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**karthiktup** · 02-05-2011, 01:50 PM

Where i can get pilot lights at bangalore / chennai.

**hardcorebiker** · 02-05-2011, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Ascetic View Post

Does angel eyes and led pilots void warranty??

I dont think angel lights void the warranty. I personally asked the SVC people they said that your warranty wont void

**hardcorebiker** · 02-05-2011, 03:32 PM

Guys I am going to make my visor black soon using vinyl for 150 Rs(Thts what they charging here)

Can you suggest me some good looking stickers for the Visor? I mean some cool stickers for the Black Visor?

**Parth** · 02-05-2011, 04:24 PM

angel eyes will void warranty. LED pilot lamps won't

Guys, helen has done 7.5k kms now and I'm experiencing a bit of problem in braking. It is not as progressive as it was before, now braking doesn't start as soon as I start pulling the lever but the braking comes up suddenly. I haven't yet locked up my brakes due to this but it might happen. Last service was done 2.3k kms ago at 5.2k kms on the odo. What might be the problem here??

**Aravind** · 02-05-2011, 08:01 PM

Sorry to interrupt the ongoing discussion. I had posted this query in another thread but didn't get a reply.
R15 owners here please through some light on your experience on the off-tarmac rideability and comfort/ problems with R15. I know our fellow xbhpians would have even made it to Leh on R15, but practically on a day to day basis how does it fare. My place has motocross quality roads and I had my assumptions that R15 with its full fairing, thinner softer wheels/tyres will have a tough time(I have not ridden one yet)...whats your take

**abhimanyu31** · 02-05-2011, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by Parth View Post

angel eyes will void warranty. LED pilot lamps won't

Guys, helen has done 7.5k kms now and I'm experiencing a bit of problem in braking. It is not as progressive as it was before, now braking doesn't start as soon as I start pulling the lever but the braking comes up suddenly. I haven't yet locked up my brakes due to this but it might happen. Last service was done 2.3k kms ago at 5.2k kms on the odo. What might be the problem here??

You seem to have a problem with your break oil. Check if the colour of break oil is yellow. The darker it is, the more contaminated it is. Flush the oil and replace it with new fresh oil from a sealed container.

**Shivanshu** · 02-05-2011, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Parth View Post

angel eyes will void warranty. LED pilot lamps won't

Guys, helen has done 7.5k kms now and I'm experiencing a bit of problem in braking. It is not as progressive as it was before, now braking doesn't start as soon as I start pulling the lever but the braking comes up suddenly. I haven't yet locked up my brakes due to this but it might happen. Last service was done 2.3k kms ago at 5.2k kms on the odo. What might be the problem here??

Parth get it checked, it seems the flow of the brake fluid is not uniform, which leads to sudden braking. It may be air in the brake pipe or something. For this you will have to get it drained. Also check the fluid level. If possible, tie the brake lever to the handle and leave it overnight and see what response it gives the next day. And let us know about it.

Originally posted by Aravind View Post

Sorry to interrupt the ongoing discussion. I had posted this query in another thread but didn't get a reply.
R15 owners here please through some light on your experience on the off-tarmac rideability and comfort/ problems with R15. I know our fellow xbhpians would have even made it to Leh on R15, but practically on a day to day basis how does it fare. My place has motocross quality roads and I had my assumptions that R15 with its full fairing, thinner softer wheels/tyres will have a tough time(I have not ridden one yet)...whats your take

its alright brother, all points, issues n questions are valid here as far as it is about R15

well you know R15 is basically a track bike right, now logically a track bike is not meant to do offroading. but thanks to our country where "One Bike Does All". Similarly, R15 after leaving the tarmac, doesnt perform as per her standard. I have done some touring which required lot of riding on offorad. I did it and my Bike also did without any problem. But but the thing is neither it was as comfortable for me as it would have been on tarmac nor it was for the bike. The tyres doesnt grip on gravels, the sitting stance of this bike is of sportsbike, so you dont feel that much comfortable.

