Announcement

**2strokerama** · 04-02-2012, 03:46 PM

@ANyone who has run over 10000km: How is your clutch doing?

Mine seems to be slipping a lot.

+ I have to accelerate a lot in 1st gear for the clutch to actuate and get me moving. That too, the clutch comes into effect only when Ive almost let go of the lever....i.e at the top of lever action. I've doen a lot of clutch cable adjustments to no avail.

Is mine an isolated case?

**MSN1** · 04-02-2012, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post

@ANyone who has run over 10000km: How is your clutch doing?

Mine seems to be slipping a lot.

+ I have to accelerate a lot in 1st gear for the clutch to actuate and get me moving. That too, the clutch comes into effect only when Ive almost let go of the lever....i.e at the top of lever action. I've doen a lot of clutch cable adjustments to no avail.

Is mine an isolated case?

my GS is 13k old and i don't faced the issue you are facing now

but your issue seems to be generic issue applicable to many bikes i believe any good local mechanic can fix it

**ashoka_bnglr** · 04-02-2012, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post

@ANyone who has run over 10000km: How is your clutch doing?

Mine seems to be slipping a lot.

+ I have to accelerate a lot in 1st gear for the clutch to actuate and get me moving. That too, the clutch comes into effect only when Ive almost let go of the lever....i.e at the top of lever action. I've doen a lot of clutch cable adjustments to no avail.

Is mine an isolated case?

To be honest I cannot tell whether I have this clutch slip in my bike or not.
But a quick google showed a simple technique like
"Start your engine. Put your foot firmly on the rear brake. Put the tranny in second gear, give it gas let out the clutch slowly. A healthy clutch will stall the engine. A weak clutch won't."
I will try this out today and let you know.
BTW my GS is 12.5k kms old..

A small mileage update from me:
R-R method followed{1000 rs petrol(72.9rs/ltr) filled as soon the bike came to reserve}
1st attempt:
Distance traveled: 664kms = 48.4kmpl

- Riding involved very sedate acceleration with max speed limited to not more than 70kmph

2nd attempt:
Distance traveled: 614kms = 44.7kmpl

- Riding involved hard acceleration with max speed ranging from 75-100.

So all in all i prefer the 2nd result and will stick to it

**kripscorp** · 04-02-2012, 10:09 PM

Screwed with DC Conversion.

Friends,

Today done the full DC conversion of my gs. But it screwed.

After 6 hrs of coil rewinding, fitted the ape rr and the new coil. finally its in vain. its not at all charging.

I checked the stator output. it shows 20v at idle and increases to 75v @ 6000 rpm. but once if i connect the stator output to RR, voltage comes to 1v. no change in voltage with rpm. don't know where its missing.

friends, pls help me out in this issue.

fingers are in ill pain

. i have done a very tight winding. My gs stator is of 8 poles. The original winding count was 67 per pole. (i counted for only one). I re-winded every pole with 55 to 57 turns of 18 swg wire.

pfa pics...

**gmagesh14** · 04-02-2012, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by kripscorp View Post

Friends,

Today done the full DC conversion of my gs. But it screwed.

After 6 hrs of coil rewinding, fitted the ape rr and the new coil. finally its in vain. its not at all charging.

I checked the stator output. it shows 20v at idle and increases to 75v @ 6000 rpm. but once if i connect the stator output to RR, voltage comes to 1v. no change in voltage with rpm. don't know where its missing.

friends, pls help me out in this issue.

fingers are in ill pain

. i have done a very tight winding. My gs stator is of 8 poles. The original winding count was 67 per pole. (i counted for only one). I re-winded every pole with 55 to 57 turns of 18 swg wire.

Dont worry., your hardwork will not go in vain and we wont let you so..
Since youre getting some ac volt out of stator coil, it means your stator part is done Ok(assuming neither end of coil is not grounded)., If you want to check the output of APE RR, then you've to connect it to Battery .. Then only APE RR will work..

