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  • Originally posted by abhijit_joy View Post
    Need some input from you. How you have managed to install UG4 BCU. What are the changes you have done. Presently Iam using rewinded stator with APE RR. But you know the problem...In UG3 Everytime have to switch on/Off while self start. With your modification it can be avoided. One more thing.. Can I use the existing Stator with UG4 BCU as it has ignition coil & UG4 dont have ay ignition coil.
    i had changed whole wiring, cdi, bcu, lh and rh switches, stater relay, stator coil, magneto and charger to ape rr however ug3 coil can be used just you need to rewind all 7 poles and the ignition pole needs to be disconnected from it. the black one covered with insulation is the ignition pole
    and the ug3 ignition switch has 4 wire connector you can reroute it i had done every thing d.i.y. as acs were not doing it so i think your place also asc would not do that.
    they were saying to me that it cannot be done. but i am running from this setup around 1 year around 10000 km with 35 watt hid projector without any problems
    but this conversion would be costly because nearly every electrical parts are changed so it depends upon you.
    Last edited by rprathin; 03-19-2013, 12:40 AM.
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    • Originally posted by rajaselvam_1987 View Post
      Friends today i've installed the Hazard lights inspired by TVS phoenix on my twister as a weekend project.

      Check this video
      CB Twister Hazard lights - YouTube
      Great
      1. How did you put that push button on the digital meter? Did you drill a hole to pass a wire beneath? If so, is that waterproof?
      2. I liked the side lights near the rear shock-absorbers

      Is it possible to run a bright LED strip run through the entire length of the sides of the bike? This will be useful particularly useful for use in fogs, etc.

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      • This is not a query, but I am just telling what I did to my bike. I own a Yamaha Fazer 2012 model and it has twin headlights. The stock 35/35 headlight bulbs are pretty insufficient. Therefore I upgraded to a 35W 3000K H7 HID with projector on the left side headlamp. The projector was designed to have just the low beam but I removed it shutter so that it can be used as a high+low beam or full spread projector. On the right side headlamp, I simply changed the bulb to 55/60 w. To make it electrically feasible, I have wired them such that when the switch for low-beam is on, only the halogen light works, and when the high beam switch(and pass switch) is on the HID projector is works. So when only the HID is working, I have low + high beam working simultaneously with a single bulb.

        Now, here is a query. Does a 3000K HID(yellow-green) produce more lumens than a 4300K(brightest white) bulb? I have seen websites differing on this. See the below websites:

        Ag and Construction HID Lighting. MobileHID offers work HID lights for heavy duty machinery. HID Work Lights provide more lumen output than traditional halogen lights and provide a safer work environment.



        The first link differs from what the remaining two agree upon.

        Also, how to solve the problem of bulbs not being rated correctly for their K value? Many chinese bulbs are not rated correctly for their K value.
        Last edited by rx_rider; 03-19-2013, 03:00 AM.

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        • Originally posted by rprathin View Post
          i had changed whole wiring, cdi, bcu, lh and rh switches, stater relay, stator coil, magneto and charger to ape rr however ug3 coil can be used just you need to rewind all 7 poles and the ignition pole needs to be disconnected from it. the black one covered with insulation is the ignition pole
          and the ug3 ignition switch has 4 wire connector you can reroute it i had done every thing d.i.y. as acs were not doing it so i think your place also asc would not do that.
          they were saying to me that it cannot be done. but i am running from this setup around 1 year around 10000 km with 35 watt hid projector without any problems
          but this conversion would be costly because nearly every electrical parts are changed so it depends upon you.
          OMG... You have changed the entire electrical stuffs... I am running 55w HID & 55w Halogen (P220 Projector as AUX) with Rewinding & APE RR. I am happy with my electricals but AUX only at Highways. The only problem is with manual DC cutoff while Self Start. So I am thinking how to get rid of it. Planning to install a RR parallel with APE RR which will only work for triggering relay. So that when there will be no charging from STATOR, relay will cut off the line from Battery to BCU. Then I can do self start. Then after ignition, stator will generate the power, send it to APE & secondary RR. APE will work for battery as usual & secondary will send power the relay & relay will join the circuit (BATT with BCU). What do you say ??
          ... Abhijit
          Pulsar UG3 | 2008 | Full DC |
          Drive Safe !!!

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          • Planning to Install Philips extreme vision on my Fazer 2012 & Amaron 9Amp Battery...!!

            Any suggestions...? Current set up 35/35 too dim..!!! (any wiring needs to be changed ?)

