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yep, there might be a difference of +/- 5 kms but CBR250 does good high end north to 155kmphOriginally posted by Divya Sharan View Post"Riding By Passion, Wandering By Choice !!" - IceAgeOnWheels
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Re: Honda CBR 250R
the real true top speed of CBR is 148 kmph or 93Mph as tested with multiple GPS by big magazines.Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View PostThe true top speed could be anywhere between 130-147 km/hr.
I have seen lot of YouTube videos. People pulling more than 160km/hr on the cbr 250R. But nobody knows how much of that is true.
It develops power in low and midrange and the top end is next to nill, hence post 8K rpm it starts to run out of juice.
So 140km/hr is a decent speed considering indian roads.
I used my phone as a gps and the indication was 139 when I was doing around147ish speedo indicated, could have achieved more if there was some downhill.
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and yes it does easy 140 after which it climbs slow. which can also take a hit if there is too much of cross winds.
doing 160+ on stock is not possible. unless.. will mention below.
honda's gearing is spot on mate. given duke 200 makes same power and is also light weight it can still do a real 136kmph. does that mean its worse than NS ?Originally posted by emm View PostDon't get me wrong for the "seems less for a 250cc mill. I am planning to get cbr250 in couple of months, mainly for touring purpose. Eagerly waiting for the revfest. So was going through their website and was thinking about its top speed given as 135kmph. Comparatively, rs200 being lesser in Cc, power, and torque(not to mention the fairing which doesn't seem as aerodynamic as cbr250) reaches 140kmph top speed( that's what bajaj and all reviewers claim).
I know bajaj is trying to milk the Max out of the 200cc and bajaj nvh levels are lesser than bajaj. I was just curious to know how the gearing in Honda have been designed.
No hard feelings on any brand am just trying gather info a about couple of bikes before I make a decision.
no its not. its one good machine. coming back to honda and compare . its more about the refinement and how long you will be able to hold it.
even a 150cc bike can do 110 kmph but can you keep running it all day ? no. but you can do that with cbr. it will do 120kmph all day without making a fuss.
with lesser torque you will have to keep revving it while the honda will happily purr around in city at lower rpm's due to ample mid range torque.
r3 will be cool 3.5L+ on road. 40+bhp and twin wont be anything less than 3.Originally posted by Dandamudi Mohan Krishna View PostHey bro, it's fine I understand I thought you said that in general like "why 250 CC's and not much faster than 150/180 CC?".
Anyways its cool but, I would recommend wait till Yamaha R3 comes out and not sure if new CBR will come or not...
it does 140 easy but doing 160 on speedo and doing 160 real speed's are way apart. asian or specifically Indian cbr's have 5-7% over optimistic speedo error.Originally posted by NightFurry View PostCBR250 easilt does 140kmph and goes upto 160KMph as stock and if any mods is done then 170+kmph is also seen.
CBR250 is one of the best touring machine, and much better than NS or RS200.
also to hit 160 on speedo you would need to be 70kg or less with a near perfect machine and no cross wind.
coming to 170+ speeds on youtube. plonk in a 13T and you will be able to hit redline even in 6th gear. the real speed will still be around 140-150 however the speedo will still show 170+. why ??? coz the speedo takes the rotation from the crank case and irrelevant to what sprocket or what tyre you are using outside it.Last edited by theironhorse99; 07-29-2015, 12:08 PM."A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."
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Re: Honda CBR 250R
To whomsoever it may concern - Ppl discussing about top speed, could you pls let us know why you're interested? What's is that you're going to do if its 140 Kmph & what's the difference if you're going to do if its 160 Kmph?
Yes, CPR (gasps for breath) after 137 Kmph (Pls refer to my FAQ that was published even before HMSI could publish the top speed of this bike on their website) & has lesser top speed than other 250cc & if top speed is the only concern, then, start looking for other 250cc motorcycle!!

