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I don't know about the norm or rule, but the power values at wheel are generally low and companies/manufacturers don't prefer to quote low values. If manufacturers don't follow one rule, then there will be hell lot of confusion. For example if Honda says the power values at wheel of CBR250R's as 17bhp (approximately figure) and for Karizma if Hero Honda quotes 17bhp at crank, there will be lot of confusion and general public will believe the power of CBR and Karizma are same.
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Other than that there is another issue present If the power is calculated at rear wheel then the variables are greater I.e Even chain slack and lubrication can cause a difference, and that too from piece to piece, eg. If we both purchase ZMA's then yours might be 14.7 and mine 14.3. But when calculated at crank the chance of variance is so low that its negligible.Motorcycling Experience:
2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!
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Yes! You are spot on.Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
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Ignore this; I am gonna get all these plugs.Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
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I need 1 anna!Originally posted by SriramEfunds View PostGot some NGK G power plugs for one of our active members. However, got few extra, if anyone wants let me know.
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Neither is the Max torque ,the maximum Air Breathing stage, nor is the Max HP....Air breathing is independent of this.Originally posted by acs1207 View PostThe rpm mentioned was the max power producing ones . ZMA @ 8500 rpm won't be giving out the maximum of 17 BHP .
Is there a 'software' rev limiter for the ZMA ? For the ZMA to be able to reach 9500 rpm in top gear something like I did to my ride is required .142.5 kmph in the OE set-up is not attainable . NOS is 'destructive' in the long run . For daily use it's not feasible .
As you said , parameters like compression ratio , timing , valve size/opening time/number etc are varied to get required results . Both the Duke and 200NS even though having more power , max out @ 136 kmph .
BTW is the power measured at the crank or at the rear wheel ( in Indian scenario )?
Due to quality issues of fuel available , vehicles launched in India are de-tuned and made less powerful than their counterparts elsewhere . I guess you can see that even in cars .
The Rev limiter in ZMA can be due to programmed logic or wave shaping circuit..unless we open one of the module we cannot be sure.
so it is clear power need not mean higher speed .Both the Duke and 200NS even though having more power , max out @ 136 kmph .
Power of most automobiles is mentioned as measured at the crank,because it is repeatable...Dyno figures are measured at the wheel.
India has some funny rules applicable from Humans to Automobiles, which makes many design,developer, to confirm to it, to sell the product in the market.When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.Comment
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One friend is transforming his Karizma-R into ZMR . One of big task is Speedometer assembly change .
But today we sucessfully matched the ZMR speedometer to Karizma-R .
Just the RTMI is not working & having issue with the FI light will sort it out later as its night .
Not a big task just 7 wire needs rearranged .
No pics but will capture & post if some one needs & interested .
It took couple of hours as Karizma-R wiring diagram i have is not clear .
Sorry if anyone feels its off topic & not to be posted here .Comment
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You would have noticed that this thread has some very innovative and progressive sharing taking place with no egos or altercations ...so far...Originally posted by Above_All View Post
So go ahead ..we are all Ears and Eyes...eager to learn and share.
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+1.Originally posted by psr View PostYou would have noticed that this thread has some very innovative and progressive sharing taking place with no egos or altercations ...so far...
So go ahead ..we are all Ears and Eyes...eager to learn and share.
Above_All, this is a Karizma thread; where else you post modifications of Karizma if not this.
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Dude, its easily available here in Mumbai, why trouble Sriram to send it all the way from Chennai. Let me know if you need the name & address of the dealer & I`ll be more than happy to help you.Originally posted by siddhesh View Postsend me 1...Comment
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ya i noe its available but just posted coz i thought i havnt put any thing here in these days n thanks fo the help will other u wen i need 1...Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
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interesting. The whole yard? I mean, including FI & oil cooled?. Or cosmetic only?Originally posted by Above_All View PostComment
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Yes the Fi part is what i am very much interested to know...i guess it is only cosmetic since Fi will involve IAT,O2 Lambda sensor,ECU integration along with Fuel pump...and the entire Wire Harness change....Originally posted by kaynmantis View PostWhen Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.Comment
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Hi everyone
I have a question, My bike completed 3000+ kms, the 2nd service was done a week ago. The SVC ppl changed the oil with the regular OE oil,
Can I change to 20w40 grade oil now ? Or should I for any reason wait for the 3rd service ?
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