Did you connected it to battery?

**kripscorp** · 04-02-2012, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by gmagesh14 View Post

Dont worry., your hardwork will not go in vain and we wont let you so..
Since youre getting some ac volt out of stator coil, it means your stator part is done Ok(assuming neither end of coil is not grounded)., If you want to check the output of APE RR, then you've to connect it to Battery .. Then only APE RR will work..

Did you connected it to battery?

Friend, I'm checking the AC volt from stator with multimeter.
if i didnt connect with rr, output comes to 75 volts.
after connecting to rr, AC output comes to 1 volt.

**kripscorp** · 04-03-2012, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by gmagesh14 View Post

Dont worry., your hardwork will not go in vain and we wont let you so..
Since youre getting some ac volt out of stator coil, it means your stator part is done Ok(assuming neither end of coil is not grounded)., If you want to check the output of APE RR, then you've to connect it to Battery .. Then only APE RR will work..

Did you connected it to battery?

ya, connected to battery also. no output. i have an ammeter fitted in bike. and no deflection in ammeter too...

something is in miss. I doubt RR failed.

**2strokerama** · 04-03-2012, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by MSN1 View Post

my GS is 13k old and i don't faced the issue you are facing now

but your issue seems to be generic issue applicable to many bikes i believe any good local mechanic can fix it

Thanks but I dont want to go to any local mechanic unless I absolutely have no other choice.....trust is a rare thing in business, atleast by my experience.

Originally posted by ashoka_bnglr View Post

To be honest I cannot tell whether I have this clutch slip in my bike or not.
But a quick google showed a simple technique like
"Start your engine. Put your foot firmly on the rear brake. Put the tranny in second gear, give it gas let out the clutch slowly. A healthy clutch will stall the engine. A weak clutch won't."
I will try this out today and let you know.
BTW my GS is 12.5k kms old..

Ive tried something like that and some other indicator tests. Mine is partially behaving like that......i.e clutch does nothing until I almost fully release the lever, whereupon the rpms drop slowly and the engine stops.

I remember when the bike used to behave like a lusty horse if I held in the clutch even a bit while standing still. Now the horse is suffering from er3ctil3 dysfunction.

I also feel that I have to give a some more throttle than before to get the biek upto a particular rpm.

All seems to be signs of a bad clutch. And the worst thing is: I use the clutch only minimally, yet all this seemingly premature wear.

2nd attempt:
Distance traveled: 614kms = 44.7kmpl

- Riding involved hard acceleration with max speed ranging from 75-100.

Lucky man that you get as much mileage riding like that. Im in the mid to bottom 30s if i start ripping.

---------------------------------

@all: No one else with clutch issues?

**gmagesh14** · 04-03-2012, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by kripscorp View Post

ya, connected to battery also. no output. i have an ammeter fitted in bike. and no deflection in ammeter too...

And one again can you verify that coil is wounded in alternate directions to previous pole..

Apart from the ammeters deflection., did you tried checking the ohms b/w the stator coil ends and also continuity of them with bike's body to crosscheck that none of them gets grounded..

And one more doubt is that at the place where you soldered the coil to the stator plate, did you etched the coils insualtion? (Because soldering a insulated wire will not make continuity to the point you've soldered)..

These are some basic trouble shooting steps to verify initially., Please ignore if you've already tested these and let us know to help you further..

Originally posted by kripscorp View Post

something is in miss. I doubt RR failed.

You can doubt it.,but dont conclude before testing it fully/properly...

**SparKot** · 04-03-2012, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post

@all: No one else with clutch issues?

I've a query related to shifting gears up:
at times when I open throttle in 1st gear for quick acceleration and try to shift up to 2nd gear, I hear a hammering sound THUDddd .... Scaryyyy

I remind myself not do that again.

what was I doing wrong?