But yes I know few riders who have got Leh'ed more than couple of times on stock R15. Even my last tour included around 250kms of offroad with saddle bag weighing around 40kgs> Yes speed was slowed down, we (bike n me) were literally being tortured as in that distance we faced all type of offroad conditions, from small boulders, gravel, grit, loose sand, black ice, slush. Well the bike behaved as I wanted to but couldnt carry speed. As lot of things come in factor while riding in offroad conditions. But inspite of pressure on my wrist and shoulders, the next day I got up without any pain, and the rain God, did give a good wash to my bike which was otherwise completely in mud

My Advice- Since you have a motocross quality roads near your place, why dont you go and ride slowly and experience what it is. Though if its lot of loose dry mud, dont forget to wash her> and let us know how you felt

**Aravind** · 02-05-2011, 09:27 PM

@Shivanshu
Thanks bro for sharing your experience. Unfortunately none have my friends has an R15 so I can't have a first hand riding experience. I have to go with the forum's inputs. My Rx100 gives me a backache on these roads because of its poor suspension. R15 has lot better ones so it should be more comfortable.
But my concern is whether the bike will stand such riding? Will the thin wheels,the fairing et al, face problems? Did your bike have any issues after such rides?

**zerotosixty** · 02-05-2011, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by Aravind View Post

@Shivanshu
Thanks bro for sharing your experience. Unfortunately none have my friends has an R15 so I can't have a first hand riding experience. I have to go with the forum's inputs. My Rx100 gives me a backache on these roads because of its poor suspension. R15 has lot better ones so it should be more comfortable.
But my concern is whether the bike will stand such riding? Will the thin wheels,the fairing et al, face problems? Did your bike have any issues after such rides?

My daily commute to office includes two KMS of craters , pot holed roads and 10 KMS of blissful NH45. Its a pain in you know where to ride R15 on abysmal roads. But this has been my routine for the past 6 months with the bike. I can confidently say She has not rattled a teeny tiny bit all these days. If you want i can put a picture of the road i take to office from my home that should put out all doubts about the bike from your mind.

**Aravind** · 02-05-2011, 09:57 PM

@zerotosixty
Thanks man. That speaks a lot about the bike's build quality. That was a big concern for me. Thanks for your inputs

**tibby** · 02-05-2011, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by FATAL1TY - X View Post

warm up the engine before doing this

Oil Draining
its pretty easy, get a 19mm socket wrench/plug type wrench/ring spanner( make sure you DONT use an open type wrench. the r15 drain bolt is brittle and will break fairly easy) remove the bolt by turning it counter clockwise. a strainer and spring will come along with the drain bolt and its Oring. make sure to catch the oil using a pan. then clean the drain bolt, strainer and spring. if you are placing it somewhere then place it on a clean rag.

Fixing it back - make sure the Oring of the drain bolt is in its goove on the drain bolt. insert the strainer into the spring and place the spring on the inside of the drain bolt(strainer - spring - drainbolt. this must be the arrangement order). then with steady hands, fix it back. this is a tricky thing at first because of the spring, be patient and get the bolt in place and finger tighten it fully(the idea here is to save the bolt from cross threading and eventually stripping), you should be able to finger tighten it fully. then tighten the bolt using the wrench. here too care must be taken. do not overtighten the bolt. it WILL break easily. r15 drainbolt is not sealed by tention like in other motorcycles, it is sealed using an O ring. so you dont have to tighten the heck out of it.

Replacing Oil Filter
Oil filter requires an 8mm socket wrench. dont use an open wrech because it can strip the bolt's head. remove the three bolts holding the oil filter cover. remove the oil filter cover. there will be an Oring on the cover, make sure not to lose it. remove the oil filter. before fixing the new oil filter make sure to soak it in engine oil. then insert the new filter properly. make sure the Oring of the oil filter cover is sitting properly in its groove and then fix the oil filter cover. finger tighten all the three bolts and then tighten them using the wrench. please do not overtighten any of these bolts and try to tighten them uniformly, and you are done.

pour in the fresh oil and run it nice and easy for 2-3 kms or so(dont know the fact behind this, but it doesnt hurt anyone! so do it anyway). then you are good to go. check for leaks(there wont be any if you did it properly)

NB
Make sure you have all the necessary tools at hand. if you dont have any idea about tightening torques then please dont do it yourself. try to do this while placing the bike on a paddock stand or a center stand. protect your hands from getting burned by the hot oil or the exhaust. make sure to clean all the removed parts. any soil particles got into the engine will cause eventual trouble.

Thanks a ton for the detailed post.

