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  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by SparKot View Post
    Apparently, you were a victim of optical illusions.

    Measure it with a tape next time, don't believe your senses all the time; esp to make vital decisions.
    Yes, agreed.
    To my surprise, the service center guys were so ready to change the 17k Kms old rear monoshock under warranty.. as soon as their verification was complete that the rear suspension was infact faulty.. but in the end it was nothing like that.

    Originally posted by sumedh11n View Post
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    I feel it is important to quote this post again.. and notify [MENTION=62962]sumedh11n[/MENTION] that his bike is most likely fine as it came out from showroom. Please place it on the left of the same bike in the picture above and see yourself.

    let me remind you that a tiny difference in rear height will be there if you fiddle with the suspension setting, my advice.. just leave it as it is.

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      @broken87, Itll be better for you and your bike if you get rid of those tyres ASAP.. I thought itll be fine like this when my tyres got bald.. Till i had a crash. I panic braked from 70 for ONE single second, before i decreased pressure, that was enough for the tyre to try and kill me.. [ all this on a completely DRY road with a retarded auto driver in the middle of it ]
      One week, 14k and a sliced shin later, i went and bought new tyres.. Just threw those stupid old tyres away.. Best thing ive ever done..

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      • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

        Originally posted by broken87 View Post
        ...
        To my surprise, the service center guys were so ready to change the 17k Kms old rear monoshock under warranty.. as soon as their verification was complete that the rear suspension was infact faulty.. but in the end it was nothing like that.
        Loha garam tha, maar dena tha hathoda. Did they discover that there was nothing wrong with suspension?

        Originally posted by broken87 View Post
        ...
        let me remind you that a tiny difference in rear height will be there if you fiddle with the suspension setting, my advice.. just leave it as it is.
        That's there, adjusting suspension affecting rear-height.

        But the question remains: What's the purpose of adjustable rear-suspension (mono/dual)?

        Is it because
        when you go for a long tour two-up, pre-load will be high & suspension ought to be adjusted to counteract pre-load.
        or
        suspension deteriorates overtime & need apt setting for optimal suspension travel.


        Originally posted by razr View Post
        @broken87, Itll be better for you and your bike if you get rid of those tyres ASAP.. I thought itll be fine like this when my tyres got bald.. Till i had a crash. I panic braked from 70 for ONE single second, before i decreased pressure, that was enough for the tyre to try and kill me.. [ all this on a completely DRY road with a retarded auto driver in the middle of it ]
        One week, 14k and a sliced shin later, i went and bought new tyres.. Just threw those stupid old tyres away.. Best thing ive ever done..
        Don't baldy-tyres give best grip(straight-line) on tarmac, ignoring they're more puncture-prone. Agreed they're the worst on wet/muddy surface.
        Last edited by SparKot; 07-25-2014, 06:28 PM.
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          Bald tyre does not give best grip on dry tarmac....there is a difference between bald tyres and slick tyres.

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          • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

            Originally posted by SparKot View Post
            Don't baldy-tyres give best grip(straight-line) on tarmac, ignoring they're more puncture-prone. Agreed they're the worst on wet/muddy surface.
            Not at all! Those are racing tires you're talking about.. Those tyres wear out very soon, because they work and high speed and temperatures. Which is why they change them fast..

            Road tyres are way harder for longevity and puncture resistance and meant for different speed ratings and heat. The eurogrips are the hardest compound tyre ive seen anywhere..[ which is why they last so long]

            If you check tyre company websites, they mention markers for when to change your tyre.. These are the maximum limit of these tyres, once the markers are seen, change tyres or risk lack of grip [ along with more punctures].

            The lack of grip is due to the tyre not being able to heat up normally. The eurogrips are already hard compound tyres [so lesser grip until they get heated up], So when theyre done, theyre done.. Which is more than enough reason to change them fast..

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              [MENTION=67839]razr[/MENTION] I agree with your points.

              Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
              Bald tyre does not give best grip on dry tarmac....there is a difference between bald tyres and slick tyres...
              Nope, I'm not talking about slick tyres. That said I've not experimented with stock-baldy tyres for hard-braking on dry tarmac.

              But theoretically doesn't it make sense? Baldy effectiveness in straight-line hard-braking not cornering.