If your priority is low on maintenance, best suspensions, ABS, ideal touring motorcycle, best value for money, best fuel efficiency, better than a commuter, wide spread ASC, then there's no looking anything beyond CPR 250R!!Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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Re: Honda CBR 250R
Its a joke from an old Tamil movie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtnSkahpsGoOriginally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View PostSaar, did not understand the image
I really don't understand why most Indians judge a motorcycle based on top speed when they're more concerned on the bike's budget & FE; many a times, I've been saying, buying is one time affair, but maintenance is for lifetime. Its really exciting after few days of getting married, but, living with her for a lifetime takes lots of courage, forgiving & understanding (on a lighter side - courage to accept all the beatings; forgiving your Wife even when you're right; understanding that Wife is always right)
What I mean is, top speed is just like a nightly affair & a married life is not only about top speed, it has several other thingsLast edited by aargee; 07-29-2015, 04:42 PM.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day
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Re: Honda CBR 250R
Thanks for the valuable insight. This is OT but I couldn't stop myself from asking it.Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
... plonk in a 13T and you will be able to hit redline even in 6th gear. the real speed will still be around 140-150 however the speedo will still show 170+. why ??? coz the speedo takes the rotation from the crank case and irrelevant to what sprocket or what tyre you are using outside it.
As the speedo takes the rotation from crank case, will it show less kmph if I use a smaller rear sprocket with stock tyre size?____________________________
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Thats simply awesome aargee. a respectable comment from life and experience. hats offOriginally posted by aargee View Postbuying is one time affair, but maintenance is for lifetime. Its really exciting after few days of getting married, but, living with her for a lifetime takes lots of courage, forgiving & understanding (on a lighter side - courage to accept all the beatings; forgiving your Wife even when you're right; understanding that Wife is always right)
What I mean is, top speed is just like a nightly affair & a married life is not only about top speed, it has several other things
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Originally posted by aargee View Postbuying is one time affair, but maintenance is for lifetime. Its really exciting after few days of getting married, but, living with her for a lifetime takes lots of courage, forgiving & understanding (on a lighter side - courage to accept all the beatings; forgiving your Wife even when you're right; understanding that Wife is always right)
What I mean is, top speed is just like a nightly affair & a married life is not only about top speed, it has several other things
I must frame this quote and fix it in middle of my bedroom wall.
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Re: Honda CBR 250R
Aye aye captain! Absolutely right!Originally posted by aargee View PostWhat I mean is, top speed is just like a nightly affair & a married life is not only about top speed, it has several other things
On a lighter note, I can take the top speed = 1 night affair even further.
Too many/daily 1 night affairs = AIDS = Death (STD).
Always testing top speed = Moron = Death (road accident).Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
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Re: Honda CBR 250R
Hi Guys, My bike engine head replaced now due to valve guide issue. Along with that, piston and rings also got changed and all done under warranty. Now I have to do run-in again. But now bike is running on FS oil but I would like to use mineral oil for better running in. Bike clocked 31k KMS now. Please suggest me, at this time should I use mineral oil or FS oil itself.2012 HONDA CBR 250 R C-ABS
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Re: Honda CBR 250R
HMSI Throttle FS 10W30Originally posted by satheez_7 View PostPlease suggest me, at this time should I use mineral oil or FS oil itself.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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Re: Honda CBR 250R
Top speed, acceleration timings concerns are legitimate, IMO. The cbr250r is marketed as a sports tourer, and therefore performance is one of the prime concerns. Nobody would buy the cbr250r if the top speed was 100, even if the company offers lifetime free service. The sales numbers of the r15 vs the cbr250r reinforce the fact. If performance per paise was not a prime concern, we would all be riding scooters.
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Thank you bro!! Really helpful about the gearing part and torque. I was well aware about the point of hitting the top speed and maintaining it. I am no top speed freak, but was curious to know why honda has put 135KMPH as top speed on its website. also, for cbr150 its given as 109, which according to me is bit less considering its mechanicals. The mistake is on my side, I should have framed my question properly. I was thinking of discussing why on what basis honda was giving its top speed values(and what other companies do). Being an automobile engineer myself and working for a japanese automotive company, i have seen cases where the japs keep their testing methods a bit different and target ranges a bit stingent. So, i was wondering what methods might honda have followed in testing and also in terms of gear design.Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Postthe real true top speed of CBR is 148 kmph or 93Mph as tested with multiple GPS by big magazines.
and yes it does easy 140 after which it climbs slow. which can also take a hit if there is too much of cross winds.
doing 160+ on stock is not possible. unless.. will mention below.
honda's gearing is spot on mate. given duke 200 makes same power and is also light weight it can still do a real 136kmph. does that mean its worse than NS ?
