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**Ashay Tamhane** · 11-04-2012, 08:12 PM

Nah my odo is just 70km odd.

Originally posted by myth2104 View Post

Whats your odo? If its above 500-600 then I think you should take it well beyond the 60kmph mark.

**Rahulbarik** · 11-04-2012, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by govind.one View Post

I tried moving through some sand and gravel.. didn`t find it very confidence inspiring... but it didn`t scare me to stop riding... so.. next change to my bumblebee would be PSD then!

if you are less than 8k on ODO go for 5100 SS 15w50... else move to Fully Synthetic Motul 300v... No more confusion! 15 represents the viscosity of the oil at 0 degree Centigrade... and 50 the viscosity of the oil at 100 degree Centigrade.. So for any oil XwY would mean: X - viscosity of the oil at 0 degree Centigrade. Y - viscosity of the oil at 100 degree Centigrade. So if you ride in colder conditions... choose a higher X value... in case you ride in hotter conditions more choose a greater Y value (highest is 50 to the best of my knowledge!). For normal conditions... 15W50 should be just perfect! Puncture-prone... I will take that considering my luck and roads here... I will switch to PSD Soon..!!! Motul Oil prices here in Chennai are also the same!

I am currently running on Motul 5100 SS... changed it on 445kms on ODO... Currently 1500 kms... Should I change it after 3k Kms or before that or after that?... I wouldn`t mind changing it a little early.. Engine is my first preference!

well motul 5100 is good till 2k kms after which its starts giving up slowly..but can be easily extended to 2.5k kms, not beyond that..it will become like water after it....

so change the oil when you hit 3k on odo...that will be good enough...

and pirelli it is if cash is not a problem.

but this revz looks killer...

**govind.one** · 11-04-2012, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by Rahulbarik View Post

well motul 5100 is good till 2k kms after which its starts giving up slowly..but can be easily extended to 2.5k kms, not beyond that..it will become like water after it....

so change the oil when you hit 3k on odo...that will be good enough...

and pirelli it is if cash is not a problem.

but this revz looks killer...

Awesome.. will get it changed by 2.5k kms!

Will try to get the PSD... else will stick to good old MRF REVZ... And yes.. MRF look sexier than PSD on this beast.. by the way... how much did Revz cost you?

**krish2778** · 11-04-2012, 08:25 PM

Motul 5100 loses its quality after 2k ?

You gotta be kidding me..>!!!
It holds up good for even 4k kms with little more life in it.
Been using it for over 20k kms.

You seem to be confused with the bajaj oil.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Originally posted by Rahulbarik View Post

well motul 5100 is good till 2k kms after which its starts giving up slowly..but can be easily extended to 2.5k kms, not beyond that..it will become like water after it....

so change the oil when you hit 3k on odo...that will be good enough...

and pirelli it is if cash is not a problem.

but this revz looks killer...

**aniketpassion** · 11-04-2012, 08:26 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by myth2104 View Post

Whats your odo? If its above 500-600 then I think you should take it well beyond the 60kmph mark.

Yes you get only 1ltr pack but you'll have to buy 2 packs for this. The remaining 800ml can be used to top up the oil later.

So should i buy another n refill or is it ok to use 1ltr now. Because i'll be servicing aftr 2000km.

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**mayank.travadi** · 11-04-2012, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by govind.one View Post

if you are less than 8k on ODO go for 5100 SS 15w50... else move to Fully Synthetic Motul 300v... No more confusion!

15 represents the viscosity of the oil at 0 degree Centigrade... and 50 the viscosity of the oil at 100 degree Centigrade..

So for any oil XwY would mean:

X - viscosity of the oil at 0 degree Centigrade.
Y - viscosity of the oil at 100 degree Centigrade.

So if you ride in colder conditions... choose a higher X value... in case you ride in hotter conditions more choose a greater Y value (highest is 50 to the best of my knowledge!).

For normal conditions... 15W50 should be just perfect!

correction

u can lower the value of X and increase the value of high but never ever increase the value of X and lower the value of Y

the lower term represents the ability of the oil to retain viscosity and lower temperature and lower the value of X better cold start

so the NS has 20W50 rating one can go for 10W50 15W50 20W50

but never go to something like 30W50(these types of oil arent avalable in the market at all i suppose)

you can also go for 20W60 10W60 15W60 and so on(if there are oils of such rating available in market)

Originally posted by aniketpassion View Post

So should i buy another n refill or is it ok to use 1ltr now. Because i'll be servicing aftr 2000km.

