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  • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post

    BTW , if you're not using relay , is the full 55W being used by the bulb ? I mean is stock wiring capable of supplying 55 W to the bulb ? A side by side comparo with a bike which has relay might put the doubt to rest .
    Sir , it's true I have not posted a full review post the 235 upgrade , but most of the observations have been posted at one time or another .
    I'm not into drag so can't say about 'off the block' effect .
    The power has increased , but it's more obvious in the higher rpm range . Post 4k rpm it starts pushing out power in a linear manner and the surge is addictive - I ride above 4k rpm most of the time in 3rd,4th and 5th gear .
    Would you say my engine efficiency has increased? "Cause I'm not getting the 'rpm X .015' thing correct - at 4k rpm the bike speedo will be showing @ 67 kmph . Earlier there was only a slight difference in the ratio , now it's way off mark .
    Mileage is what's confusing me . I think my fuel tap has clogged since my observations show I'm getting @ 30 kmpl for some fillings and 38 for others . My last petrol filling was 28 km ago . I filled in 50/- worth of petrol which was 720 ml ( normally I fill 2.88L for 200/- or 1.44 for 100/- . Changed to 50/- filling to check the mileage ) So now I'm getting 38 kmpl and running .. Since my riding is in RAYP mode , that's not an accurate indicator . I'm just not willing to sacrifice my pleasure of riding for economy . Anyway the mileage is not lesser than what I had before the upgrade .
    One aspect I've noticed is the vibes are more (slightly more) pronounced than before . It isn't disturbing or anything , but it is there . It feels more like a beast about to pounce now .
    All in all , I'm pretty satisfied . Actually I didn't do it to out run others ., In a mallu film there's a dialogue "sadhanam kayyilundu" meaning I have it . The thought 'if it can be done , then why not' is what took me to up-size .
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    Sorry to know that you met with a Accident, and hope no serious injury to you.

    Thanks for the update....and happy to see that you are enjoying the new power and zipping around...
    The piston top height and compatibility is always measured from the Gudgeon pin opening to the crown(top).If this height is equal ,between the two pistons,you do not have to add thick Gaskets...You had only changed the piston, so the ratio of 15kms per 1,000 RPM stays at the 5 th gear...if you are getting erroneous reading then check your battery and speedo connection and earthing...
    The job done looks good indeed and hope you have an enjoyable experience.
    Good Luck.
    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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    • Originally posted by ekm-biker View Post
      Sorry to hear about the incident. Hope you are o.k. Just a thought . cbz c.g may fix ..Last month I had asked at Focuz auto. and they quoted 650/- ph. no. 0484-2337988 just check whether they are in kannur.
      Thanx for your concern . I'm OK , just a scratch since the CG buffered the effect . I'll try for Dazzler cg or CBZ cg now . Must have one 'cause now I've seen how I've been saved by one .
      Originally posted by psr View Post
      Sorry to know that you met with a Accident, and hope no serious injury to you.

      Thanks for the update....and happy to see that you are enjoying the new power and zipping around...
      The piston top height and compatibility is always measured from the Gudgeon pin opening to the crown(top).If this height is equal ,between the two pistons,you do not have to add thick Gaskets...You had only changed the piston, so the ratio of 15kms per 1,000 RPM stays at the 5 th gear...if you are getting erroneous reading then check your battery and speedo connection and earthing...
      The job done looks good indeed and hope you have an enjoyable experience.
      Good Luck.
      The ratio here varies since the 220's piston has curved surface and the air from the additional cc makes the compression ratio differ . None of the private workshops here has the equipment for compression testing .
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      • @ACS Sir -
        Thanks a ton. Finally have cleared my doubts, and I have to say, awesome workmanship. But now another one rises.
        Since you've mentioned added vibes, till which RPM do you feel the added vibes? My assumption is that It'll be there till around 4k'ish and then vanish after that, is it??? (@PSR Sir - The answer is yes.)

        I've read that in the P220 we can increase displacement by offsetting the big end by 3mm, which will increase the stroke by 6mm so 67mmx68.4mm = 241cc.
        But my query is, then wont the piston be at a lower position at TDC comparing stock? And wont that lower the compression???

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        Motorcycling Experience:
        2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
        2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
        2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
        2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
        2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
        2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

        The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
        Adios Comrades!
        A.P. 2018

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        • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
          I've read that in the P220 we can increase displacement by offsetting the big end by 3mm, which will increase the stroke by 6mm so 67mmx68.4mm = 241cc.
          But my query is, then wont the piston be at a lower position at TDC comparing stock? And wont that lower the compression???
          I thought I was the worst living being in Maths and calculations...You seem to be a competitor to me..
          If you increase the stroke length from stock it means at BTDC the Piston will be Lower than stock and at TDC ,Piston will be higher than stock....so at TDC it will hit the HEAD & VALVES.
          With increased stroke length the Compression will increase..
          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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          • Originally posted by psr View Post
            I thought I was the worst living being in Maths and calculations...You seem to be a competitor to me..
            If you increase the stroke length from stock it means at BTDC the Piston will be Lower than stock and at TDC ,Piston will be higher than stock....so at TDC it will hit the HEAD & VALVES.
            With increased stroke length the Compression will increase..
            I've tried contacting the guy who posted the info in the first place but didnt get a response, so asked a guy on FB running a P180 with 76mm piston. And this was his reply,

            "Is it possible to move the big end?

            very possible I've done it with my current bike from 56.4 to 62.4


            Whats the procedure?


            plan to do it also for my next project using P220 from 62 to 68
            the impact is you'll get more torque


            I mean how to move it?



