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  • Another query. When on lower rpms say 3500 i hear a sound from the engine. Its sounds like a tiny pump so could this be the sound of the coolant pump operating?

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    • Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
      That 1cm is the "softest" setting. By default the bike come on 2nd softest setting. On the left where only 1 groove is left is the SOFTEST setting. As we towards the harder settings, the suspension get's compresses, and bascially lowers the height.
      Hehe...that 1cm is the hardest one mate.I verified it with the svc guy.But when I said that I want to increase the height of the rear end by switching to hardest setting he said that it won't do any change to the height , whether its the softest or the hardest mode , the ride height is fixed...but still I'm not sure...maybe he was just lazy to do it ( as he was in a hurry ) & was trolling with me..

      I hope this will be more helpful :
      Last edited by nishant.sukharia; 08-29-2012, 03:45 PM.

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      • ^^^.about half-clutch-gear-shifting= You just need to make sure you are far enough down - typically you'd need to depress the clutch than half-way down maybe around 2/3 but it varies between bikes due to the level of clutch wear,clutch cable adjustment

        , it's probably best to depress the clutch the whole way rather than risk excessive wear or badly messing up a gear change if you don't get it right.
        and the question remains why do i race?
        every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

        #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
        #overkill is underrated.
        #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
        #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

        (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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        • Originally posted by nishant.sukharia View Post
          Hehe...that 1cm is the hardest one mate.I verified it with the svc guy.

          I hope this will be more helpful :
          Yes, that's what I was trying to say. The new pics explains it better and is correct.

          However, the increase in 1cm DOES NOT mean that the height is increased, it actually decreases.

          Think that the mono suspension is one single unit. The either ends actually one single unit. So, practically there's negligible difference in the saddle height!
          Been There, Done That; Better!

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          • Originally posted by ashwini.anand23 View Post
            6. Gears have become hard, false neutrals (between 1 - N - 2 gear switch) are a often case. Also, while downshifting from 6 gear to 4, 3 or 2, I even need to leave clutch to get the gears placed at a particular gear. They said, it will be rectified at next service. Till then, I have to deal with it. They don't want to address the gear issue anyway.
            Even I have been feeling this issue since day 1. The false neutral between 1 and 2nd gears. Never had it in higher gears though. But I the lever does become free once in a while when going down from 6 to 1 in single go. I had that thing in my passion as well.

            Originally posted by csajal View Post
            In the previous gen Pulsar and this is specially true with my previous Pulsar 200, the clutch operation worked -

            1) Pull in the clutch full
            2) Change the gear
            3) Then slightly release the clutch to engage.

            This kind of clutch action is specially true for most touring motorcycles, specially cruisers.

            For Sports motorcycles, be it faired or naked, the clutch action is a bit different, as in sports the need to quickly shift between gears and in such an action pulling in the clutch all the way in is not the smartest thing to do. The same applies for NS. The clutch action for the NS is -

            1) Slightly pull in the clutch, may be a couple of cm
            2) Change the gear
            3) Release the clutch to engage.

            The faster you do it the prompt is the gear action. From the day I started doing this, I never had false neutral, neither during up-shifts or down-shifts.

            So, basically it's the perception of clutch and gear I had from my previous Pulsar 200 due to which I was having some discomfort with the gearing of the NS, but what I forgot is that the NS is here to change perceptions and it's doing bloddy well
            Actually, the SVC guy told me 2 days ago to retract the clutch fully while changing gears. I have a habit of retracting it a little shift and leave the clutch immediately, the quick-shift style. Never had issue with passion. Not with NS as such. But after SVC guy told me I am retracting the clutch fully.

            Also I think if the speed is matching for that particular gear, quickly leaving the clutch should not be and issue. In this case the difference between the rpm of the two sides (driver and driven) will not be much.

