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Originally posted by gkamal1 View PostI am also facing the same problem( sound from front disc and hard gears) , mine is around 10,000 kms now regular service in ABT chennai, after several services i dont see any improvement, even i was plannning to replace resale price is also very less, i felt more sorry for making an wrong decision im an fan of suzuki i rode suzuki fiero for almost 10 years. so bought GS 150R and now worried.
please suggest some ideas to overcome this problem , anyone have information how to inform suzuki about this issue aswell
Thanks.
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I am doubtful about the excess valve clearance because that sound was heard from the first day purchasing the bike. Consulting the SC before trying to adjust it is better as tappet adjusting and AFR screw turning repeatedly or endlessly is taken as hobby by many bike owners, expecting an illogical increase in power output. Most of them do not know what they are doing or for what they are doing it. It is the same nonsense claim as some brands of oil, especially the grade not recommended by bike’s manufacturer, enables it to move at mach speed!Originally posted by dip097 View PostAntony, adjusting tappet clearance is not a major work.
The clearance I mentioned is from the service manual of GS itself.
Originally posted by nikhil.krishnan View PostGot call from SVC telling my Bike is ready . They said total amount is 508/- rs .
That amount seems to be too much as they are not replacing anything other than engine oil and, perhaps, oil filter. The total cost of these cannot be more than Rs. 300/-.
It is normal; I guess. Anyway, you need not be worried about the consequences of opening the engine as it does not affect the mileage or engine condition of the bike.Originally posted by Manoj.B View PostWhen i checked with service station they are suspecting something problem with the engine and they want to open it to check for the real problem..
i am worried about mileage once the engine is opened and also the engine condition
If so the dust or tiny sand trapped between the rotor and pads is making that sound. Just ignore it as you cannot get rid of it and it does not jam the brake.Originally posted by gkamal1 View Postwhen compressor air is blowed in the frontdisc the problem is getting solved and in a weeks time again im noticing the same creek noise
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Manoj, As your bike is 18,000 KM clocked, the clutch plates and clutch bearings might have worn out and need to be replaced. To do so the side cover of the engine should be opened and not the entire engine. This type of maintenance is compulsory for all bikes. Ask the SVC guys specifically about the repair they are referring to. If it is about clutch and clutch bearing, if won't affect your mileage unless they adjust the carburetor after repair.Originally posted by Manoj.B View PostHi Guys,
I am having 2010 model which clocked 18k kilometers, My driving style is not that rash. Now-a-days i started noticing engine noise when the bike is in neutral, when i use the clutch the noise seems to be reduced and in gear there is almost no noise...
When i checked with service station they are suspecting something problem with the engine and they want to open it to check for the real problem..
What do you guys suggest? is it ok to open engine and check? i am worried about mileage once the engine is opened and also the engine condition.
Thanks in advance.
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hello guys,
i am getting a new bike and am considering the idea of getting this bike but i have no clue of the price,its website shows almost 80k for my region Karnataka,is it true?
even the more powerful Apache 180 cost 74k,any help would be appreciatedLast edited by hage bhai; 03-30-2013, 02:17 AM.Agar aap Jaag Rahe hai to So Jaiye kyonki raat ke sannate ko chirti aa rahi hai SANSANI...star news par har raat aath baje
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GS 150R PROBLEMS -- owner's feedback & technical guidance required
Hi all,
I bought a Suzuki GS 150R recently and am very unhappy with the but.
Reason: A lot of problems within the first 20 days.
Below is a list of the problems I am facing with the bike in the order of severity. I would like to take feedback from past and present owners of this model to understand whether they faced any such issues and what was the resolution provided.
- Front wheel wobbling (jumps at slow speeds and visibly wobbles at speeds of 45 - 50 kmph
- Rear wheel heats up. With even a 10 or 15 km drive, the rear alloy wheels and the rim becomes piping hot. I am worried about tyre damage due to this.
- Engine vibration. When I shut off throttle, the engine dies down with a grrrrrr.... noise and vibration.
- Gear shift is very hard. I have complained twice about this in 400 kms.
