Might be for you but this method works like a charm.....

Obviously, it will work fine because new oil every time.

99% users including me never did so and the other way works like charm to, have you tried that?

You are simply wasting resources. At 500 km oil is too fresh to be wasted and filter got a life of 10k km, thrown away at 1/20th of its life. You can change at 500 and 1k, that sounds sane, but 500x5 is absolutely absurd.

These kinda posts and then fighting with the "post"er is keeping the experienced guys off of this thread and most threads.

I haven't wasted any oil. All my slightly used oil is poured into my friend's old bike. So just chill out. I don't waste anything in my life even food.

My engine oil changing method is not personal, it was adapted from experts here. I recommend changing engine oil @ 1500 rather than 2000km and I also do change engine oil on my cars @ 5000kms or max 6 months. i just do all this by intuition when the vehicle shows a different behaviour then I change the engine oil. That's my method. Sorry if there was any offence.

Can't help about matured guys, they need to be more mature than getting involving in tit-for-tat fights.

I too change at 2-2.5k with semisynth and 5k for car. But this 500-500-500-500-500 interval in undigestable.

Someone bought bike 2 days back is advising the guy bought yesterday and he will then do the same with the guy who is gonna buy tomorrow.

Early changes are to remove the metal debris from run-in and now you purposefully ruining someone else's engine?

I sincerely apologise in public to you Jonahmano for this but i will be rude:

that was plainly stupid!! You gave your newly run-in engine oil to someone else to run in their bike's engine? You are defying logic in all regards!! I am sorry to say this but you have not done even basic research about run in, maintenance and straight away did something which could damage someone else's engine severely.

Post run in, the reason any manufacture asks you to come for the first service in 1000 kms is to get rid of the engine oil which has a lot of metal parts and filings which have come off after the engine has slowly mated to correct tolerances during the the prescribed run-in period. One can easily see the metal collection in the engine oil or also locally know as 'imri' in oil just by looking at the spent engine oil in the collection bowl, the bottle where one can see a lot of shiny metal particulates.

You have potentially endangered your friend's ride by putting in the freshly chipped out metal parts from your engine into his.. please do think logically what it can do to his ride! In Noob context: its like trying to consume indian lentil soup/dal loaded with stones.. you will end up having a chipped tooth or a sore mouth!!

Changing engine oil say at 500 kms first and then 500 kms later is not a bad practice but at the same time not mandatory as i have mentioned earlier. It does let the engine get rid off a lot of metal particles in the first round of engine oil change but at the same time the oil filter can filter out atleast 70-80% of them easily. (I believe there has already been a healthy discussion about this in older posts but senior riders please do correct me if i am wrong on this!) Personally i didn't follow the earlier rule and went ahead with the practice prescribed in the manual and my ride is running just fine.

Again apologies for being rude but please do your research first before posting something which is not right and will lead to confusions.

Cheers,

My replies in bold.

very well written,and to the point..

I have changed engine oil at 50km, 100km and 250km on my car engines in the past, With filter changes each time.
Reason being was I was running a turbo and my engine had been built to very tight tolerances, and I didn't want to run the risk of galling up a bearing, crank pin or worse partly blocking a oil journal or oil cooler esp on a turbo!!

In the end we all have our reasons why. We all have our own ways of doing things. As long as the oil is properly disposed of and the rider is happy its all good

My New FZ16

Hello XbHp'ians,
I am happy to share that i got a new FZ16, which is my second bike(First being an RX100), from the day ONE(07-Sep-2012) it was AMAZING and i like everything about the bike:
1. The Engine is butter smooth(Min. Rev at 1100RPM)
2. Pick up is awsome(It tend to cross 45kmph with 3rd gear, 55 for 4th and 65 for 5th : All these things happens within 5000RPM)
3. Though they insist on keeping the RPM below 5000k during the Break in Period, which i find very difficult, i tend to cross 75kmph sometimes and kissed 80kmph once.
4. I do feel that during gear shifts, it needs to de-press the clutch completely, else its not shifting at all which consumes few milliseconds during some crucial times in traffic.
5. We have done a pretty 350+ km so far and i feel that the YAMAHA people should think about employing a rear disc(atleast as an option).
Because in front we have the most efficient braking and we have a normal braking at rear which i personally feel that they are not at sync(Though rear drum will be better during rainy seasons).


