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  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS

    Originally posted by sambit View Post
    Friends, a question - How worthy/significant an upgrade is P200NS from RTR 180??
    Have test rode it thrice. pick up is marginally good. May be found it less, as the bikes were in run in.
    Liked every thing, except the stupid exhaust note.
    I am in a similar position except that I haven't test driven the NS yet. I'm really, really, really confused. Some day I settle on the R15, next day the Pulsar, I really don't know what to do. Budget constraints keep the Duke out of contention..


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    • Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
      Rode it above hundred only twice or thrice? What...are you afraid of spoiling the engine? Come on man, it's a 23.5 bhp 200 cc engine which deserves to run beyond that! Your second service is already over which means it doesn't hurt to ride the bike any way you want.
      Regarding rattling at 3000 rpm, the powerband of this bike lies above that engine speed so shift optimally between 4 and 5k rpm when you are in the mood for fuel efficiency. Riding very slow (i.e at very low revs) is pretty uncomfortable on my bike too. Don't know if you've gotten the rubber grommets installed or not so I can't comment on the vibes.
      I meant cruising over 100+. Had a highway trip of 200km to and fro. In Pune one can go only upto 80-90 that to on 2-3 roads. I have rode the bike at 70 during run in many times in shorts bursts..just to give it some high-speed dose. Its 23.5BHP engine, but above 5000rpm the vibrations are unbearable. every damn part rattles. I just don't feel like taking it beyond 5000 rpm. At 8-9000 rpm it feels like I am seating on a

      And yes, I have got those rubber grommets fitted. That made problems worse. The svc guy simply doesnot accept that initially vibs were less and says he can't reduce the vibs anymore.

      And i think the optimum rpm range for max efficiency is 3500 - 4000. This gives speed of about 50 in 5th and 6th gears. When my bike was new even at 2500 rpm it used to run smoothly. No lugging. I get max efficiency and better gear shift (even clutch-less) in this range.

      Originally posted by broken87 View Post
      Had a minor fall under braking over gravel .. had to apply brakes cause a pothole was in front with gravel all around. Just insane.. does every bike completely lose it's grip over gravel ? I can't understand this.. man I tried so hard to prevent from falling but bike lost it's grip instantly & slid. I never thought I'd say this.. these Tires really let me down this time. The knee guard took the entire hit & is bent, might replace it tmr.
      There is also little bit of gravel spread on the road that's right in front of my house, every time I come home & apply brakes even at low speeds.. the bike acts like it's gonna slide & scares the crap out of me.. SCARY!!!
      Tell me about it.. Same thing with me, have a road dug in at the entrance of our society and gravel spread oll over the place. I ride mu bike at 10kmph from there. Feel like NS is gliding in air with no contact with ground at all.

      I don't get good traction under braking on cement roads as well. I am considering changing the rear tire to MRF Zapper of p220 before some major mishap happens. 3-4 grand isn't a big cost for safety of life.

      Originally posted by ankur2smart View Post
      I followed all the running-in process religiously. I always fill shell petrol.
      Same here
      I am using Motul oil since 400km on ODO and has changed it trice already.
      why have you already changed your oil three times?
      I rode it above 100 only twice or trice. I lubricate the chain with OKS spray regularly. I wash the bike completely once in a while. You cannot pamper your bike any more than this. Still My bike has a lot of issues. Bike rattles even at 3000 rpm. Handlebar and foot pegs vibrate so much, even when I am just rolling the bike down a slop with engine shut off. Servicing the bike only makes issues worst. I have experience of 1st and 2nd servicing.
      Firstly one big advice Never run the bike on slope like that. I have read about so many mishaps happening to riders with that habit. Secondly, are you facing any serious heating issue? Also what about cold start?
      Well I was using Motul 3000 mineral oil. I changed DTSi oil at 400km to Motul 3000. Then at 1800 changed again keeping Motul 3000. Then at 4300km changed from Motul 3000 to Motul 5100. So 3 changes.