              I agree with the fact that running on worn-out tyre is foolishness.
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              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                Loha garam tha, maar dena tha hathoda. Did they discover that there was nothing wrong with suspension?



                That's there, adjusting suspension affecting rear-height.

                But the question remains: What's the purpose of adjustable rear-suspension (mono/dual)?

                Is it because
                when you go for a long tour two-up, pre-load will be high & suspension ought to be adjusted to counteract pre-load.
                or
                suspension deteriorates overtime & need apt setting for optimal suspension travel.




                Don't baldy-tyres give best grip(straight-line) on tarmac, ignoring they're more puncture-prone. Agreed they're the worst on wet/muddy surface.
                lol loha garam tha, maar dena tha hathoda ? You mean I should've cheated & settled for a brand new suspension under warranty ? hah.. I could've done that but I felt lazy and just wanted to leave the SVC knowing that everything's fine with the bike.
                we found there's nothing wrong with the suspension. As soon as I had described my problem and showed the proof pictures on my smartphone to the mechanic, he instantly said, if the rear monoshock proves to be the culprit he will contact the warranty manager and get it changed asap which shall increase the rear height... upon detailed inspection & test ride he found nothing like that.
                I think suspension may deteriorate overtime & need adjustments but not so fast at 17k Kms..
                [MENTION=67839]razr[/MENTION]
                I understand your point and the risk. But I'm rather confident with the bald rear tyre as of now (front tyre still got much life). It's more flat surfaced and the bike feels so light, smooth and stable at high speeds. Surprisingly more planted for now.. I'm careful with braking, I found that under braking the rear tyre isn't locking up as it used to... when it does lock up & skids, which I do on purpose, it feels like it has more grip on the road than earlier. Weird stuff ! 17k Kms on ODO and I plan to push them till 22k. ez.

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                  Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                  That said I've not experimented with stock-baldy tyres for hard-braking on dry tarmac.
                  Its better you dont try it.. However good handling a bike is, the tyres WILL slip on normal roads. Just due to the fact that there will always be a bit of sand/debris on the road, which will lower the friction needed for the tyre to stop [the tyre, in turn having very less already]
                  The only possibility i see this being do-able is: Having super stunt skill and balance, the speed you're stopping from and of course the state of the road [fresh tarmac with no sand will be perfect] Theoretically of course..

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                  Originally posted by broken87 View Post
                  I understand your point and the risk. But I'm rather confident with the bald rear tyre as of now (front tyre still got much life). It's more flat surfaced and the bike feels so light, smooth and stable at high speeds. Surprisingly more planted for now.. I'm careful with braking, I found that under braking the rear tyre isn't locking up as it used to... when it does lock up & skids, which I do on purpose, it feels like it has more grip on the road than earlier. Weird stuff ! 17k Kms on ODO and I plan to push them till 22k. ez.
                  Your choice. But, i recommend you keep your tyre pressure lesser than normal, will help the tyre to be more planted as more of it will be in contact with the ground.. Just in case something out of your control happens..

                  Those front tyres are better off.. Since the weight of the bike is front biased, they can be handled fine.. I didnt change my fronts till 24k..

                  And also when you do finally change tyres, change both at the same time.. After which, you will notice that the bike handles seriously way better than it used to!! You'll feel like leaning for all the small curves you go through!!
                  Last edited by razr; 07-25-2014, 07:49 PM.

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                  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                    Originally posted by broken87 View Post
                    lol loha garam tha, maar dena tha hathoda ? You mean I should've cheated & settled for a brand new suspension under warranty ? hah.. I could've done that but I felt lazy and just wanted to leave the SVC knowing that everything's fine with the bike.
                    ...
                    I wouldn't call it cheating, rather grabbing the opportunity when it presents itself.

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                    Originally posted by broken87 View Post
                    I understand your point and the risk. But I'm rather confident with the bald rear tyre as of now (front tyre still got much life). It's more flat surfaced and the bike feels so light, smooth and stable at high speeds. Surprisingly more planted for now.. I'm careful with braking, I found that under braking the rear tyre isn't locking up as it used to... when it does lock up & skids, which I do on purpose, it feels like it has more grip on the road than earlier. Weird stuff ! 17k Kms on ODO and I plan to push them till 22k. ez.
                    Be careful what you wish for. Despite all the positives you see with baldy tyres, you never know how riding conditions present themselves. There is reason why we have minimum thread-depth for riding.
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                    • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                      Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                      I wouldn't call it cheating, rather grabbing the opportunity when it presents itself.