            Originally posted by kaydee_bangalore View Post
            But that would produce a Khat khat sound specially while downshifting i guess...
            Well anyways I will give it a try while going home today
            To hell with this "khat-khat" sound with gear change. It irritates me soooo much. As such i feel the gears are hard. Even after oil change no significant change in it for me. The other day I was riding Unicorn and the gear gave soft "click-click" sound which was pleasant to hear as well.

            Originally posted by faffy View Post
            Yes, i am aware of that speed stuff..... but the issue is sometimes when i am trying to downshift in single clutch pull, the gear lever becomes totally free and then to downshift more i have to let the next lower gear engage and then downshift again... have u or anybody else noticed this?

            Also other experienced members, plz throw light on pulling clutch little and changing gears.... is it advisable?
            Second that observation. Generally its good to shift down gradually, but in traffic sometimes you have no option.
            Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--
            I took the one less traveled by,
            And that has made all the difference...


            --Robert Frost

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            • Originally posted by nishant.sukharia View Post
              Hehe...that 1cm is the hardest one mate.I verified it with the svc guy.

              I hope this will be more helpful :
              exactly.... Perfect
              @rahuldevnath: you are just considering the spring compression... You are not considering the height of the lobes which increases as you compress the spring... Basically you dont compress the spring...you compress the gas inside... Try it on the svc once... I told you i am 100000% sure...
              Well rohan200ns did it on his duke. Let him confirm
              Last edited by Rahulbarik; 08-29-2012, 03:53 PM.
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              • Originally posted by Rahulbarik View Post
                exactly.... Perfect
                @rahuldevnath: you are just considering the spring compression... You are not considering the height of the lobes which increases as you compress the spring... Basically you dont compress the spring...you compress the gas inside... Try it on the svc once... I told you i am 100000% sure...
                Well rohan200ns did it on his duke. Let him confirm
                We don't compress the gas or the oil inside the canister. The OIL inside the canister is for REBOUND DAMPENING and much for the compression stroke. When we put the suspension to hardest setting, we are basically COMPRESSING the springs, so that the travel during compression is less, because there's already PRELOAD on the springs. What you are talking about happens in Hydraulic Pre-load adjustment, where OIL is used set pre loads isntead of the manual collar.

                Just consider the suspension, as a single unit again. When both the ends of suspension are at a fixed maximum position (by default the springs will take the maximum space), how can you increase the length of the suspension again!

                I could be wrong, but I will check it again. I will try do it on twin setup shocks for easy understanding.
                But actually the suspension setup, doesn't make a difference to the saddle height after all!
                Last edited by rahuldevnath; 08-29-2012, 04:07 PM.
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                • Khat Khat sound while downshifting

                  Originally Posted by kaydee_bangalore
                  But that would produce a Khat khat sound specially while downshifting i guess...
                  Well anyways I will give it a try while going home today


                  When you hear "Khat - Khat" sound while downshifting suggests you are downshifting the gears at higher speed. Slow the bike down using your brakes as far as possible and then quickly press the clutch and then downshift the gears at required speed ...try this and the khat khat sound will not appear.

                  Many a times i have observed people use their clutch and brakes simultaneously to slow down and simultaneously downshift at higher speeds...avoid this...

                  Khat khat sound suggests you are not downshifting properly....

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                  • Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
                    We don't compress the gas or the oil inside the canister. The OIL inside the canister is for REBOUND DAMPENING and much for the compression stroke. When we put the suspension to hardest setting, we are basically COMPRESSING the springs, so that the travel during compression is less, because there's already PRELOAD on the springs.

                    Just consider the suspension, as a single unit again. When both the ends of suspension are at a fixed maximum position (by default the springs will take the maximum space), how can you increase the length of the suspension again!

                    I could be wrong, but I will check it again. I will try do it on twin setup shocks for easy understanding.
                    Hmmm...well considering both the possibilities I think that whatever happens to the ride height , it won't be 1 cm for sure...i.e if it increases it'll increase by 4-5mm & if it decreases it'll decrease by 4-5mm...
                    Still try on the twin setup please...

