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When was the last you refueled? How much fuel is left over in the tank? Did you refuel at your trusted fuel station or at some new place?

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Hi guys,what is the price of cone set of a cbr 250.My Friend owns a 2012 honda cbr 250r and he wants to know the price!!

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Check a couple of pages back. I remember somebody mentioning replacing cone-set because of a crash.

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Hi friends!

Just completed my 3rd (and last) service at Tansi Honda, Hoodi-Whitefield, Bangalore. Here's the experience log:

Sat, 11th Jan 2014:

• Made a service booking over the phone with Tansi Honda. The lady on the other end acknowledged the same, but I didn't get any confirmation over phone/email.

Sun, 12th Jan, 2014:

• Reached early on Sunday morning, around 8AM. One of the guys tried to turn me back, saying that the bike won't be serviced on Sunday and asked me to come back on Monday. Argued with him that I had an appointment and went inside to confirm.
• Initial Disappointment: The ladies at the reception had no details of my "confirmed" appointment. After searching all their trashed notes, someone came across a note with my vehicle number scribbled in RX Font (The font used by doctors for writing prescriptions)
• Access Granted! I proceed to greet Mr.Shamsundar, the Service Manager. A few minutes of conversation, and I knew he was the man. Before taking my vehicle in, he gave me a full visit of his workshop.
• Initial Positive Note: The workshop is extremely spic-and-span. I mean it - spanking clean and extremely well organized! Makes you feel like you are at some international workshop. All work bays are well-spaced, with plenty of space to move around. No sorry, I wasn't permitted to take snaps.
• The CBR bay is a glasshouse inside the main service bay. Emphasis was on quality everywhere and they were transparent about everything. No "please wait outside sir, access denied" crap.
• Somehow, I found his emphasis on quality quite believable - for I could see with my eyes that they had dismantled the fairing from a ceeber and were washing the fairing separately, and were cleaning the chassis and undersides with good (I wouldn't use the phrase 'utmost care' here, 'good care' seems more like it. And yes, they use Tribocor chain sprays!
• Unfortunately, my bike couldn't complete it's service that particular day, Mr.Shamsundar confessed, as there were some more ceebers waiting. The most they would do on that day would be cleaning my bike, lubing the chain and leaving it overnight. And perhaps for the first time I didn't feel offended. They wanted to take their time in doing a good job, so better let them.
• Yes, I had ridden 20+ kilometers with my wifey to the Service Station, and we had planned to spend the whole day there watching the servicing. But now I was a bit concerned. Here came the sweetest bit - they offered a ride-out service, where a person coming in for service can leave his bike and pick up a brand new Activa or a Dream Yuga - so that his basic transportation needs aren't affected. This was the first time I heard of a Service Center offering such a facility and heartily appreciated this initiative.
• Pick up my 'temporary' Dream Yuga and leave.

Mon, 13th Jan, 2014

• I called up Mr.Shamsundar and requested to be present during the servicing. He tried telling me that it would be unnecessary and they'd do a great job, but didn't turn down the request the 2nd time. I planned to be there by 12PM.
• Was stuck with office work till 3 Pm and could reach there only by 3:30 PM. By this time, I had missed out on some serious aspects of the service. The engine oil change was done, air filters were changed, shim clearance check was over. Shims were normal and replacement at this stage weren't required.
• Front and rear brake pads were changed. Front pads were worn out to the metal (Yes, I was aware of the wear and was relying on the rear discs since the last few days).
• Coneset and coneset bearings were checked, fork alignment checked, but wobbling still existed under heavy braking. The issue was finally pegged at a bent alloy, though I wasn't very convinced on the same.
• Dent on tank not repaired. It'd cost a hefty 2500 bucks to mend a tiny dent on the tank. I was suggested to file an insurance claim and settle the bent alloy and tank replacement in one shot. Please advice!!!!
• RH footpeg not replaced, spared not available. Still using RTR180 footpegs.
• Handlebar Balancers not available, still using P150's balancers.

Post-service experience:

• Bike smoother, but not as much as expected. I was expecting the air filter and oil change to work wonders for the smoothness, but the bike still feels harsh and vibrations are felt on the handlebars and footpegs.
• Pickup has improved and it's quicker to touch 100 at the slightest provocation (previously bit sluggish after 80)

Total Expenses Incurred:

• Front Brake Pads: Rs.1850 (incl tax)
• Rear brake pads: Rs.1250 (incl tax)
• FS Engine Oil: Rs.1000 (incl tax)
• Air Filter Element: Rs.300 (incl tax)
• Chain Lubing : Rs.150
• Wash & Wax : Rs.150
• Consumables: Rs. 150
• VAT, TAX and all other crap: Rs. 500
• TOTAL : Rs. 5400 (incl tax and 1% charge for credit cards)

Overall Rating:

• Infrastructure facility: 5/5
• Customer Servicing: 5/5
• Technical Knowledge: 4/5
• Service execution: 3.5/5
• Spares availability: 3/5

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Congrats for the Yuga!
Regarding the bold parts above:

1. 1% or 2% charge for credit cards is a scam and it has to be borne by the merchant, not the customer!
2. What consumables are we talking about here? Engine oil and other consumables have already been charged for!
3. Is chain cleaning/bike detailing mandatory? Can't you opt it out? I feel you could have saved ~400-500 rupees there.