                      During early & mid 90's even people with private computer courses were hired for IT jobs.



                      Be careful what you wish for. Despite all the positives you see with baldy tyres, you never know how riding conditions present themselves. There is reason why we have minimum thread-depth for riding.
                      Exactly! Trust me the company cheats more consumers then vice versa:screwy:
                      Also... the rear nitrox usually dont last more then 40k kms(max 25 to 30k usually they go..)
                      Fzs? R15? Ktm duke? Unicorn? Trigger? Dazzler? Any other mono shock compatible?!

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                      • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                        Originally posted by razr View Post
                        Your choice. But, i recommend you keep your tyre pressure lesser than normal, will help the tyre to be more planted as more of it will be in contact with the ground.. Just in case something out of your control happens..

                        Those front tyres are better off.. Since the weight of the bike is front biased, they can be handled fine.. I didnt change my fronts till 24k..

                        And also when you do finally change tyres, change both at the same time.. After which, you will notice that the bike handles seriously way better than it used to!! You'll feel like leaning for all the small curves you go through!!
                        yes, that's the plan, both tyres at same time.
                        I'm leaning on curves even right now on the baldy I have. xD

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                        • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                          Changed bunks, from shell to HP/IO because i was facing bad fuel efficiency. Tried the worst of heck pumps i could find just to experiment. New 'non-shell' mileage achieved was 48 km/l in city. With shell? 30.

                          Who else faced this kind of mileage drop with shell petrol?

                          I will soon stick to one reliable HP pump. I dont want crappy adulterated petrol in my bike's system off some heck pumps. But im really glad to say, although we have a high revving high performance engine, it can still take bad fuel and return good fuel efficiency. Oh the benefits of having a carburetor!

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                          • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                            Originally posted by broken87 View Post
                            yes, that's the plan, both tyres at same time.
                            I'm leaning on curves even right now on the baldy I have. xD
                            Oh, just you wait for the new ones... The feel you get on new tyres will be amazing!

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                            Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
                            Changed bunks, from shell to HP/IO because i was facing bad fuel efficiency. Tried the worst of heck pumps i could find just to experiment. New 'non-shell' mileage achieved was 48 km/l in city. With shell? 30.

                            Who else faced this kind of mileage drop with shell petrol?

                            I will soon stick to one reliable HP pump. I dont want crappy adulterated petrol in my bike's system off some heck pumps. But im really glad to say, although we have a high revving high performance engine, it can still take bad fuel and return good fuel efficiency. Oh the benefits of having a carburetor!

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                            Tried both, no difference.. i get 38-40 no matter what.. Which petrol bunk in mysore are you filling from? I stick to shell as atleast i get good service and no different qualities of petrol.
                            And youre bikes been joel'ed right??
                            Last edited by razr; 07-25-2014, 09:18 PM.

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                            • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                              Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
                              Changed bunks, from shell to HP/IO because i was facing bad fuel efficiency. Tried the worst of heck pumps i could find just to experiment. New 'non-shell' mileage achieved was 48 km/l in city. With shell? 30.

                              Who else faced this kind of mileage drop with shell petrol?

                              I will soon stick to one reliable HP pump. I dont want crappy adulterated petrol in my bike's system off some heck pumps. But im really glad to say, although we have a high revving high performance engine, it can still take bad fuel and return good fuel efficiency. Oh the benefits of having a carburetor!

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                              Whoa 48 km/l , average speed maintained ? still running with the shorter sprocket right.

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                              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                                Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
                                Changed bunks, from shell to HP/IO because i was facing bad fuel efficiency. Tried the worst of heck pumps i could find just to experiment. New 'non-shell' mileage achieved was 48 km/l in city. With shell? 30.

                                Who else faced this kind of mileage drop with shell petrol?
                                ...
                                Did you do it using mileage-test-can method?
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