      I have idea about rolling on slope thinggy. Don't worry bro, I don't do it often. Only near my society entrance for some 200mtrs, generally to figure out any noises coming from the bike.

      No overheating issue. Never felt the radiator fan running lately. Have to rip it real hard to make it work. Or bumper to bumper traffic.
      Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--
      I took the one less traveled by,
      And that has made all the difference...


      --Robert Frost

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      • Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
        By budget constraints Yes NS200 is an upgrade VFM.

        BTW in what terms are you looking for an upgrade ?
        Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
        In my definition of *significant* upgrade, the most important factor is that the BHP should increase to atleast in the vicinity of 2x of your current bike. Anything less than that will not feel like a *significant* upgrade. For upgrading from RTR180, if I were you, I wouldn't pick anything less than 32-35 BHP.

        Suggestion: Save up for the 3xx cc Pulsar / Duke OR 473cc Hondas. Keep the bike till then. Upgrade to 200NS / Duke 200 only if it is absolutely essential.
        Well, Have been using the bike since 3.5 yrs(Its the longest duration, I have owned a bike ). Thats why, looking for a change. Its not mandatory. My budget is around 1.2 lacs(any thing above, I will have to go for finance option). R15 is perfect in that budget, but for that sorry Pillion seat. I am compromising only for the pillion. ZMR aint really of my liking. Hence only thing left is P200NS.
        About the P3XX, well, I always avoid the first lot, hence I will have to wait for atleast 1 more year. Better get a 200 and upgrade it after 2 yrs, to higher.
        But two changes, i ll need to do on the P200- Change the handel bar position to sporty one(RTR type). and change the console light to blue.
        I guess, performance wise, it might not be a big upgrade, But just for the sake of getting a new bike.
        What say??
        Last edited by sambit; 01-23-2013, 03:59 PM.
        HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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        • Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post
          I meant cruising over 100+. Had a highway trip of 200km to and fro. In Pune one can go only upto 80-90 that to on 2-3 roads. I have rode the bike at 70 during run in many times in shorts bursts..just to give it some high-speed dose. Its 23.5BHP engine, but above 5000rpm the vibrations are unbearable. every damn part rattles. I just don't feel like taking it beyond 5000 rpm. At 8-9000 rpm it feels like I am seating on a

          And yes, I have got those rubber grommets fitted. That made problems worse. The svc guy simply doesnot accept that initially vibs were less and says he can't reduce the vibs anymore.
          I am facing absolutely Similar issues.. And truth be told, this is the only issue that I Have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Along with the minor false neutral problem, for which I have adjusted my Style of riding.. )
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          • Originally posted by sambit View Post
            Well, Have been using the bike since 3.5 yrs(Its the longest duration, I have owned a bike ). Thats why, looking for a change. Its not mandatory. My budget is around 1.2 lacs(any thing above, I will have to go for finance option). R15 is perfect in that budget, but for that sorry Pillion seat. I am compromising only for the pillion. ZMR aint really of my liking. Hence only thing left is P200NS.
            About the P3XX, well, I always avoid the first lot, hence I will have to wait for atleast 1 more year. Better get a 200 and upgrade it after 2 yrs, to higher.
            But two changes, i ll need to do on the P200- Change the handel bar position to sporty one(RTR type). and change the console light to blue.
            I guess, performance wise, it might not be a big upgrade, But just for the sake of getting a new bike.
            What say??
            First think, without making significant alterations to the tank shrouds you won't be able to change to a sportier clip-on set as if you look closely, with the stock clip-on, the distance the handle bar and the tank shroud is minimal at full lock in.

            Second, changing the console light to blue would void your warranty (but you should be concerned about warranty if you choose to )

            Third the real power of the 200NS kicks in post 7k rpms, trying taking a test bike (either from the showroom or of your friend's... a bike that's properly runned in) and then see if it entices you
            Twist your wrist and feel the shift!!

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            • well my steed is having a khssssss noise in 5th gear.... any idea whats wrong?
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              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS

                Wow near to 10000 posts..

