Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[I_Live2Ride]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Lightening experts,

I use Osram Nightbreaker Plus ( 55/60 H4) on my P180 UG3 which is AC_DC setup.. The bulb is very good and throws proper light as I wanted. But, the headlamp has reflectors and I feel that the bulb's illumination is not being utilized fully and hence, I want to install a projector in my bike. So, the combination would be Projectors with Osram NB.. Is this possible? If yes, where can this be done in Mumbai/ Thane? Has anybody done this? Can some one direct me to the relevant post? The pics would be helpful..

[black asp]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Lightening experts,

I use Osram Nightbreaker Plus ( 55/60 H4) on my P180 UG3 which is AC_DC setup.. The bulb is very good and throws proper light as I wanted. But, the headlamp has reflectors and I feel that the bulb's illumination is not being utilized fully and hence, I want to install a projector in my bike. So, the combination would be Projectors with Osram NB.. Is this possible? If yes, where can this be done in Mumbai/ Thane? Has anybody done this? Can some one direct me to the relevant post? The pics would be helpful..

If u can source 220 projectors and somehow manage to fit ur osram h4 bulb in its h7 socket (by cutting the steel edge of the h4 bulb then its a perfct combination a frnd of mine has done it and its pretty good or else if u can purchase h4 based projectors (mostly chaaiinnaa maal) then it will fit but there is no guarantee on the beam throw quality

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[Saf_123]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hi guys!! I own a 7month old Discover 125ST. I was thinking about upgrading my stock 35/35 watt bulb to 55/60 watt halogens. The bike manual says that the bike is running a DC setup. I checked to see if my HL is working with the engine turned off. I found that the HL is not switching on, however, the indicators and the horn are working fine. Is there an issue with the stock battery (12V_5mA) which is causing the the HL to remain switched off?
Also, any recommendations for good 55/60W halogens? So far, it seems that ones from Bosch are the best bet, but I am open to other recommendations. My primary concern is good visibility while riding on Highways (Both dry and Wet conditions).

Thanks!!

[snehithpereira]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hi guys!! I own a 7month old Discover 125ST. I was thinking about upgrading my stock 35/35 watt bulb to 55/60 watt halogens. The bike manual says that the bike is running a DC setup. I checked to see if my HL is working with the engine turned off. I found that the HL is not switching on, however, the indicators and the horn are working fine. Is there an issue with the stock battery (12V_5mA) which is causing the the HL to remain switched off?
Also, any recommendations for good 55/60W halogens? So far, it seems that ones from Bosch are the best bet, but I am open to other recommendations. My primary concern is good visibility while riding on Highways (Both dry and Wet conditions).

Thanks!!

Instead of going for halogens, I would recommend you try philps extreme vision or osram night breakers, both are tried and tested and are equally good.

The only reason I won't suggest halogens is because I am not sure of the effect of their resultant heat on the stock reflector. If someone got some idea on this, they could draw a better picture.

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[Akki4134]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Dont fiddle around with the bike till it is under warranty. Regarding the HL, discovers hl never runs on battery, using a 55/60 watt bulb is not advisable as it will avoid your warranty and the reflector will become dull in some time. Ull have to upgrade the charging coil for using the 55/60 watt bulbs. I would suggest go for osram halogen bulbs with 35/35 wattage as they would produce more light than the stock bulb which the company gives.
Rest is all upto you if you want to fiddle around with the wiring.

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[Akki4134]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

First of all learn what the K thing in HID means. Kelvin!!
8000k!!?? Ur blinding people who come from the opposite direction, I dont know why people dont understand that HID are only meant for rally's they are not supposed to be used in city or on highways. I know you would reply back that Audi's Merc and BMw's have HID as OEM.. Yes they do have,but a 4300k 55 watt HID with superior quality projector to keep the light in proper focus so that no one has a problem when someone comes from the opposite direction. HID are banned by supreme court, any light with more than 4300k is offencive.



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[Akki4134]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

First of all learn what the K thing in HID means. Kelvin!!
8000k!!?? Ur blinding people who come from the opposite direction, I dont know why people dont understand that HID are only meant for rally's they are not supposed to be used in city or on highways. I know you would reply back that Audi's Merc and BMw's have HID as OEM.. Yes they do have,but a 4300k 55 watt HID with superior quality projector to keep the light in proper focus so that no one has a problem when someone comes from the opposite direction. HID are banned by supreme court, any light with more than 4300k is offencive.



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So please stop blinding people with those Chinese HID kits. Use what the company gives u as OEM, u can upgrade to higher wattage halogen bulbs instead, they would give you more benifits on wet roads and fog than those shitty HID's. U get completely blind when u use HID while riding in foggy weather.

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[snehithpereira]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[MENTION=43330]Akki4134[/MENTION] , could you please quote the comments you are replying to

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[Akki4134]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Am really sorry bro bt the new update has some prob with quoting.