no its not. its one good machine. coming back to honda and compare . its more about the refinement and how long you will be able to hold it.
even a 150cc bike can do 110 kmph but can you keep running it all day ? no. but you can do that with cbr. it will do 120kmph all day without making a fuss.
it does 140 easy but doing 160 on speedo and doing 160 real speed's are way apart. asian or specifically Indian cbr's have 5-7% over optimistic speedo error.
also to hit 160 on speedo you would need to be 70kg or less with a near perfect machine and no cross wind.
coming to 170+ speeds on youtube. plonk in a 13T and you will be able to hit redline even in 6th gear. the real speed will still be around 140-150 however the speedo will still show 170+. why ??? coz the speedo takes the rotation from the crank case and irrelevant to what sprocket or what tyre you are using outside it.
Hi aagree, I apologize for not making myself clear on my previous messagesOriginally posted by aargee View PostTo whomsoever it may concern - Ppl discussing about top speed, could you pls let us know why you're interested? What's is that you're going to do if its 140 Kmph & what's the difference if you're going to do if its 160 Kmph?
Yes, CPR (gasps for breath) after 137 Kmph (Pls refer to my FAQ that was published even before HMSI could publish the top speed of this bike on their website) & has lesser top speed than other 250cc & if top speed is the only concern, then, start looking for other 250cc motorcycle!!
If your priority is low on maintenance, best suspensions, ABS, ideal touring motorcycle, best value for money, best fuel efficiency, better than a commuter, wide spread ASC, then there's no looking anything beyond CPR 250R!!
. I am no top speed freak, or a hater of honda, in fact i am spoilt brat of honda refinement
and beauty of their designs for all rounder machines. I am not one of those morons who rant about that Kachori is better than sushi, because its VFM as it gives more for the price and does well
. I mean no offense to any motorcycle. All do their part well. Thank you for your inputs, i will go through the FAQ prepared by you. I like this bike and i am waiting to save more and stretch my budget to get one myself for touring.
Now, coming to my query, I was curious to know any new info(for me) which can shed some light as to why or on what basis honda has given the top speed value. Since, we generally see top speed and acceleration figures given by companies generally are high which can only be hit under certain conditions. Here, we have honda claiming 135kmph, which doesnt seem very hard to reach(i mean reach, not holding it for long) for this beauty. Definitely i was missing something. Purely from engineering point of view, I was curious to know and understand whats honda doing here. I thought what better place to ask, than the ownership thread. What is the gear ratios for the CBR250.
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Looking for Good Mechanic in Thane or nearby Thane for CBR250R
Hi Everyone,
It has been 4 years with the Honda CBR250R and I recently felt that the Honda Service is not at all good. They just take money for service and I have to wait 10 days and nothing has been done after 10 days. Then in just 1 days, they called me and told that the service is done. But the bike doesn't feel good at all. The service center in picture is "Sai Point Automobiles, Thane".
I also wrote to the manager about this and there is no reply from their side. I decided to not to go to the service center as they are just robbing the money and doing nothing. So I need a suggestion from you guys to find me a good mechanic in Thane, who should be good with CBR Servicing.
Thanks in advance.Jegan Somu aka Motowanderer
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Re: Honda CBR 250R
Originally posted by Only Amit... View PostThanks for the valuable insight. This is OT but I couldn't stop myself from asking it.
As the speedo takes the rotation from crank case, will it show less kmph if I use a smaller rear sprocket with stock tyre size?
well it ain't OT in CBR thread
to your query yes. now if you reduce one teeth at rear thats making it tall geared however the mechanism inside will still take same reading Ir-relevant of mods you are doing outside. hence if you were doing 100kmph at 6200rpm before even if you reduce/increase 1-2-3 teeth at front or rear. no matter what it will still show the same speed. so yes it will show less speed in simpler terms.
now another concept comes here which i mentioned before. CBR speedo's are (supposedly known to be) 5-7% over optimistic. which means while the meter shows 100 you might be doing a real 94-97kmph. with taller gearing you will get a near perfect speedo. check at gearing commander on how much % gain you will get with going one teeth drop at rear.
now another thing. instead of dropping teeth at rear rather play with +/- teeth at front if you really wanna try. its more effective. functionality and pocket wise.
i have been there and done it. back to stock. Honda got the gearing just right."A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."
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