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                • Originally posted by Shibadip View Post
                  I am facing absolutely Similar issues.. And truth be told, this is the only issue that I Have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Along with the minor false neutral problem, for which I have adjusted my Style of riding.. )
                  My bike is behaving really weirdly lately.

                  I have given up on the false neutral issue now. The issue had aggravated so much after 2nd service that I had a feeling like one day in traffic the gear will get stuck and bike wont move and some one from behind will run over me...LOL...Funny thing is, I had a fall on this Sunday due to which the gear changing leaver was bent inwards and so I could not engage 1st gear. Went to svc and the mechanic just straightened it with hand...and Voila...no more false neutrals so far after that...its been 3 days...lets see how long it goes.

                  One more example: I had the issue of idling speed reaching to 2300rpm after engine is heat up. This started immediately after 2nd service as the mechanic changed carb settings. Went back to SVC, he merely turned idling screw. Next day again the issue came. I tried adjusting idling speed myself. But if i reduce hot idling to 1700rpm, i would have trouble in cold start. So I reset it to 2300. In a day or two this problem vanished. For two weeks It was not there. Then suddenly I noticed this monday that all the coolant is vanished, god knows when. I went to SVC got it topped up (no visible leakage, will keep looking for level for few day to figure out the issue). And immediately I again had this issue of idling speed of 2300 rpm as soon as I got the coolant filled again. I was like WTF. Now I have brought it down using idling screw but it gives problem for idling till engine reaches its operating temperature.
                  Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--
                  I took the one less traveled by,
                  And that has made all the difference...


                  --Robert Frost

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                  • Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post
                    My bike is behaving really weirdly lately.

                    I have given up on the false neutral issue now. The issue had aggravated so much after 2nd service that I had a feeling like one day in traffic the gear will get stuck and bike wont move and some one from behind will run over me...LOL...Funny thing is, I had a fall on this Sunday due to which the gear changing leaver was bent inwards and so I could not engage 1st gear. Went to svc and the mechanic just straightened it with hand...and Voila...no more false neutrals so far after that...its been 3 days...lets see how long it goes.

                    One more example: I had the issue of idling speed reaching to 2300rpm after engine is heat up. This started immediately after 2nd service as the mechanic changed carb settings. Went back to SVC, he merely turned idling screw. Next day again the issue came. I tried adjusting idling speed myself. But if i reduce hot idling to 1700rpm, i would have trouble in cold start. So I reset it to 2300. In a day or two this problem vanished. For two weeks It was not there. Then suddenly I noticed this monday that all the coolant is vanished, god knows when. I went to SVC got it topped up (no visible leakage, will keep looking for level for few day to figure out the issue). And immediately I again had this issue of idling speed of 2300 rpm as soon as I got the coolant filled again. I was like WTF. Now I have brought it down using idling screw but it gives problem for idling till engine reaches its operating temperature.
                    Nilesh bhau.. I might come to Pune on saturday evening / Sunday morning. Give me your bike for a few hours.. I will properly figure out what all is wrong.
                    Last edited by antz.bin; 01-23-2013, 06:40 PM.
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                    • Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post
                      My bike is behaving really weirdly lately.
                      I kind of have same feeling for my bike As well.. Sometimes she behaves superbly, while sometimes I doubt whether i did a wise thing investing on this bike!!!!!!

                      Really really weird..

                      Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post
                      I have given up on the false neutral issue now. The issue had aggravated so much after 2nd service that I had a feeling like one day in traffic the gear will get stuck and bike wont move and some one from behind will run over me...LOL...Funny thing is, I had a fall on this Sunday due to which the gear changing leaver was bent inwards and so I could not engage 1st gear. Went to svc and the mechanic just straightened it with hand...and Voila...no more false neutrals so far after that...its been 3 days...lets see how long it goes.
                      Nice way to get your problem solved.. I gues it's better for me NOT to try this method..

