Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Thanks mate, it was really helpful

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Re: Pulsar 200 NS

I dont think that is centrifugal.

Centrifugal as per my knowledge is located on the right side along with the clutch plates under the clutch plate cover.

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regarding Bajaj DTSi oil, i recently completed my third service and changed from Motul 5100 to the Bajaj oil. I was earlier planning to shift to 7100 but due to budget constraints and due to the fact that i will be going on leave for almost 20 days i decided to go for the bajaj oil.

I was also suffering from a slight loss in pickup and acceleration due to the rear disc plate rubbing against the brake pads which was infact due to the improper alignment created while adjusting the chain at the bajaj SVC during second service. This problem is now rectified.

The difference after the service and shifting to Bajaj oil is that i feel increase in pickup and acceleration and gear shifts are smooth as usual. Now this could be because the rear disc is not rubbing any more with pads, the clutch has been readjusted, the oil changed and chain tension adjusted.

At the moment just enjoying the ride and if it continues to remain like this till the next 1000 kms i would like to extend the next oil change by another 500 or 1000 kms. Lets see.

I also got to know from the SVC that they stock 3 different types of oil. Mineral (costs around Rs.532), Synthetic - Bajaj oil (costs - Rs.780) and Motul 7100 FS (costs - Rs.1500)

Next time i will shift to Motul 7100 FS

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

No Suggestions or Replies ???

How is khivraj motor's in Indiranagar, is it any good or would you recommend Popular Motor Corp ??

Waiting for responses..

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Centrifufal filter engiens don't have separate oil filters as such. They are used in Pulsar 150 to 220. In the 200Ns you have the oil filter on the right side of the engine, so you don't have the hassle of removing the clutch over, then clean the centri filter and then put it back on and this type of filter in 200 NS is cheap and easily available.

That being said, the white filter thingy in the drain bolt is called strainer. It doesn't need to be changed everytime one services the bike, it can just be cleaned with little kerosene let it dry and put back on. Unless it's severely clogged (very rare) then you can change the strainer.

Cheers!
VJ

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AFAIK i guess the 200NS has a centrifugal filter eventhough it uses oil filter....

it does feel strange why keep a centrifugal filter with all such hassles when bajaj could have provided oil filters in their bike? isnt it simpler to manufacture as well as service?

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Why do you need a centrifugal filter and an oil filter, when the oil filter can do the job effectively as much as a centrifugal filter and add weight to the engine? Tell me, have you ever seen a centrifugal filter before?

That's the main reason as I've quoted back, it's easy, cheap and anyone can replace it without any hassles and is less time consuming.

Cheers!
VJ

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Has anyone tried fitting one of these? Well, I have and and am facing a problem. This levers fit perfectly but the front brakes engages on its own after i ride the bike for a while. Initially everything is cold and good but after riding for a while the front brake locks the wheel and i did have a nasty fall too. When i tried touching disc it was very very hot and so was the caliper covers (portion where BYBRE is written). the brake doesn't lock instantly, its kinda gradual but assume the wheel locks within a distance of 20m(@30kmph and of course decreasing), starting from the position from where i can feel it engaging. My bike has run 6000Kms and is 7 months old. And at 1st service they topped up the brake fluid.
Now ,What could be the problem? Well i changed to the stock lever and there is no problem. I have spent Rs.3K on this CNC racing lever and can't get a refund. what can i do to make the lever work? once again, the fit is perfect and also,the seller claimed it is for 200NS and Duke200.

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Does new lot of 200NS still comes with eurogrip(tvs tires)? Didn't check the thread for a long time.

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Did you change the brake hoses as well? The stock brake hoses may not be working in tandem with the levers and may have been automatically engaging. Also,take the bike to the svc and make sure that the levers are actually compatible. If you hadn't brought up the aftermarket levers part,I'd have considered it a case where the front disk has warped or is not aligned properly leading to the brake calipers rubbing constantly against it.

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

I am not sure exactly what filter type is used on 200NS . But centrifugal filters are not inferior in anyway to media-type oil filters , other than in ease of service .