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Hmm, one more thing. Why tax you again along with VAT? All your consumables were taxed already, right?

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Frankly speaking Divya, these guys are out to con. It's just like if the regular Shanthi Sagar guy cons you, you put up a fight, but if PizzaHut or Mainland China cons you, you pay up

Just like restaurants, these guys have a VAT, a Service Tax AND a Service Charge of Rs.300 to add to the overall bill. When I confronted the cashier over the 'service charge' he asked me to refer to the technician, who had left by then. The service manager explained that the SC was for the brakepad replacement @150 per brakepad. As per his perspective, brakepad replacement wasn't covered under 'free' service.
Was in no mood to argue with them as I already mentioned before.

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Would like to know more on the above points:
I was quoted 5000 for the front alloys and 2500 for the tank repair. Considering the fact that there are people who do alloy alignment and repairs, is it worth repairing the alloy and the dented tank? Or should I file an insurance claim and replace both, as the service manager advised me?

Another observation: post the service, the exhaust note is a bit hoarse, kind of an angry growl, especially in the 4000-5000 RPM band. Could that be an issue? [MENTION=51754]theironhorse99[/MENTION], [MENTION=33779]icemang[/MENTION], [MENTION=26407]aargee[/MENTION] and other experienced owners, your opinion please?

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If you changed your air filter, then not an issue; I had similar experience both the times I got my air filter changed.

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My own opinion only, so do take it as such without fear or favour.

1. Alloy wheels dent repair. Alloy wheels, like spanners, are forged or cast. In the case of the CBR 250, I hazard a guess (based on the econo-sports bike category of the product) that the wheels are cast under low or high pressure or even worse, gravity (if any reader has authentic info in negation or confirmation, please chip in). This means that any damage to the wheel by way of even a small dent spells unpredictability in the wheel's future response to stress and strain.

I have personally seen that a dented steel wheel rim (my father's Premier Padmini of circa 1970s) will function quite predictably for years while a dented pseudo mag alloy wheel (Suzuki Esteem of the late 80s) will rapidly deteriorate to cracks and disintegration. Again, the intrinsic quality of the said alloy wheel is a critical factor in the above situation.

I am sure you have seen the earlier wheel rims (spoke type) of bicycles and motorcycles going out of true and the roadside mech taking the "out" of the rim out of it and the said wheel rim going on for years, as a case in point.

If MY CBRs rim got bent, I would definitely get it replaced under insurance rather than have it repaired by hammering out the dent with a padded hammer. Somehow, cast parts being repaired give me nightmares.

2. Fuel tank. I think the tank is folded mild steel plate. If the repairer has steady and caring hands and a suitably padded hammer, he will be able to ease out the dent without any structural damage (bents, folds, kinks and cracks) to the metal. Some guys force air under pressure to ease out the dent (horrors).Yes, the strength and ipso facto the integrity of the tank will be compromised. And this so for a hazardous fluid holder part!

One gets those clamp kind of things which do a Spiderman act on the edges of the dent and the central threaded bolt is screwed out to gently pull the dent OUT to the original place. This seems quite safe as the (now improperly) bent metal is simply (properly unbent) and re-bent into its original shape, if you get what I mean.

For me, the same course of action as for the alloy - replace under insurance after trying the Spiderman rig. The thought that the hammer/air may have cracked the metal and this crack may leak one of the most dangerous substances made by Man is enough to, again, give me insomnia!

3. Hoarse exhaust note post filter change. Yes, I observed this on my bike too. It seems to be a function of the engine breathing easier after the air filter change thereby causing some tonal changes in the passage of air thru the exhaust. Something akin to one's own voice with and without a cold, I suppose.

Ride safe, ride strong, ride long.

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Thanks for sharing the experience, I feel easier now!!!

Both cases sound scary! I too was under the impression that alloys can't be repaired, but some further research yesterday led me to believe that alloys can be repaired with heat treatment and there are people who actually do it. However, as you have mentioned, I guess it's wiser to be on the safer side.


Coming to lighter stuff....little red baby blade turns one today!!! So here's a collage with some of the most memorable moments spent with 'er!!!

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Any one tried ceat Dhoom 3 tired? Its power profile though.
Continental cost- 3050, Ceat - 3200/-

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Have those tyres actually hit the market? The only place you can find them is on autoblogs. Ceat's website doesn't list these tyres anywhere and the 120/80 Sport is the widest they have to offer right now. If I had to buy a tyre on a tight budget, I'd rather put my money on MRF or Dunlops.

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Ceat normal and H rated tyres in 140 are available apparently. You'll need to contact the distributor for your area.
The website is never updated for some reason.

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Yes. The tires are in the market. I saw just today at Ceat Shoppe at Cuttack. 140/60.
I have good experience with Ceat on my RTR. So, putting it in my list.