            Regards,
            Rohan.
            DUKE390 | MotoGP | 46 | KTM

            Rides - Lost count
            Kms Covered so far 73,000 & Sold ( Yamaha Fazer153)
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            • Originally posted by abhijit_joy View Post
              OMG... You have changed the entire electrical stuffs... I am running 55w HID & 55w Halogen (P220 Projector as AUX) with Rewinding & APE RR. I am happy with my electricals but AUX only at Highways. The only problem is with manual DC cutoff while Self Start. So I am thinking how to get rid of it. Planning to install a RR parallel with APE RR which will only work for triggering relay. So that when there will be no charging from STATOR, relay will cut off the line from Battery to BCU. Then I can do self start. Then after ignition, stator will generate the power, send it to APE & secondary RR. APE will work for battery as usual & secondary will send power the relay & relay will join the circuit (BATT with BCU). What do you say ??
              Hello mate how did you manage to make a housing for the p220 projector to make it waterproof? Can you please post a pic of your current setup so that I can get some idea on how to do the same. Thanks.
              Yamaha R15 V1 2011
              Suzuki Access 125 2011

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              • Originally posted by abhijit_joy View Post
                OMG... You have changed the entire electrical stuffs... I am running 55w HID & 55w Halogen (P220 Projector as AUX) with Rewinding & APE RR. I am happy with my electricals but AUX only at Highways. The only problem is with manual DC cutoff while Self Start. So I am thinking how to get rid of it. Planning to install a RR parallel with APE RR which will only work for triggering relay. So that when there will be no charging from STATOR, relay will cut off the line from Battery to BCU. Then I can do self start. Then after ignition, stator will generate the power, send it to APE & secondary RR. APE will work for battery as usual & secondary will send power the relay & relay will join the circuit (BATT with BCU). What do you say ??
                relay won't work with just parallel charger or any charger battery needs to be there in the circuit and with parallel charger relay would blow because voltage would not be regulated
                i had tried this but didn't work may be adding capisitator relay would work.
                Last edited by rprathin; 03-19-2013, 11:54 PM.
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                • Bajaj Pulsar 180 UG IV Headlamp Not Working

                  I have a two year Pulsar 180 UG IV,
                  Came up with a weird problem, when i start my bike and turn on the headlamp it works for a few seconds and goes off. If i turned the keys off and again start it while engine running , the headlamp works for a few seconds and goes off again.
                  The pilot lamps are working fine . I had consulted bajaj service center, they told me to change the BCU , after replacing the BCU the problem still persists.
                  I approached many mechanics but they couldn't solve my problem. I have also checked all the wiring and had also replaced regulator but in vain the problem didn't stopped. Due to this reason i can't ride during night due to this issues. Please help me guys.

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                  • Originally posted by Fazer89 View Post
                    Planning to Install Philips extreme vision on my Fazer 2012 & Amaron 9Amp Battery...!!

                    Any suggestions...? Current set up 35/35 too dim..!!! (any wiring needs to be changed ?)

                    Regards,
                    Rohan.
                    Surely you can use. Even you can use your stock battery also but changing battery to higher capacity is a safer side

                    Originally posted by abhijit_joy View Post
                    OMG... You have changed the entire electrical stuffs... I am running 55w HID & 55w Halogen (P220 Projector as AUX) with Rewinding & APE RR. I am happy with my electricals but AUX only at Highways. The only problem is with manual DC cutoff while Self Start. So I am thinking how to get rid of it. Planning to install a RR parallel with APE RR which will only work for triggering relay. So that when there will be no charging from STATOR, relay will cut off the line from Battery to BCU. Then I can do self start. Then after ignition, stator will generate the power, send it to APE & secondary RR. APE will work for battery as usual & secondary will send power the relay & relay will join the circuit (BATT with BCU). What do you say ??
                    but two RR seems like not a good idea.

                    Originally posted by mohitjain88 View Post
                    thinking of getting hid installed in my company fitted headlight projector.

                    hid as aux light is better option then hid as main low beam light ???
                    HID as a aux light that too on reflector, Bro thick about the on coming peoples.
                    Even in AUDI, BMW inside city high-beam is allowable

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                    • Originally posted by rajaselvam_1987 View Post
                      but two RR seems like not a good idea.
                      yes he should not connect the second rr to the battery it will only be used as relay trigger
                      but the problem here comes is the relay won't work i think capicitator might solve the problem
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                      • Originally posted by rprathin View Post
                        yes he should not connect the second rr to the battery it will only be used as relay trigger
                        but the problem here comes is the relay won't work i think capicitator might solve the problem
                        You are right bro.. 2nd RR is only for triggering Relay. I was also thinking of capacitor which needs to be connected to charging output of 2nd RR. But I have to search for simple RR & not the smarter one like APE RR. Coz APE type of smart RR wont give any proper voltage without detecting Battery. I need a RR which should provide 12 - 13.8 v without battery. Pls suggest any RR which you know.
                        ... Abhijit
                        Pulsar UG3 | 2008 | Full DC |
                        Drive Safe !!!

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                        • Originally posted by abhijit_joy View Post
                          You are right bro.. 2nd RR is only for triggering Relay. I was also thinking of capacitor which needs to be connected to charging output of 2nd RR. But I have to search for simple RR & not the smarter one like APE RR. Coz APE type of smart RR wont give any proper voltage without detecting Battery. I need a RR which should provide 12 - 13.8 v without battery. Pls suggest any RR which you know.
                          pulsar ug4 rr is one of them which would provide 13.5-14 volts without battery.
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                          • Originally Posted by Fazer89
                            Planning to Install Philips extreme vision on my Fazer 2012 & Amaron 9Amp Battery...!!