            I get that
            so how to move the big end? I mean which direction.


            moving the connecting road to the outer part of the crank
            or you can change the connecting road which has longer rod

            sorry connecting rod"
            Motorcycling Experience:
            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
            Adios Comrades!
            A.P. 2018

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            • xbhp is back!!
              Last edited by ryan.virgo; 12-12-2012, 02:25 PM.

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              • xBhp returns with new interface.........wonderful
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                • Hello friends has anyone here changed their handle bars to a lower height one or to clip on, if so please share the picture and experience thanks.

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                  • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                    I've tried contacting the guy who posted the info in the first place but didnt get a response, so asked a guy on FB running a P180 with 76mm piston. And this was his reply,

                    "Is it possible to move the big end?

                    very possible I've done it with my current bike from 56.4 to 62.4


                    Whats the procedure?


                    plan to do it also for my next project using P220 from 62 to 68
                    the impact is you'll get more torque


                    I mean how to move it?



                    I get that
                    so how to move the big end? I mean which direction.


                    moving the connecting road to the outer part of the crank
                    or you can change the connecting road which has longer rod

                    sorry connecting rod"
                    WOW !!!!! moved big end from 56.4 to 62.4 ?????
                    and use a Longer con rod to get longer stroke ??????

                    I learn NEW ,NEW, basics from you ASHWIN.....Keep it up.
                    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                    • Ashwin,read the article that showed the pic . It can be done as they say, but I doubt it can be done in zma . Also , I think it can be done in P150/180/200 ..lengthening conrod to get more stroke..???don't think so.
                      Last edited by acs1207; 12-13-2012, 02:31 PM.
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                      • Originally posted by psr View Post
                        WOW !!!!! moved big end from 56.4 to 62.4 ?????
                        and use a Longer con rod to get longer stroke ??????

                        I learn NEW ,NEW, basics from you ASHWIN.....Keep it up.
                        Dont blame me, I just posted to clarify if its possible on the ZMA.

                        And sir, please re read
                        -56.4 or 56.4 to 62.4 means 6mm difference in stroke meaning 3mm shift in big end.

                        -Who said anything about longer conrod giving longer stroke??? AFAIK isnt it the other way around.

                        Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                        Ashwin,read the article that showed the pic . It can be done as they say, but I doubt it can be done in zma . Also , I think it can be done in P150/180/200 ..lengthening conrod to get more stroke..???don't think so.
                        Which article?? All I see is a pic when I click that link. :O

                        Edit-
                        Sorry guys, I noticed the article only now. I thought that he just sent me an image.
                        Last edited by ashwinprakas; 12-13-2012, 04:04 PM.
                        Motorcycling Experience:
                        2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                        2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                        2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                        2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                        2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                        2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                        The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                        Adios Comrades!
                        A.P. 2018

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                        • Originally posted by Shabeer Khan View Post





                          Hello friends has anyone here changed their handle bars to a lower height one or to clip on, if so please share the picture and experience thanks.
                          Hi Shabeer Khan , that's a good looking steed u got there . Which is the crash guard you've put on it ? Is it Stunners ?
                          Is Stunner cg ( old model) available anywhere? I'd like to buy a couple ...

                          Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                          Dont blame me, I just posted to clarify if its possible on the ZMA.

                          And sir, please re read
                          -56.4 or 56.4 to 62.4 means 6mm difference in stroke meaning 3mm shift in big end.

                          -Who said anything about longer conrod giving longer stroke??? AFAIK isnt it the other way around.

                          Which article?? All I see is a pic when I click that link. :O

                          Edit-
                          Sorry guys, I noticed the article only now. I thought that he just sent me an image.
                          Ashwin , even the minimum conversion I've done is difficult to do by many . How easy do you think taking the innards out and putting a new one in will be ?
                          Here's the pic of the piston top

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                          The two dents that you see are hand carved .
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                          • Could you guys recommend a good polish or wax for my Black ZMA R. My 2009 model ZMA has lost it's shine, and the paint on the front fairing seems to have faded away.
                            If you don't ride in the rain, you don't ride !!

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                            • while riding in traffic or using bit of clutch(not to release clutch fully) after while when depres clutch fully there is small sound comes from clutch side,sound like dhaap,its not from chain or sprocket.is that normal?

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                              • Originally posted by Shabeer Khan View Post
                                Hello friends has anyone here changed their handle bars to a lower height one or to clip on, if so please share the picture and experience thanks.




                                It turned out to be so costly .

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