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                    • Originally posted by csajal View Post
                      The gear lever becoming free used to happen with me before but not now

                      Basically it's the combination of the technique and also the gear box settling down
                      Thanks...so while downshifting also u use half clutch??? Anways il try nd see.....
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                      • Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post
                        Actually, the SVC guy told me 2 days ago to retract the clutch fully while changing gears. I have a habit of retracting it a little shift and leave the clutch immediately, the quick-shift style. Never had issue with passion. Not with NS as such. But after SVC guy told me I am retracting the clutch fully.

                        Also I think if the speed is matching for that particular gear, quickly leaving the clutch should not be and issue. In this case the difference between the rpm of the two sides (driver and driven) will not be much.



                        To hell with this "khat-khat" sound with gear change. It irritates me soooo much. As such i feel the gears are hard. Even after oil change no significant change in it for me. The other day I was riding Unicorn and the gear gave soft "click-click" sound which was pleasant to hear as well.



                        Second that observation. Generally its good to shift down gradually, but in traffic sometimes you have no option.
                        95% of the janta in this country have still not been able to get over the HH CD 100 SS days. The SVC guys tell a lot of things which are more of a standard norm rather than being a logical translation of the real world scenarios. It's upto us what to retain and what to filter. Classic example is the run-in procedure. What the SVC guys say (or for that matter the manual says) and what we have discussed in this forum as applicable in real world scenario are very much different

                        About that "Khat Khat", I'm pretty much sure that it's the engine-gear box marriage trying to settle down and post the incubation period of 2k km, things should move pretty smoothly!!
                        Twist your wrist and feel the shift!!

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                        • Originally posted by csajal View Post
                          No disrespect taken man. I'm here to learn, and even if any senior says that I'm wrong I would be happy at least I would have learnt a new thing that I'm not supposed to do and that would make me a better rider and more importantly a better owner of my steed.
                          Kudos for the attitude man.. Keep it up..

                          Originally posted by csajal View Post
                          Think about it, if clutch plates would have been at risk, the concept of quick shifter wouldn't have been there in SBKs where you are shifting up (and only up) without need to pull in the clutch. The concept of a quick shifter works because in sports machines you need to pull in the clutch very slightly to engage the gear (I hope I'm correct here)
                          Now, I didn't knew abt that
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                          • Originally posted by nishant.sukharia View Post
                            Hmmm...well considering both the possibilities I think that whatever happens to the ride height , it won't be 1 cm for sure...i.e if it increases it'll increase by 4-5mm & if it decreases it'll decrease by 4-5mm...
                            Still try on the twin setup please...
                            Uff guess we will have to get a bajaj engineer to XBHP to resolve this .LOL
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                            • Originally posted by Vineet_200 View Post
                              Uff guess we will have to get a bajaj engineer to XBHP to resolve this .LOL
                              Hehe...indeed...and as a matter of fact I'm gonna have a chance to talk to one on my NS' 1st service...I'll ask him this stuff & some modification queries as well...

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                              • Originally posted by sree@mumbai View Post
                                Originally Posted by kaydee_bangalore
                                But that would produce a Khat khat sound specially while downshifting i guess...
                                Well anyways I will give it a try while going home today


                                When you hear "Khat - Khat" sound while downshifting suggests you are downshifting the gears at higher speed. Slow the bike down using your brakes as far as possible and then quickly press the clutch and then downshift the gears at required speed ...try this and the khat khat sound will not appear.

                                Many a times i have observed people use their clutch and brakes simultaneously to slow down and simultaneously downshift at higher speeds...avoid this...

                                Khat khat sound suggests you are not downshifting properly....
                                I am not getting khat khat sound always.. i downshift only at proper speeds, but i thought if we downshift with only half clutch applied as suggested by @csajal then we might get that khat khat sound..
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