                      Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post
                      One more example: I had the issue of idling speed reaching to 2300rpm after engine is heat up. This started immediately after 2nd service as the mechanic changed carb settings. Went back to SVC, he merely turned idling screw. Next day again the issue came. I tried adjusting idling speed myself. But if i reduce hot idling to 1700rpm, i would have trouble in cold start. So I reset it to 2300. In a day or two this problem vanished. For two weeks It was not there. Then suddenly I noticed this monday that all the coolant is vanished, god knows when. I went to SVC got it topped up (no visible leakage, will keep looking for level for few day to figure out the issue). And immediately I again had this issue of idling speed of 2300 rpm as soon as I got the coolant filled again. I was like WTF. Now I have brought it down using idling screw but it gives problem for idling till engine reaches its operating temperature.
                      I too had this rising of IDLE to 3K after a hard ride a few days ago.. If it happens again, pls do notice this - Say the IDLE has risen up. Now slot into 1st gear, and without using the Accelerator, leave the clutch slowly. You will see the Idle will come down!!

                      Also my bike is one of the few where generally the idle stays the Same whether Engine Is hot or Cold!!!! I Adjusted it back to 1.5K then and now it's all normal again!!! Also thank God, i am yet to face any coolant issue!!

                      Anyways, If u meet up with Antz And IFFFFFFF he is Able to solve out /find the reason for the mad vibrations, then pls do share!!
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                      • Originally posted by sambit View Post
                        Well, Have been using the bike since 3.5 yrs(Its the longest duration, I have owned a bike ). Thats why, looking for a change. Its not mandatory. My budget is around 1.2 lacs(any thing above, I will have to go for finance option). R15 is perfect in that budget, but for that sorry Pillion seat. I am compromising only for the pillion. ZMR aint really of my liking. Hence only thing left is P200NS.
                        About the P3XX, well, I always avoid the first lot, hence I will have to wait for atleast 1 more year. Better get a 200 and upgrade it after 2 yrs, to higher.
                        But two changes, i ll need to do on the P200- Change the handel bar position to sporty one(RTR type). and change the console light to blue.
                        I guess, performance wise, it might not be a big upgrade, But just for the sake of getting a new bike.
                        What say??
                        I won't suggest you R15 for sure, over RTR180.
                        But If you really get a NS200 then surely there is some power change that you can feel on highway with a liquid cool engine and handling, but need to change the tyres for sure.

                        And I think if you really have a 1.2L budget and something over would ask you to go for finance then It's better you go for Duke200. It would be a nice bike with different set of features/power/speed/handling etc.. You would hardly take a loan of 40k over 1.2L budget. which can be ruled off with in a year without any load on you.

                        So I think you should go for Duke 200.

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                        • Originally posted by Just_Chandu View Post
                          hey where do you find these rubber grommets in bangalore?? every service station i called told me that its not available yet..
                          I'm sorry. I could tell you if I stayed in bangalore

                          Originally posted by surajr.88 View Post
                          Bro any svc's in Mysore have them in stock? I've checked in about 4 svc's and all I get is the question "Rubber wat?" from them .

                          I do agree that Eurogrip Tyre's are mediocre at best but once it's run in, it ain't that bad. mine is at 4.5k and the rear Tyre might have skidded twice or thrice. I guess most of the Tyre's will skid on gravel. But the feeling you get when you are gunning that engine at 7k rpm and above is remarkable. I always have a beaming smile on my face when I shift gears above 7k rpm. Momentarily at least, I feel as if i'm ridding a super bike listening to the exhaust note the engine makes .
                          I have no idea of the availability of those grommet-thingys in mysore; I neither know if they are on my bike! Well there are very very mild vibes on my bike now which I fail to notice most of the times
                          Regarding the tyres, yeah they're inadequate but for my way of usage, they're alright. I won't be attending trackdays anytime soon not that I usually do either

                          Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post
                          My bike is behaving really weirdly lately.