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[Cyrus_the_virus]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

First of all learn what the K thing in HID means. Kelvin!!
8000k!!?? Ur blinding people who come from the opposite direction, I dont know why people dont understand that HID are only meant for rally's they are not supposed to be used in city or on highways. I know you would reply back that Audi's Merc and BMw's have HID as OEM.. Yes they do have,but a 4300k 55 watt HID with superior quality projector to keep the light in proper focus so that no one has a problem when someone comes from the opposite direction. HID are banned by supreme court, any light with more than 4300k is offencive.

So please stop blinding people with those Chinese HID kits. Use what the company gives u as OEM, u can upgrade to higher wattage halogen bulbs instead, they would give you more benifits on wet roads and fog than those shitty HID's. U get completely blind when u use HID while riding in foggy weather.

Bro, you got it wrong. Kelvin is not a function of brightness but a function of colour temperature. The higher the Kelvin does NOT mean more brightness. It is the wattage that determines how bright a bulb is. Eg a 100W is more brigher than a 65W. You can get the same 8000K in both 100W and 65W.

See the below picture to understand how Kelvin works. 4300K is natural light. Anything below that is yellowish and anything above that is purplish. 5000K is white light.









Natural light is more visibly reflective and you can see the road better. Anything above 5500K is purely putting your safety at risk as the purple tint is less reflective and hence appears less brighter with low contrast.

Your suggestion of upgrading to higher Wattage halogen instead of HID to avoid blinding others is mistaken and wrong understanding of wattage and Kelvin. A truck light can blind you while a bike light necessarily doesnt although they are pretty much the same Kelvin rating. It is the wattage difference. Upgrading to 65W 3000K halogen will blind others more than a 35W 6000K HID

[Akki4134]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Please read what I have written. Dont just start off with just reading the kelvin thing. I know what exactly Kelvin means, I wanted to tell that guy that ull be blinding people with that 8000k HID, regarding the wattage, a 55/60 watt halogen bulb will give good light and wont harm anyone coming from the opposite direction.
Talking about the truck light, they use 24v 100/130 watt bulbs which are not permitted for public roads, a car with OEM bulbs wont blind anyone as they are 55/60 watt bulbs.
Please reply to the quote once u have rewd it properly. Understand what I was trying to convey to that chap.
Only 4300k HID is used in BMW and other big companies, and 5000k will give u white light which is again not permitted for public roads.
So please go through what ive said in my last comment, what I wanted to convey to that guy.
No offence to u mate.

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[Cyrus_the_virus]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Please read what I have written. Dont just start off with just reading the kelvin thing. I know what exactly Kelvin means, I wanted to tell that guy that ull be blinding people with that 8000k HID, regarding the wattage, a 55/60 watt halogen bulb will give good light and wont harm anyone coming from the opposite direction.

Both assumptions still strong and wrong. You still seems to be having the same misconception and did not understand that Kelvin has nothing to do with blinding.

A 55W halogen bulb will blind someone more than a 35W 8000K HID, try to understand that as explained above.

Upgrading to 65W 3000K halogen will blind others more than a 35W 6000K HID

I rest my case, the above explanation should be enough for any questions or quotes you have further.

[Akki4134]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Both assumptions still strong and wrong. You still seems to be having the same misconception and did not understand that Kelvin has nothing to do with blinding.

A 55W halogen bulb will blind someone more than a 35W 8000K HID, try to understand that as explained above.


I rest my case, the above explanation should be enough for any questions or quotes you have further.

First of all HID has no precised throw, it spreads alot, creating trouble to both the rider and the oncoming traffic, riding with anything above 6000k on the highway will give u more fatigue than stock bulb.
Whenever you ride in the city or on the highway, any sort of HID tend to catch more attention than any stock light as it spreads alot and the color temperature tends to pinch everyone's eye.
Why is it that companies dont put 6000k 55/60watt bulbs in our cars and bike?? There are lot many options in the market like the Philips Extreme vison and osram cool blue. All OEM lights are made as per the govt laws which clearly says that we can only use 4300k lights within city and on the highway, if any of your friends has a BMW, just open its bonnet check the ballast of the HID, it clearly says 4300k and if you check the owners manual its written that you shouldn't try to put different bulbs with this ballast as ot woud avoid warranty and is against the law to use higher intensity bulbs, not the bulbs which we have the HID bulbs I am talking about.
On a very friendly note: Any type of HID is not supposed to be used on public roads as they are only used for Rally's and other motor sport.


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[nadz11.ns]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hey guys.. I want to install auxiliary lights on my ride (fz).. So needed help as to which type should i go for..
i don't have any idea of what wattage they should be.. Or actually what they are.. Just saw them of some pics and they seem to give a good spread..
or should i just go for simple heavier bulb ?
i would be doing night riding soon due to evening classes, so need help with these..
the pic is for reference as to what i am saying..

[snehithpereira]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[MENTION=60608]nadz11.ns[/MENTION] , fellow xBhpian [MENTION=61921]SuvraGanguly[/MENTION] is using the same lights, you could get in touch with him for his feedback

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