saying that it's computer stuff & refuse to do anything...Originally posted by Above_All View PostThe SVC guys has played too much with your wiring's . Get back to them or aother svc . If you want to fix it yourself then open the front fairing & look carefully in wiring , is there any extra wire ? Generally similar color wire would be attached to each other , as you headlight is not working so might they have changed the supply stock wire sky blue in color , not sure as i have lost the karizma wiring diagram i snapped & also deleted from here as it's of poor quality . Check is there they have removed that wire & added another .
Try to collect that wiring diagram if any one have saved it .
ANYONE OUT THERE WHO HAS KARIZMA WIRING DIAGRAM, PLEASE POST IT...
the "console turning on when pressing horn button with key off" problem turns out to be something with the earthing wire(black) from the horn... this wire is shared between all the wires from the left handle switch box... so i cut the wire out & made a stand-alone earth wire only for the horn... hence the problem seems to be solved...
i removed the entire wires in the left handle switch box... checked all the wires... re-soldered the horn switch connections... cleaned all connector pins on the horn, relay & battery... finally when i press the horn button, there is a "tick" sound from the relay & a "buzz" from the horn... this has happened to me earlier too, but that was due to loose connection on the horn... so, i checked for any loose connections but couldn't find any...
also, i noticed that when i take the earth wires of the horn & horn button & rub it on any metal part of the bike that din't have paint while pressing the horn button, the horn works... that is, rubbing the earth wires of the horn wiring on the chassis & pressing the horn button simultaneously makes the horn work...
any guesses ???
lastly, would anyone be kind enough to open up their left handle's switch box to click a photo & post it here... because i'm having a problem with reassembling a part... don't know in what orientation it goes in... it is something of the indicator... i'm attaching a picture it here... thanks in advance...Last edited by blACk_pANthER; 02-09-2012, 06:48 PM.It does feel great to have a tank of petrol between your legs & explosions just under it.
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I think the wiring harness is the culprit,There may be some cracks inside the insulation or anything like that?
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maybe... i changed all the horn wiring except the horn switch positive wire... will change that too...Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View PostI think the wiring harness is the culprit,There may be some cracks inside the insulation or anything like that?
It does feel great to have a tank of petrol between your legs & explosions just under it.
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