HI,

I am new to this forum.I am riding Honda Unicorn for last 6 years(touring and commuting),now finally decided to have Karizma-R specially for touring.I am bit confused-
Here in showroom there are two models of KArizma R, one is Hero Honda badge and other is Hero Moto Corp badge, someone suggesting me to go for Hero Honda badge Karizma as this model is having USHA piston kit which is better and overall engine refinement of Hero Honda badge Karizma R is better than current Hero Moto Corp KArizma R.Is it true?

Please go for the Hero Honda badged one mate. The Hero Moto one is probably 100% indegenised(locally made with local raw materials/ dies and other components used). And as most would agree, the more things get indegenised the more trouble the consumer is in. There may not be that much of a difference, but to be on the safer side grab the 'Hero Honda' one dude. You won't believe but if you ask some of the 'old Karizma' or 225 riders who have had the bike for a long time, like me, the overall make of the old one is better quality than the 'R' badged one like magwheels etc. get the picture?


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That's wat even I said bro, 1L is just fine. But I always pour a little more than 1L during every change for peace of mind.

Regarding the bold part, didn't you risk dust particles entering the engine? Extra oil (200 ml in ur case) wasn't so dangerous IMO.

You should ideally continue to use a 10W30 grade mineral oil with JASO MA2 specifications uptill 5000 kilometres, preferably of some other brand like Motul, Valvoline, Elf, Gulf or Shell, whichever is available to you. After that you can switch to a Semi-synthetic 20W40 grade oil. I would suggest Motul.
You can use 1liter oil. Drain old oil properly by tilting bike to left side while draining.
As for idle screw, after you have ridden your bike for about 10-15 minutes, you should set it so the engine is steady at 1100 to 1300 RPM. Have fun!


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Karizma drain is only 900 ml (when drained on center stand). You can drain up to 1L if you bend the bike to both sides and allow to drain for long time. Where as for ZMR, the drain is 1.1L. So Divya Sharan, 1.1L in your bike is the correct amount to be filled.

And 200ml of extra oil creates lots of pressure on internals and there are higher chances that the oil seals go kaput.

in what rpm i can ride safe in my r now.

has any one of you used this oil in ur Karizma? is it ok to use this grade of oil in our Bike?
Retails for 280rs although its printed 355rs in it

Looks like SS. If it's genuine valvoline then its awesome for Karizma. But if I was you I wouldn't use 20W50 unless my bike has completed at least 15000-20000 kilometers or if I drive like a maniac most of the time


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Didn't know this.

1.5k done. 2 oil changes done. Hold your horses till 2k kms, but you can ride anywhere upto 3-8k RPM. Give short bursts and don't sustain high RPMs for long. Ride between 4-5k RPM normally. That's it.

thanks...is there any drawbacks in filling the tyres with nitrogen please tell me the benefits too.

I've taken your advice on this I've removed the front fairing and took it apart. will post some pics. I'm using feviquick and M-seal to fix it and will see if it'll fix the rattling.
The two knobs on the headlight which lock in to the frame were broken and must've been causing the rattling.

Completed 300.8Kms
On extended rides of 100+kms at a stretch, oil is still doing its job on the engine, but when it comes to transmission the case is different, the shifts become butter smooth at lower revs and will be water smooth only at high revs i.e when doing a continuous downshift like 5~4~3~2 etc, and 5 will be butter smooth, but the rest will be water smooth cause the revs will be high by then due to the engine braking.
And even under the boiling sun in traffic bike doesnt heatup, normally when I get stuck in Chinnakada traffic while returning from college, my legs will be roast, but today nothing of that sort happened, and during extended rides the rpm was kept at 6~8k on highways and 4~5 in traffic, with a few halts at signals, and when I got back home and turned the engine off, the TAK TAK we get from exhaust was also very very low, normally when I keep high revs and halt then it would make lot of loud continuous and overlapping TAK's but today it was like a gentle TAK once in a few seconds.

Climbed a few steeps in final gear with pillion with revs around 3~4k and in between gave sharp bursts of acceleration to see if clutch would slip, but fortunately it didnt, though once engine knocked for a few seconds, which made me fee sad

In short positive results till now. Lets see what the future has in store for me.

good to know about your positive response i will switch to 15w40 gulf duramax used in our ashok leyland trucks ,but after running-in.what is that TAK TAK sound comes when bikes engine are heated up??

Thats the catcon cooling down, common in most bikes.

Its not the catalytic converter but the steel shroud on the silencer expanding and shrinking at a different rate, remove it and there wont be any noise had exactly the same from my old CBZ and at that time I made round washers from leather and used them to secure the bolts and it worked