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  • #10966
    Originally posted by psr View Post
    Poor quality of Gasoline,both in respect of Octane and contamination will cause problem...almost everyday I ride 40 Kms and do rev up to 6 K RPM from 4 K RPM,with/without pillion and not once I had faced the problem of knocking...
    Please check for any air leaks or blockage of jets due to debris in petrol...check also for proper TPS working ...the TPS connector has 3 wires. Measure the center wire voltage with a Digital multimeter.With the ignition switched turned on, at minimum throttle it should read 0.5 volts,and as you twist the throttle should increase linearly to 4.5 volts at WOT.
    Spot on sir, I seriously doubt the TPS malfunctioning, cause there's no rocket feel after 5k like before, the bike just keeps on gradually climbing.

    Should we unplug the TPS wires from the top of the carb and check or should be do it while its in contact with the carb. And my digital multimeter has 2 wires, the red and the black, which wires should be connected to the center wire??? And where should the remaining one's be connected to???
    Motorcycling Experience:
    2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
    2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
    2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
    2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
    2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
    2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

    The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
    Adios Comrades!
    A.P. 2018

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    • #10967
      Originally posted by psr View Post
      I did notice it and mentioned it to my family,and friends...the next day morning the Tsunami hit our coast. Why did it not happen the previous day?
      He may have postponed it to next day in which you were not in the beach. And you have deliberately omitted the other events I have mentioned.

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      • #10968
        With regard to oil.

        Did an oil change today, after riding just 330Kms with the Golden HH 10W30 oil, switched to Yamalube 20W40, technically I have'nt since the bike's still being drained, but will post the ride report shortly i.e maybe tonight itself. Was actually in search of Motul 3000, but due to scarcity had to settle with Yamalube in vain.

        The Golden 10W30 surprisingly upon draining was Red in colour, guess, thats cause the oil I used before it was Gulf Pride 4T Plus.

        Yeah and almost forgot the price was a whooping 270Rs.
        Motorcycling Experience:
        2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
        2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
        2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
        2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
        2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
        2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

        The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
        Adios Comrades!
        A.P. 2018

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        • #10969
          Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
          Spot on sir, I seriously doubt the TPS malfunctioning, cause there's no rocket feel after 5k like before, the bike just keeps on gradually climbing.

          Should we unplug the TPS wires from the top of the carb and check or should be do it while its in contact with the carb. And my digital multimeter has 2 wires, the red and the black, which wires should be connected to the center wire??? And where should the remaining one's be connected to???
          The TPS should stay connected to the wire loom to get the readings....connect the black wire to earth/body of bike..connect the red wire to the center wire of connector..Even if you connect other way around, the DMM will show -ve voltage instead of +ve volts..and no harm will be done.
          In my bike I get the growling and rush of acceleration after 4K RPM onwards
          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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          • #10970
            Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
            With regard to oil.

            Did an oil change today, after riding just 330Kms with the Golden HH 10W30 oil, switched to Yamalube 20W40, technically I have'nt since the bike's still being drained, but will post the ride report shortly i.e maybe tonight itself. Was actually in search of Motul 3000, but due to scarcity had to settle with Yamalube in vain.

            The Golden 10W30 surprisingly upon draining was Red in colour, guess, thats cause the oil I used before it was Gulf Pride 4T Plus.

            Yeah and almost forgot the price was a whooping 270Rs.
            Tilt the bike towards the gear shifter side to drain out the old oil fully,otherwise the residue of old oil will still remain inside.
            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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            • #10971
              [QUOTE=Aneesh@4GHz;773805]
              Alignment problem,check alignment and make sure both sides are correct.
              but i bike is very stable at high speed,what coud be other problem??and is that m45 is direct fit?or requred other mods??
              Thanks aneesh for repling
              Last edited by Ramborider; 02-18-2012, 07:29 PM.

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              • #10972
                Originally posted by psr View Post
                Tilt the bike towards the gear shifter side to drain out the old oil fully,otherwise the residue of old oil will still remain inside.
                Did'nt know that was recommended, anyways will do it. And Sir, have a query, I've seen an Xbhpian drain his FZ and the procedure he used to completely get rid of the old oil was by removing the spark plug and cranking the self starter. Is this in any way recomended??? And wont it cause the engine to partially seize or anything???
                Motorcycling Experience:
                2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                Adios Comrades!
                A.P. 2018

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                • #10973
                  Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                  Did'nt know that was recommended, anyways will do it. And Sir, have a query, I've seen an Xbhpian drain his FZ and the procedure he used to completely get rid of the old oil was by removing the spark plug and cranking the self starter. Is this in any way recomended??? And wont it cause the engine to partially seize or anything???
                  removing the plug will enable the engine to turn without strain and starter will consume less current ..but you need the engine to be at rest for all the oil to flow down and drain as moving the engine internal parts will lead to engine oil circulation, plus chance of seizure is present.
                  When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                  • #10974
                    Originally posted by psr View Post
                    removing the plug will enable the engine to turn without strain and starter will consume less current ..but you need the engine to be at rest for all the oil to flow down and drain as moving the engine internal parts will lead to engine oil circulation, plus chance of seizure is present.
                    Sir, followed your method and drained completely by tilting the bike, and refilled with 1L and ran the bike for 2KM's and checked the oil mark and it was at the Maximum mark. Guess a job well done.