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i guess it should be fine till u see that the oil level is between the max and min marks in the oil level window...

**govind.one** · 11-04-2012, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Motul 5100 loses its quality after 2k ?

You gotta be kidding me..>!!!
It holds up good for even 4k kms with little more life in it.
Been using it for over 20k kms.

You seem to be confused with the bajaj oil.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Bajaj will not even last 1k Kms... but one of my friend who uses Motul said the same... that it is better to change it after 2k kms... Are you sure I can change it by 5k kms on the ODO?

Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post

correction

u can lower the value of X and increase the value of high but never ever increase the value of X and lower the value of Y

the lower term represents the ability of the oil to retain viscosity and lower temperature and lower the value of X better cold start

so the NS has 20W50 rating one can go for 10W50 15W50 20W50

but never go to something like 30W50(these types of oil arent avalable in the market at all i suppose)

you can also go for 20W60 10W60 15W60 and so on(if there are oils of such rating available in market)

i guess it should be fine till u see that the oil level is between the max and min marks in the oil level window...

sorry bro!

Thanks for correcting!

So... in a 15w50 oil... 15 doesn`t mean the viscosity of the oil at o degree centrigrade?

**Rahulbarik** · 11-04-2012, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Motul 5100 loses its quality after 2k ?

You gotta be kidding me..>!!! It holds up good for even 4k kms with little more life in it. Been using it for over 20k kms. You seem to be confused with the bajaj oil. Cheers Ride Safe Krishna

lol

then how long do you think 300v lasts...? U'll use it 10k kms?

**krish2778** · 11-04-2012, 08:42 PM

Yes, 5k will be a risk factor if you are revving too much. 4k is enough.
Like i said, have been using it for over 20k kms more like 25k kms with 4k drain interval . and it still was not water like thickness, with motul the quality shows.

Originally posted by govind.one View Post

Bajaj will not even last 1k Kms... but one of my friend who uses Motul said the same... that it is better to change it after 2k kms... Are you sure I can change it by 5k kms on the ODO?

sorry bro!

Thanks for correcting!

So... in a 15w50 oil... 15 doesn`t mean the viscosity of the oil at o degree centrigrade?

Buddy, i have used all oils of motul range.
let me explain to you , this is with over 80k kms of riding experince with motul oils.
Motul 3100(Mineral) - Good for 2k.
Motul 5100(SS) - Performes exceptionally well for 4k kms, then shows occassional gear slipages
Motul 7100(FS)- 5k, used only once, did an over houl so, had to drain early.
Motul 300v(FS)- Hold good for 6k kms.

Experince with over 52k kms use in pulsar 220 and yamaha bike.

Cheers Mate
Ride Safe
Krishna

Originally posted by Rahulbarik View Post

lol

then how long do you think 300v lasts...? U'll use it 10k kms?

**Rahulbarik** · 11-04-2012, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by govind.one View Post

Bajaj will not even last 1k Kms... but one of my friend who uses Motul said the same... that it is better to change it after 2k kms... Are you sure I can change it by 5k kms on the ODO? sorry bro! Thanks for correcting! So... in a 15w50 oil... 15 doesn`t mean the viscosity of the oil at o degree centrigrade?

all my friends who use 5100 change oil at 2k to 2.5k and once my bro extended it to 3k kms on his 180 and it was very much evident that it nees to be changed..bike was quite rough....so i changed his oil in front of him it only about 700ml came out that too full black and like water... And he was just around 3.7k on odo... After that the used to change at 2k and no issues... Then he shifted to 300v and changed it at 5.5k interval... Now he runs 7100 and changes at 5k to 5.5k...

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Yes, 5k will be a risk factor if you are revving too much. 4k is enough. Like i said, have been using it for over 20k kms more like 25k kms with 4k drain interval . and it still was not water like thickness, with motul the quality shows. Buddy, i have used all oils of motul range. let me explain to you , this is with over 80k kms of riding experince with motul oils. Motul 3100(Mineral) - Good for 2k. Motul 5100(SS) - Performes exceptionally well for 4k kms, then shows occassional gear slipages Motul 7100(FS)- 5k, used only once, did an over houl so, had to drain early. Motul 300v(FS)- Hold good for 6k kms. Experince with over 52k kms use in pulsar 220 and yamaha bike. Cheers Mate Ride Safe Krishna

i agree with the 7100 and 300v but dont at all agree with 5100... It will last maximum 2.5k kms after that its not wise to keep the oil.... Btw 3100 is semi-synthetic...