So far these are my experiences with my brand new YAMAHA FZ16.
I am glad to see some GREAT people looking into the threads and replying for all the queries thats being posted by newbies like me.

@PSR the Great: Hello PSR, Good to see that you are sharing your experiences and thoughts with the fellow xbhp'ians.
Hope i will get some advice/suggestions fro my FZ from you. I wish to have a ride to your place with my FZ sometime later, so that you can ride and comment

Hi Mr.SathyaPriyan was wondering what had happened ,since I didn't see your posts for a long time.Good to know you had picked up a FZ and hearty Congrats on the New Acquisition.....There are knowledgeable OWNERS like Lucky Luke, Mad MiK Shv18,...to mention a few, who have much greater knowledge than me to help you....
Still if you give a chance I can always find ways to turn your bike to scrap...
Good Luck and Ride safe..

Sorry there was no 500 x5 times oil change. Read it carefully again.

250,550, 1000, 2000, 3500 the interval increases at each change and not 500 500

Get the facts right before poundering false statements against me.

Early metal debris was dumped in workshop and not my friends bike.

When you said I'm wasting resources and I explained to you how I'm not wasting. Early debris oil if poured in someone's engine will have greater loss for the country for wasting the whole engine which is more costly than the engine oil. Please don't counter attack me with half facts

Hey man Deville is wrong.

I never said that I have changed oil 500x5 times. This statement is completely misleading and I have never given the used new engine to my friend and ruin his bike.

Let me place the facts

If you read carefully my posts from Day 1 then you will know the truth. I got the information of changing the oil early by the experts here and not my own imagination. Anyways this is the truth

1st Engine oil change @ Local Workshop @ 350 km - Filter was not changed and there was big debate on that. Didn't take the oil and gave it to my friend. I don't know what that workshop wala did.

2nd Engine oil change @ Yamaha Service Center @ 550km - It was compulsory change because it was my first service and they never asked me so I changed oil and filter. Again those guys never filled the used oil and gave me so that I can give it to my friend.

3rd Engine oil change @ home DIY - @ 1100 km and this time I gave it to my friend's starving bike where he rides his bike with no correct measurement.

4th Engine oil change @ home DIY - @ 2300 km and this time I again gave it to my friend.

Now please tell me how I ruined someone else's bike and wasted the resources of my country.

@ Deville, Get the facts right before posting wrong facts and creating hater against me.

No offence to you still you can cross check by writing personal message to me and cross check the facts.

@ Shiv, No offence to you brother. You are much senior to me and I like chastening from people like you. I'm not at all hurt by your statement.

And I'm really sorry, I apologize my mistakes.


Thanks

It's not about who is right and who is wrong. When a newbie asks for some doubt tell him the proper way than the way you did. Understand the point. I have no intention to create hate against someone. Whenever someone tries to correct you, you simply try to argue it out. Just think, if there are many people trying to correct, then who is right.

Reusing once drained oil is not recommended no matter how fresh it is. 350-500-1100-2300, 3rd and 4th too close. 500x5 is just for example. Prove me wrong.

If anyone is giving used oil to someone, the guy losing is the one accepting.. and putting in his engine!! lol Used oil is used oil and should not be used even for chain lubrication!

My friend uses partly used oil for topping up only. This guy is so lazy that he never drains till 3000 km and his old fiero drinks most of the engine oil after 1000km. I think it's better to pour atleast used oil than running with no oil. I told him all the ill effects but this guy won't listen, he says he doesn't have time.

Apologies to everyone! Hereafter I think I don't have to rely of milk, I need to change to the level of having solid food.

I'll take a break and listen to others.