                            Any suggestions...? Current set up 35/35 too dim..!!! (any wiring needs to be changed ?)

                            Regards,
                            Rohan.


                            [QUOTE=rajaselvam_1987;928372]Surely you can use. Even you can use your stock battery also but changing battery to higher capacity is a safer side


                            Hi All / Rajaselvam,

                            Can some 1 confirm which 1 would be perfect for Fazer 153 2012 model. (& can both the sides be fiitted with these both ?)

                            X-tremeVision
                            Product ListingsDescrption
                            12258VXSMH1 12258 XV 12V 55W
                            12258VXB1H1 12258 XV 12V 55W
                            12258VXS2H1 12258 XV 12V 55W
                            12342VXSMH4 12342 XV 12V 60/55W P43t-38
                            12342VXS2H4 12342 XV 12V 60/55W P43t-38
                            12342VXB1H4 12342 XV 12V 60/55W P43t-38
                            12972VXSMH7 12972 XV 12V 55W PX26d
                            12972VXS2H7 12972 XV 12V 55W PX26d
                            12972VXB1H7 12972 XV 12V 55W PX26d


                            PS: Dont have any technical knowledge...kindly guide...



                            Last edited by Fazer89; 03-21-2013, 01:10 PM.
                            DUKE390 | MotoGP | 46 | KTM

                            Rides - Lost count
                            Kms Covered so far 73,000 & Sold ( Yamaha Fazer153)
                            Fuel Spent worth NoIdea/- :P - 1 Broken Collar Bone - Time spent - Priceless - Friends made - Forever


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                            • [QUOTE=Fazer89;928507] Originally Posted by Fazer89
                              Planning to Install Philips extreme vision on my Fazer 2012 & Amaron 9Amp Battery...!!

                              Any suggestions...? Current set up 35/35 too dim..!!! (any wiring needs to be changed ?)

                              Regards,
                              Rohan.


                              Originally posted by rajaselvam_1987 View Post
                              Surely you can use. Even you can use your stock battery also but changing battery to higher capacity is a safer side


                              Hi All / Rajaselvam,

                              Can some 1 confirm which 1 would be perfect for Fazer 153 2012 model. (& can both the sides be fiitted with these both ?)

                              X-tremeVision
                              Product ListingsDescrption
                              12258VXSMH1 12258 XV 12V 55W
                              12258VXB1H1 12258 XV 12V 55W
                              12258VXS2H1 12258 XV 12V 55W
                              12342VXSMH4 12342 XV 12V 60/55W P43t-38
                              12342VXS2H4 12342 XV 12V 60/55W P43t-38
                              12342VXB1H4 12342 XV 12V 60/55W P43t-38
                              12972VXSMH7 12972 XV 12V 55W PX26d
                              12972VXS2H7 12972 XV 12V 55W PX26d
                              12972VXB1H7 12972 XV 12V 55W PX26d


                              PS: Dont have any technical knowledge...kindly guide...



                              fazer headlight will only support H4 bulbs so you can go for
                              12342VXS2H4 12342 XV 12V 60/55W P43t-38
                              or

                              12342VXB1H4 12342 XV 12V 60/55W P43t-38
                              both are good ,but buy only original !
                              also do add a Dual relay for headlight to be on safer side

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                              • Answering your query specifically to the highlighted part below:

                                Originally posted by Fazer89 View Post
                                Originally Posted by Fazer89
                                Can some 1 confirm which 1 would be perfect for Fazer 153 2012 model. (& can both the sides be fiitted with these both ?)
                                You may know that even the stock fazer is not made to run both the left and right sided headlamps at the same time(except in pass/flashing signal)

                                The reason: Its 12V 5Ah stock battery is weak to support 35+35 load of headlights. Even if you get the wiring hacked by a local mechanic to use the low/high beams on both sides simultaneously, you will realize that the horn becomes weaker.

                                I have made mechanical modifications to the battery box so that the 12V 9Ah battery which is physically larger can be accommodated. I am not using any additional chargers, etc.

                                You can put a 55W ES1 or H4 bulb (Example: Osram 64193 55/60w) into both the left and right sided sockets but use only one side bulb at a time. That is, for example, low beam from right-side bulb and high beam from left side bulb. Else, to the save the money on one bulb, you can completed disconnect the bulb on one side and use low and high beam on the other side.

                                I am presently using a 55/60w (Osram ES1 64193) bulb on the right side for low beam(55w) and a 35W HID projector setup on the right side for high beam.

                                I have tried putting in 55/60w bulbs in left and right side and using them simultaneously(both bulbs working simultaneously on low or high beam) but it does not work. The bulbs do not glow to their fullest and as soon as RPM comes down, they dim out. You may also know that the Fazer does not start if its battery is drained.
                                Last edited by rx_rider; 03-21-2013, 03:07 PM.

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