**mayank.travadi** · 11-04-2012, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by govind.one View Post

Bajaj will not even last 1k Kms... but one of my friend who uses Motul said the same... that it is better to change it after 2k kms... Are you sure I can change it by 5k kms on the ODO?

sorry bro!

Thanks for correcting!

So... in a 15w50 oil... 15 doesn`t mean the viscosity of the oil at o degree centrigrade?

Obviously not...if it means viscosity then by 50 the oil would get thicker with temperature :P

refer engine oil thread for more details

**Shibadip** · 11-04-2012, 09:09 PM

Ok, found out a new issue this evening..
As i said yesterday, my rear brakes are very hard (Almost feather touch), and a slight tap will do the work of braking without locking up the tyres.
But I noticed that the brake lights don't glow up with that slight tap(although there is perfect braking), but the light glows up only when the the lever is pressed hard(which will lock up the tyres)

I know there is a brake light adjuster some where near the brake lever. Can anyone please guide me of how to adjust it..

**krish2778** · 11-04-2012, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by Rahulbarik View Post

all my friends who use 5100 change oil at 2k to 2.5k and once my bro extended it to 3k kms on his 180 and it was very much evident that it nees to be changed..bike was quite rough....so i changed his oil in front of him it only about 700ml came out that too full black and like water... And he was just around 3.7k on odo... After that the used to change at 2k and no issues... Then he shifted to 300v and changed it at 5.5k interval... Now he runs 7100 and changes at 5k to 5.5k...

i agree with the 7100 and 300v but dont at all agree with 5100... It will last maximum 2.5k kms after that its not wise to keep the oil.... Btw 3100 is semi-synthetic...

Buddy, there are many reasons pointing towards such behavior, and you just had that experience once, even in premium products there can be defects.

Engine oil quality varies according to
1. Run-in of engine
2. Operating style(Ripping or sedate style)
3. Piston rings condition
4. Head leakage
5.Riding style
and so on. So nothing fixed can be said, that's why i said, in most general case holds upto 4k without any problem.
The reason i'm so sure is because , i have been using this oil for long time and i haven't had this issue, my pulsar is over 50k kms in just 2 years, used mostly 5100 and 300v and thus i'm saying this. Whereas you had a bad experience once and left it there. That wouldn't be a good advise to others just because you had one bad experience.

If that oil would lose quality at 2k itself, then i would have run it 2k and at time 3k over its limit and would have damaged my engine, but my engine is still running fresh , at 52k kms. I hope you get my point. Just one use-age and you cant give a verdict, use-age over time and general public use-age views also have to be considered.

Cheers Mate
Ride Safe
Krishna

**muztariq** · 11-04-2012, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by Rahulbarik View Post

all my friends who use 5100 change oil at 2k to 2.5k and once my bro extended it to 3k kms on his 180 and it was very much evident that it needs to be changed..bike was quite rough....so i changed his oil in front of him it only about 700ml came out that too full black and like water... And he was just around 3.7k on odo... After that the used to change at 2k and no issues... Then he shifted to 300v and changed it at 5.5k interval... Now he runs 7100 and changes at 5k to 5.5k...

i agree with the 7100 and 300v but dont at all agree with 5100... It will last maximum 2.5k kms after that its not wise to keep the oil.... Btw 3100 is semi-synthetic...

Oils is a very personal topic. An oil which works for you may not work for me, even if we have the same bike. Regarding volume getting low.. I have used servo oil repeatedly for 6 months and around 5k kms (regularly) for 7-8 years(when I didnt knew what engine oil change frequencies should be).. It never showed any loss of volume.

In my bike I may get good performance for 3K from the same oil which you may like to discard in 500 kms in yours.. we cant generalize here.

By the way, I came to the thread to know the mileage figures of 200NS under normal usage - Will search the thread.. No worries.

**mayank.travadi** · 11-04-2012, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by muztariq View Post

By the way, I came to the thread to know the mileage figures of 200NS under normal usage - Will search the thread.. No worries.

i got around 40 under sane riding(havent even crossed 10km and never exceeded 4.5K rpm)

some get above 33-35 in harsh riding....

some get 50+ in same highway riding(i knw its strange)

so u can average it out to 40

also heard that revving the engine at 4.5K to 5.5K rpm will give better FE figures than keeping it under 4K rpm

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