Centrifugal filters do not hamper oil-flow and does not depend of particle size to work and has much greater dirt-load capacity than media filters . Media filters sit the path of the oil flow has to hamper the flow somewhat . If the media pores are made larger to allow more flow , filtration suffers , and vice versa . So by design the smallest pores that can be manufactured that allows just enough oil-flow , shall allow any particles smaller to pass ( i.e incomplete filtration even when new ) . As the filter media gets loaded up with dirt on it's surface , it clogs up and becomes progressively ineffcient . So much so that they have to provide a bypass mechanism so that upon complete clogging , oil can bypass the filter media and the engine may not die starved of oil . But then you have no filtration at all (upon the bypass) .

Replaceable filters vary in quality , an it's not unusual to find a defective one in the market (like any other mass produced stuff) , one that has ruptured media etc . Check carefully before fitting a newly bought oil/air filter . Filter media ( paper ) can rupture in use too , immediately releasing all the captured dirt and possibly pieces of the paper itself into the oil . Centrifugal filter compacts the dirt captured and is impossible to release it without intervention .

Centrifugal filter arrests anything heavier than the oil , by centrifugal action . It does not depend on particle size . Both microscopic and larger dirt shall be caught if it's heavier than oil , which is just about everything ( near complete filtration is achieved ). Centrifugal filters does not hamper oil flow any way and does not even reduce oil flow as it gets loaded up with dirt .

When fully loaded to capacity , it shall stop the oil flow at all . That may cause engine death from no oil then , but since centrifugal filters have a very large cavity for storing the captured dirt ( relative to small media filters ) it doesn't happen even upon many years of neglect . It's also cheaper as it has no repalceable parts , just requires cleaning , that too after years n years use , if ever . If proper oil change intervals are maintained strictly , I daresay it is difficult for the centrifugal filter to become completely loaded in the lifetime of the motor .

If they have chosen this type of oil filter , I am sure Bajaj have done so after due consideration .

Also as some have asked , The oil strainers are cleanble and reuasable , but you can replace the oil strainer too if you wish . It's usually quite very cheap .

Immediatley revert to your OE set and have the brake system checked from ASC too . Brakes are not something you should be playing ifs-n-buts with aftermarket appearance parts . It can void your warranty and insurance too , other than being illegal .

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P200NS oil filter it cost me 74 RS...

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no i didn't change the hose. and i'm not able to find much info on such problem in the internet so ur reply is much appreciated.

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Well i am using the stock right now and the nearest SVC is about 80kms from my place so was hoping for a quickfix from friends in Xbhp. But it seem you are right about not to be fiddling too much with braking system. I guess i'll have to do the distance to the SVC bt i am pretty sure they won't bother much and ask me to stick to the stock levers. So more or less, i am assuming my 3k is down the drain

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any technicians or experts out there please help me!!!!
My pulsar 200ns handle bar tilts to right when riding i.e, when standing I feel the pressure evenly distributed to both hands but when riding the handle moves to right and continues to remain so.
It affects the riding issues also such as turning towards left is a bit worrying as you feel that the bike will skid or fall down.
my handle bar gaps are also not same . My left side handle bar has more gap than right side gap towards the tank.
the same goes while riding.
please anybody with any kind of knowledge help me about this..
I have went to bajaj nearly 100-150 times and contacted MD of my bike showroom and changed both tyres and front fork set...but the problem still persists
they have welded some thing in the stopper also??? to make the gaps nearly equal...
I cannot sleep properly due to this problem as this haunts me daily
my bike has done 8k odd kms and have nearly stood in service for 5-6 months of 7months of purchase...
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Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Did you compare your bike with other bikes and checked freeplay clearance? I think you can shoot a mail to Bajaj. I think this could be a defective overlook from Bajaj's side.

Did you have a crash of some sort? Did you notice it just now on your 8k journey or was this issue right from the day of purchase.

Cheers!
VJ

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Re: Pulsar 200 NS

no bro thats the problem!!
I have shooted three emails threatening to go to consumer court if nothing is done...
I have forced svc guys to change the front fork assembly and tyres on both...
about the free play the bike goes straight when handle is left free... but you can feel that bike is leaning towards right
and you have to pull your bike towards left...to make your riding correct.
the gap difference I have mentioned is nowhere to be seen in other 200ns es
I also asked service guys to check the chassis ..but they say that there is no chance of fault in chassis...
please please help me from this fiasco......
another thing is that my engine was like outbursted from svc guys continuous riding and experimenting...