This should help me do the oil replacement myselft, except the part in red which I have no clue of. So thats making me wary of my DIY plan.

I do have the 8mm T-spanner, but need to check for the 19mm one.

Originally posted by Shivanshu View Post

Tibby- I have done it but then dont remember the exact specifications of the tools. when you do it kindly do it with pics so that we all can see. Thanks

Chance Pe Dance huh!!

Will take pics, & create a DIY thread if I change the oil myself.

**Shivanshu** · 02-06-2011, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by Aravind View Post

@Shivanshu
Thanks bro for sharing your experience. Unfortunately none have my friends has an R15 so I can't have a first hand riding experience. I have to go with the forum's inputs. My Rx100 gives me a backache on these roads because of its poor suspension. R15 has lot better ones so it should be more comfortable.
But my concern is whether the bike will stand such riding? Will the thin wheels,the fairing et al, face problems? Did your bike have any issues after such rides?

Ohhh anytime brother, I did tour for 250kms without tarmac that itself says a lot isnt it, and the other tour which I did in rainy season where we got a stretch of around 40kms full of pot holes,there was no problem of any sort with neither the tyres nor the engine,. it was absolutely perfect without any problem. This bike is strong and durable, bring her on any road condition and she will take it smiling, unless you start abusing your bike, she will be always there.

The tyres are thin but strong, i didnt face any puncture while riding in offroad conditions at all. The alloys are strong, so no doubt about it as well. Fairing tends to get a bit loose after these type of rides (200km of offroading and around 40kms of pot hole roads), so you just have to tighten it. The only issue was after the ride the fairing needed to be tightened, and the chain clean, lubed n adjusted

Originally posted by tibby View Post

Chance Pe Dance huh!!

Will take pics, & create a DIY thread if I change the oil myself.

yeah as I am not good at it na brother ...toh dance karne mein kya ja raha hein bhai

post it in R15 garage thread and give a link here.

**FATAL1TY - X** · 02-06-2011, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by tibby View Post

Thanks a ton for the detailed post.

This should help me do the oil replacement myselft, except the part in red which I have no clue of. So thats making me wary of my DIY plan.

I do have the 8mm T-spanner, but need to check for the 19mm one.

the only thing meant about tightening torque is never tighten above the specified spec. as i said r15 drain bolt is brittle. i once broke the groove of the r15 drain bolt by overtightening it. i simply tightened r15's drain bolt like i used to tighten my rx100's drain bolt, and bingo! it broke! it is not that costly. just 75rs a piece, but is so hard to find. mine sat there in my garage for 2 months before i got a YFM "Raptor" 350 drain bolt from abroad as a temporary fix, and again it took close to a month to get the original drain bolt!

the moral of the story is DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN. and thats all that sentence mean.

again if you plan to put up a DIY thread on how to change oil and oil filter of r15, then post it in the DIY section of xbhp rather than the R15 garage thread. that thread is going downways for some time now. or if you can wait, i'll post one myself. mine's up for the 10k kms oil and filter change and i'll do it within 2 days.

**Aravind** · 02-06-2011, 03:00 AM

Originally posted by Shivanshu View Post

Ohhh anytime brother, I did tour for 250kms without tarmac that itself says a lot isnt it, and the other tour which I did in rainy season where we got a stretch of around 40kms full of pot holes,there was no problem of any sort with neither the tyres nor the engine,. it was absolutely perfect without any problem. This bike is strong and durable, bring her on any road condition and she will take it smiling, unless you start abusing your bike, she will be always there.

The tyres are thin but strong, i didnt face any puncture while riding in offroad conditions at all. The alloys are strong, so no doubt about it as well. Fairing tends to get a bit loose after these type of rides (200km of offroading and around 40kms of pot hole roads), so you just have to tighten it. The only issue was after the ride the fairing needed to be tightened, and the chain clean, lubed n adjusted

Thanks bro...i was quite concerned about this aspect..especially after reading about stray incidences of wheel rim bending...now at peace

**Shivanshu** · 02-06-2011, 03:05 AM

Originally posted by Aravind View Post

Thanks bro...i was quite concerned about this aspect..especially after reading about stray incidences of wheel rim bending...now at peace

no problem brother, the only thing to keep in mind is that r15 is a track bike, though she will ride anywhere you can control her. but dont over do it alrite. Ride Safe

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