**ROCKRZ** · 04-03-2012, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post

Thanks but I dont want to go to any local mechanic unless I absolutely have no other choice.....trust is a rare thing in business, atleast by my experience.

Ive tried something like that and some other indicator tests. Mine is partially behaving like that......i.e clutch does nothing until I almost fully release the lever, whereupon the rpms drop slowly and the engine stops.

I remember when the bike used to behave like a lusty horse if I held in the clutch even a bit while standing still. Now the horse is suffering from er3ctil3 dysfunction.

I also feel that I have to give a some more throttle than before to get the biek upto a particular rpm.

All seems to be signs of a bad clutch. And the worst thing is: I use the clutch only minimally, yet all this seemingly premature wear.

Lucky man that you get as much mileage riding like that. Im in the mid to bottom 30s if i start ripping.

---------------------------------

@all: No one else with clutch issues?

Are you sure you have not set the clutch too tight...

How many kilometers has the bike completed

**vikhyath** · 04-03-2012, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

I've a query related to shifting gears up:
at times when I open throttle in 1st gear for quick acceleration and try to shift up to 2nd gear, I hear a hammering sound THUDddd .... Scaryyyy

I remind myself not do that again.

what was I doing wrong?

I hear something similar when I close the throttle completely and then give it a good twist. This happens mostly when Engine braking(For me).

**kripscorp** · 04-03-2012, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by gmagesh14 View Post

And one again can you verify that coil is wounded in alternate directions to previous pole..
Ya, i'm very sure that its wounded in alternate fashion.

Apart from the ammeters deflection., did you tried checking the ohms b/w the stator coil ends and also continuity of them with bike's body to crosscheck that none of them gets grounded..
i checked the Ohms between the coil. It came to 005. But I didnt check the ground connectivity.

And one more doubt is that at the place where you soldered the coil to the stator plate, did you etched the coils insualtion? (Because soldering a insulated wire will not make continuity to the point you've soldered)..
ya. this also i'm sure. I have taken out the insulation before solder.

These are some basic trouble shooting steps to verify initially., Please ignore if you've already tested these and let us know to help you further..
One more thing is, I'm getting stator output of about 75 volts at 6k rpm. Is this the correct volt for that rpm ? I checked it from the 2 wires of the coil before connecting to RR.

You can doubt it.,but dont conclude before testing it fully/properly...
I also doubt, that there might be some short circuit in the connectivity.

Anyhow I'll check every thing today.

**Vikshe** · 04-03-2012, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post

@ANyone who has run over 10000km: How is your clutch doing?

Mine seems to be slipping a lot.

+ I have to accelerate a lot in 1st gear for the clutch to actuate and get me moving. That too, the clutch comes into effect only when Ive almost let go of the lever....i.e at the top of lever action. I've doen a lot of clutch cable adjustments to no avail.

Is mine an isolated case?

Its not related to clutch plates wear alone, check clutch engage tension , i had experience with my old Bajaj boxer 100cc, were i had to fully release the clutch to engage engine to transmision. In oxer its different mechanism where you clutch totally disengages transmission after clutch dipressed , you cannot kick start . you can feel the clutch wear once starting releasing the lever slowly. This is not the case with GS , you can actually kicks start with clutch depressed.
, also see for clutch free play , you must have tightened to extent , if not
I suggest to check out with SC , some parts may need replacement.

**kripscorp** · 04-03-2012, 11:14 AM

APE RR not working

Originally posted by kripscorp View Post

Anyhow I'll check every thing today.

checked everything.

The stator output comes to 14volt at 1000 rpm itself.
and 75volts at 5000 rpm.
Ohms between stator terminals comes to 010.

Suspected Ape rr and replaced it with stock rr. now everything works like a charm. Bike ammeter showed a good deflection around 8 amps at 4000 rpm. Actually, battery was almost empty and self started didnt put up.

I dont know the APE RR can be replaced or not., as I have cut the wire terminals.

Announcement

Suzuki GS150R

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment