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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
    Bro, If I were in your place, I wouldn't expect much. The 300R has been launched internationally and is a misnoner, since the '300' is actually 275cc, which is just a larger bore on the current 250R with all other mechanical components remaining the same. It won't be a big jump like the N250-N300. The larger engine would give a 4BHpSo engine-wise, there is nothing to be disappointed about, the CBR never feels underpowered (unless you are pitting it against the KTM 390s). But if you still need that extra bump, you could always get your engine re-bored. Heavens forbid, if Honda chucks the 275R (ok, the 300R) and relaunches the 250R, you'd hardly expect any performance bump over the 26bhp model. The 300R produces 30BHP from a 276cc engine, so how much of a bump can we expect if Honda sticks 250cc? Negligible or nil, I'd say.

    That leaves only the looks to consider (Dual headlamps). Again, since the frame is unchanged, I am very sure the new fairings will be compatible with the existing CBR, though this is yet to be confirmed. I would suggest looking up some international forums where the 300R has been launched, to confirm if the new headlamp assembly will be compatible. On the minus side, the new chrome plated exhaust cans look yuck!!!

    Wow ! quite a thought provoking post ( something that I need much, with the confusion I have )

    Yes, the 249 cc engine, if updated will produce 29 PS, against the 27 PS it now puts out. And yes again, the 286cc ( fake 300 :P ) will have an output of 31 PS. I am not a top speed person anymore ( maturity takes its toll ! ) and I am looking at smooth cruising speeds of 80-120 ( max ) where I thought the additional power will make it seem less stressful, and hence began the wait.

    And I read up somewhere that Honda has tweaked the chassis a bit to reduce the seat height by an inch and has even made the frame a little bit narrow, and fitting the new fairing would most probably not be an easy task ( but yes, still possible )

    I also like the current exhaust can better compared to the chrome ones on the updated bike that looks a segment or 2 cheaper!

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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by hgps View Post
      No idea what caused this. Could be due to normal wear and tear. My front brake lever's Brake switch developed similar issues after 3 years. Had to do some jugad to make it work, Didn't replaced it.
      Woah mate..!! You do like to live dangerously.

      Originally posted by Auto View Post
      Wow ! quite a thought provoking post ( something that I need much, with the confusion I have )

      Yes, the 249 cc engine, if updated will produce 29 PS, against the 27 PS it now puts out. And yes again, the 286cc ( fake 300 :P ) will have an output of 31 PS. I am not a top speed person anymore ( maturity takes its toll ! ) and I am looking at smooth cruising speeds of 80-120 ( max ) where I thought the additional power will make it seem less stressful, and hence began the wait.

      And I read up somewhere that Honda has tweaked the chassis a bit to reduce the seat height by an inch and has even made the frame a little bit narrow, and fitting the new fairing would most probably not be an easy task ( but yes, still possible )

      I also like the current exhaust can better compared to the chrome ones on the updated bike that looks a segment or 2 cheaper!
      All I can say is all the best, these guys are not giving any clue for us regarding the new launch. So keep tight , and wait it out, getting a new bike and a month or two later refreshed version coming out is always a heart sinking thing to watch.

      Cheers
      Ride Safe
      Krishna
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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by shv18 View Post
        Isn't the engine 286 CC?? or is it 275 CC for CBR 300R??

        Cheers,
        I stand corrected. It's 286 and not 275.

        Originally posted by Auto View Post
        Yes, the 249 cc engine, if updated will produce 29 PS, against the 27 PS it now puts out. And yes again, the 286cc ( fake 300 :P ) will have an output of 31 PS.
        And I read up somewhere that Honda has tweaked the chassis a bit to reduce the seat height by an inch and has even made the frame a little bit narrow, and fitting the new fairing would most probably not be an easy task ( but yes, still possible )
        The current (2013) model outputs 26.1 bhp. I don't think it will be possible to extract any more power from the 250cc mill, ECU was already remapped to boost the output from 25 to 26 BHP. If anything, the lighter body may assist in better dynamics. But 29bhp out of a 250cc mill? Sounds too far-fetched, and even if Honda hoes boost the power, it will need very high compression levels and very high RPMs to achieve the same, making the 2BHP practically useless, if one's not into track riding.


        Frame changed? I don't think so. Quoting below from MCN and Cycle News respectively:

        The riding position has been subtly altered – while seat height remains 785mm, ground reach has been improved with a narrower, re-shaped seat. For a sleeker look both mirrors sit on shorter arms.
        But the CBR300R’s new curves weren’t all about looks, the new bodywork and contours, combined with a revised seat, result in a slimmer profile.


        So yes, the seat is new, but the frame is very much the same

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
          ....The current (2013) model outputs 26.1 bhp. I don't think it will be possible to extract any more power from the 250cc mill, ECU was already remapped to boost the output from 25 to 26 BHP. If anything, the lighter body may assist in better dynamics. But 29bhp out of a 250cc mill? Sounds too far-fetched, and even if Honda hoes boost the power, it will need very high compression levels and very high RPMs to achieve the same, making the 2BHP practically useless, if one's not into track riding.


          ....

          The revised CBR250R (sold in Indonesia) already puts out 29PS power..

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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Guys, Time for rear tire change-
            Whats your take?
            MRF- 3500/-
            Michelin -3400 /-
            Continental- 2800/-

            MRF vs Michelin????
            HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by sambit View Post
              Guys, Time for rear tire change-
              Whats your take?
              MRF- 3500/-
              Michelin -3400 /-
              Continental- 2800/-

              MRF vs Michelin????
              Skip contigo.

              If investing for michelin go for the pilot street radial(5.8k) and not the pilot sporty(the 3400 one)

              there is a new series of mrf it seems with stock cbr size which has tread patterns similar to the r15 size.
              I think some review of that is there in one site, but i haven't read it , so not sure about how good it is.

              Cheers
              Ride Safe
              Krishna
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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                Skip contigo.

                If investing for michelin go for the pilot street radial(5.8k) and not the pilot sporty(the 3400 one)

                there is a new series of mrf it seems with stock cbr size which has tread patterns similar to the r15 size.
                I think some review of that is there in one site, but i haven't read it , so not sure about how good it is.

                Cheers
                Ride Safe
                Krishna
                Thanks.
                Actually thats my budget for now. 3.5-4 K. Need a tire for next 10K kms or so, after which I will sell my bike at end of this year.
                MRF now has 140/70 spec tire with a pattern similar to Ceat's.
                Also there is IRC at 4100/-(They provide leech like grip, but they loose the grip significantly post 6-7K kms and can beat TVS's tires in Skidability . Had used them on RTR)
                If you say the Pilot sporty is compromised, MRF seems to be the best option for now.
                HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by sambit View Post
                  Thanks.
                  Actually thats my budget for now. 3.5-4 K. Need a tire for next 10K kms or so, after which I will sell my bike at end of this year.
                  MRF now has 140/70 spec tire with a pattern similar to Ceat's.
                  Also there is IRC at 4100/-(They provide leech like grip, but they loose the grip significantly post 6-7K kms and can beat TVS's tires in Skidability . Had used them on RTR)
                  If you say the Pilot sporty is compromised, MRF seems to be the best option for now.

                  I am not sure how good the pilot sporty model are , so i have no comments on that. But the mrf is bound to be good for dry weather anyway, no wet weather report has been found so far.
                  If you are ok with that then you can get the mrf itself, makes more sense.