                          I have given up on the false neutral issue now. The issue had aggravated so much after 2nd service that I had a feeling like one day in traffic the gear will get stuck and bike wont move and some one from behind will run over me...LOL...Funny thing is, I had a fall on this Sunday due to which the gear changing leaver was bent inwards and so I could not engage 1st gear. Went to svc and the mechanic just straightened it with hand...and Voila...no more false neutrals so far after that...its been 3 days...lets see how long it goes.
                          I had this issue in the very beginning. The gear lever would simply become free while sudden downshifing. I dunno how but it got solved by itself after the first 1000 kms. I still have the false neutral issue between 1st and 2nd so I have now adjusted myself to it. I shift a bit differently from 1 to 2.

                          One more example: I had the issue of idling speed reaching to 2300rpm after engine is heat up. This started immediately after 2nd service as the mechanic changed carb settings. Went back to SVC, he merely turned idling screw. Next day again the issue came. I tried adjusting idling speed myself. But if i reduce hot idling to 1700rpm, i would have trouble in cold start. So I reset it to 2300. In a day or two this problem vanished. For two weeks It was not there. Then suddenly I noticed this monday that all the coolant is vanished, god knows when. I went to SVC got it topped up (no visible leakage, will keep looking for level for few day to figure out the issue). And immediately I again had this issue of idling speed of 2300 rpm as soon as I got the coolant filled again. I was like WTF. Now I have brought it down using idling screw but it gives problem for idling till engine reaches its operating temperature.
                          I'm really surprised, how does coolant level affect idle rpm? Experts, any comments on this?
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                          Originally posted by Shibadip View Post
                          I kind of have same feeling for my bike As well.. Sometimes she behaves superbly, while sometimes I doubt whether i did a wise thing investing on this bike!!!!!!
                          !
                          @shibadip and @nilesh, I too have experienced weird behavior in my bike. I once rode 40+ kms after tankfull only to notice that the petrol was still at the brim. There was this other time just after 2nd service when the accelerator cable would get pulled when the handle was turned to the right completely but somehow that got solved all by itself. There was irritating tappet noisee from 0 to 4.5k kms on the odo but now that's gone away too! Really weird. I haven't done any mods on the bike and I haven't touched any of the settings since the past 4000 kms.

                          @all, I suddenly find the front sprocket making a characteristic tak tak tak sound while it rotates. I opened the sprocket cover, ran the engine on the centre stand and noticed that the sound comes when the chain gets separated from one particular tooth on the sprocket. After much inspection, I still couldn't find any difference between that and the other teeth. Neither is the sprocket visibly damaged (or is it?) The chain-sprocket set is the stock one and has run for 5400 kms now. I carry out regular chain maintenance and yet what's wrong?
                          Last edited by Aditya N Bharadwaj; 01-23-2013, 08:08 PM.
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                          • Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
                            @all, I suddenly find the front sprocket making a characteristic tak tak tak sound while it rotates. I opened the sprocket cover, ran the engine on the centre stand and noticed that the sound comes when the chain gets separated from one particular tooth on the sprocket. After much inspection, I still couldn't find any difference between that and the other teeth. Neither is the sprocket visibly damaged (or is it?) The chain-sprocket set is the stock one and has run for 5400 kms now. I carry out regular chain maintenance and yet what's wrong?
                            If that particular teeth is not damaged, then check if the slider on which the Sprocket rotates, has any damages/foreign object on that particular Area.. .
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                            • Originally posted by sambit View Post
                              I guess, performance wise, it might not be a big upgrade, But just for the sake of getting a new bike.
                              What say??
                              sporty handle bars will spoil the ergonomics for sure.

                              performance wise the upgrade will be significant if you take in to account the overall feel that comes with ns,let alone the high revving liquid cooled 200 cc mill that shows its true colout at 7000 rpm or the awesome brakes or the refinement[big upgrade when compared to rtr].
                              and the question remains why do i race?
                              every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                              #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                              #overkill is underrated.
                              #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                              #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                              (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                              • my pulsar 200ns does 60 kmph @ 4.3 k is that correct firstly it done 4k after second service it claim to have 60 kmph @ 4.3 running in rich mixture planning to change from motul 3000 to 5100 15w 50 is that good for the engine

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