                    Initial review.

                    Even though the box says its 20W40, the acceleration is peppy, just like using the regular 10W30 HH oil. Guess that's due to it being MA spec. Anyways, by next week will post a complete review after going for long run's at higher speed's. Today the best I was able to achieve with 1/4th throttle was 90Kmph.

                    Another query sir, are the TPS wires accessible from the handlebar, or is it only possible via the carb side, cause today tried to measure @ carb side, but was'nt able to do it due to it being inaccessible.
                    Motorcycling Experience:
                    2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                    2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                    2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                    2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                    2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                    2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                    The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                    Adios Comrades!
                    A.P. 2018

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                    • #10975
                      Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                      Sir, followed your method and drained completely by tilting the bike, and refilled with 1L and ran the bike for 2KM's and checked the oil mark and it was at the Maximum mark. Guess a job well done.
                      actually, is it 900ml or 1L or 1.2L oil change for the zma ???
                      just asking coz i'm getting mixed opinions...
                      & the last time i filled 1L, oil was above dipstick max & i broke a few seals too...
                      It does feel great to have a tank of petrol between your legs & explosions just under it.
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                      • #10976
                        Originally posted by blACk_pANthER View Post
                        actually, is it 900ml or 1L or 1.2L oil change for the zma ???
                        just asking coz i'm getting mixed opinions...
                        & the last time i filled 1L, oil was above dipstick max & i broke a few seals too...
                        1.2L if crank case opened.
                        1L if drained by tilting the bike.
                        900ML if drained normally as per instruction manual.

                        No worries if you fill excess oil, cause if by chance you do so then the oil will be blown out through the crank case breather tube into the air filter box. And as in your case will be passed out through the duckbill breather tube.
                        Motorcycling Experience:
                        2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                        2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                        2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                        2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                        2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                        2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                        The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                        Adios Comrades!
                        A.P. 2018

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                        • #10977
                          Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                          Sir, followed your method and drained completely by tilting the bike, and refilled with 1L and ran the bike for 2KM's and checked the oil mark and it was at the Maximum mark. Guess a job well done.

                          Initial review.

                          Even though the box says its 20W40, the acceleration is peppy, just like using the regular 10W30 HH oil. Guess that's due to it being MA spec. Anyways, by next week will post a complete review after going for long run's at higher speed's. Today the best I was able to achieve with 1/4th throttle was 90Kmph.

                          Another query sir, are the TPS wires accessible from the handlebar, or is it only possible via the carb side, cause today tried to measure @ carb side, but was'nt able to do it due to it being inaccessible.
                          Oil level check should be done on main stand ,after 10 minutes of switching off engine.
                          The TPS wire connector will be visible under the tank,after removing the kicker side ,fiber/plastic side panel..and looking under the tank and slightly pulling on the TPS wire bunch.

                          Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                          1.2L if crank case opened.
                          1L if drained by tilting the bike.
                          900ML if drained normally as per instruction manual.

                          No worries if you fill excess oil, cause if by chance you do so then the oil will be blown out through the crank case breather tube into the air filter box. And as in your case will be passed out through the duckbill breather tube.
                          The excess oil will also flow into the Rotor/Generator side ,since it is part of the crankcase....which is why with excess filling of oil , it will leak through the crank case center screw on the gear shifter side.To check remove the center screw and start the engine...you will get oil spray,and air pumping through the screw opening.
                          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                          • #10978
                            Originally posted by Ramborider View Post
                            but i bike is very stable at high speed,what coud be other problem??and is that m45 is direct fit?or requred other mods??
                            Thanks aneesh for repling
                            Yes,M45 is a direct fit,there will be 2-3mm gap between the tire and the chain case.

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                            • #10979
                              even my m45 tire also faul in support patti so i had placed spacer between support patti bolt near tire side,i will upload pic tomorow.

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                              • #10980
                                Originally posted by Ramborider View Post
                                even my m45 tire also faul in support patti so i had placed spacer between support patti bolt near tire side,i will upload pic tomorow.
                                Me too welded and bended the Linkage Rod and put some spacers to avoid rubbing.




                                But many new ZMA owners had done it without any mods.

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