                  Cheers
                  Ride Safe
                  Krishna
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                  ulsar 220F
                  |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    S o Guys, the weirdest thing happened to me today.
                    Just like everyday was doing the first start / warm up of the bike. I had parked the bike in gear and usually just a flick of the pedal and it falls into neutral and i fire her up, but today it just din't tried many times but the (N) light wasn't going green, moved the bike and checked and still no go, i thought it was not able to find neutral, but then it slotted to neutral but still no green light, i tried the horn, blinkers and lights all worked fine, so battery was charged, but starter wouldn't work, if i pull in the clutch it worked.
                    This went on for about 10 min , the light just wouldn't come on , but it starts with clutch pulled and idles like usual , but the display shows no green light.
                    Tried switching the bike off and on again, in several attempts once the light blinked and went off again.
                    Finally i decided to take the risk and ride it out anyway, then suddenly after the warm up was done , i did one final restart and now it was back to normal.
                    I thought about it throughout my commute, of what could possibly have gone wrong. Came up with no idea. Anybody faced this same problem here ?

                    Cheers
                    Ride Safe
                    Krishna
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                    ulsar 220F
                    |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Ok, looks like we finally have an answer to the question - "When is the CBR300R coming?"

                      The answer is - "Never"

                      Looks like Honda India has taken the decision to go ahead and launch the updated 250R instead. This will have the new styling and the re-tuned engine which will now offer 2 additional PS ( 29 in total )

                      Here's the link - Honda India To Launch New CBR250R Instead Of CBR300R | MotorBeam – Indian Car Bike News & Reviews

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Originally posted by Auto View Post
                        Ok, looks like we finally have an answer to the question - "When is the CBR300R coming?"

                        The answer is - "Never"

                        Looks like Honda India has taken the decision to go ahead and launch the updated 250R instead. This will have the new styling and the re-tuned engine which will now offer 2 additional PS ( 29 in total )

                        Here's the link -
                        So one my predictions comes true...

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                          S o Guys, the weirdest thing happened to me today.
                          Just like everyday was doing the first start / warm up of the bike. I had parked the bike in gear and usually just a flick of the pedal and it falls into neutral and i fire her up, but today it just din't tried many times but the (N) light wasn't going green, moved the bike and checked and still no go, i thought it was not able to find neutral, but then it slotted to neutral but still no green light, i tried the horn, blinkers and lights all worked fine, so battery was charged, but starter wouldn't work, if i pull in the clutch it worked.
                          This went on for about 10 min , the light just wouldn't come on , but it starts with clutch pulled and idles like usual , but the display shows no green light.
                          Tried switching the bike off and on again, in several attempts once the light blinked and went off again.
                          Finally i decided to take the risk and ride it out anyway, then suddenly after the warm up was done , i did one final restart and now it was back to normal.
                          I thought about it throughout my commute, of what could possibly have gone wrong. Came up with no idea. Anybody faced this same problem here ?


                          Cheers
                          Ride Safe
                          Krishna

                          You mean the bike goes into neutral (free rolling) but green light doesn't come on and starter doesn't work? And once the bike is started using the clutch, bike idles normally in neutral? Nothing serious. There is a micro switch near the gearbox which may have developed loose wiring. Check for loose wiring, or worst case, you may need to replace the switch. Refer to the pic below.
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                          Last edited by bbsrailfan; 02-20-2015, 02:56 PM.

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                            Hey, thanks a ton mate, will get it checked if it is happening again.,

                            Maybe dust problem also, parking area has been too dusty for some time now. Need to do a proper wash first.

                            Cheers
                            Ride Safe
                            Krishna
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                            ulsar 220F
                            |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Planning to replace the tyres on the CBR. Which is the best suited within a budget of 6000 bucks. Need to replace both front and rear. Any suggestions?

                              Conti Go should be available within 5.5K, but is it good enough one or should I consider the MRF ones. I am not keen on spending higher amount as the bike will be sold in a couple of months.
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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by n.krishna.p View Post
                                Planning to replace the tyres on the CBR. Which is the best suited within a budget of 6000 bucks. Need to replace both front and rear. Any suggestions?

                                Conti Go should be available within 5.5K, but is it good enough one or should I consider the MRF ones. I am not keen on spending higher amount as the bike will be sold in a couple of months.
                                MRF it is then, just go the previous page for more details, the very same question has been asked.


                                Cheers
                                Ride Safe
                                Krishna
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                                ulsar 220F
                                |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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