Apart from these, I had other problems which are now resolved and they are
- Rear brake knocking sound (tak tak noise) which was resolved by replacing the rear brake plate.
- Air block in the fuel line. Vehicle stops once in 10 kms and I have to open the fuel tank cap to release air to start the vehicle again. Resolved itself mysteriously.
- ORVMs were only showing my arms. Got Suzuki dealership to replace them with a mirror with slightly wider ORVMs.
Owners please confirm if anyone has faced similar issues and how they have got a resolution on these. I am worried about points 1 & 2 in the issue list.Regards,
Venky
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Originally posted by venkan12 View PostHi all,
I bought a Suzuki GS 150R recently and am very unhappy with the but.
if anyone has faced similar issues and how they have got a resolution on these. I am worried about points 1 & 2 in the issue list.
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Owners would help better, but I'd suggest you to get both tires checked for manufacturing defects. Wobbling can be caused by deformed tires. 400 kms is brand new! Get it replaced if its faulty.Originally posted by venkan12 View Post- Front wheel wobbling (jumps at slow speeds and visibly wobbles at speeds of 45 - 50 kmph
- Rear wheel heats up. With even a 10 or 15 km drive, the rear alloy wheels and the rim becomes piping hot. I am worried about tyre damage due to this.
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1. Either the tyre is faulty or its fitting on the rim is not proper. First of all remove the tyre from the rim and refit it correctly and see the result. If the tyre is faulty, demand a free replacement.Originally posted by venkan12 View PostA lot of problems within the first 20 days. Below is a list of the problems I am facing with the bike in the order of severity.
2. Heating of rear rim and wheel while riding is common. You need not be worried about tyre damage due to it. Maestro (Tanmay Patil ) has gone 1600 kms within 24 hours on GS. You can read about the tours of another friend animeher here and here
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Thanks Sharan and Punarvasu for the quick feedback. Much appreciated.
I thought that the tyre would not have been fitted correctly and hence I requested the SC to check it thoroughly. They are least bothered and are in complete denial mode. They take a testride (in fact, 100km out of the 400 has been test rides by the SC mechanics only) and they come back to say all is well with the bike whereas I find the jumping and the wobbling to be very obvious.
I was alarmed at the number of faults on a new bike and asked for a replacement or refund. I like the bike but what I am worried about is the callousness of the SC guys. Currently the matter is escalated to Mr. Deepak Saxena who seems to be the South Zonal head for Service in Suzuki however he can't be around whenever I have to go for a service once in 2 months.
@Punarvasu,
the engine idling has been reset during my last visit to the SC and I still get the vibrating noise and a rattle/ grunt when I cross 5000 rpm. Is this normal in the other bikes too.
Also, the mirror was uncomfortable even after adjustment coz the mirror arm was very short and I had a huge blind spot to the extent of about 60 degree andle behind me. Hence it has now been replaced and this is more convenient where I am able to see what exactly is behind me.
I understand from you that heating of the rims is common however that does not seem to be the case with bikes of other models or manufactureres. Not sure why Suzuki has never looked to build on customer feedback.
In all, I like the bike very much but worried on the service aspect and the number of problems faced so far. Mr. Deepak Saxena would be personally visiting Bangalore in a week's time and has agreed to inspect the bike personally. I shall update on the proceedings.
Please feel free to share more feedback.
Regards,
Venky
PS: I had a TVS Star City for 7 years and ran the bike for 40K kms, never had a single problem with the bike and I had one service engineer service the bike always. He was the highest member in heirarchy that I knew in TVS. I repent having sold it for this bike. I am missing the quality and service of TVS.Regards,
Venky
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Got my GS after servicing. Everything is well and fine. Gears has become really smooth, the chik chik sound from disk has gone and overall, i feel more smoothness while driving the bike. Happy with the service they provided to the bike.Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
That amount seems to be too much as they are not replacing anything other than engine oil and, perhaps, oil filter. The total cost of these cannot be more than Rs. 300/-.
I asked them why the total amount is 510 and this is what they showed me in the service receipt,
Engine Oil : 240
Oil Filter : 55
Consumables : 55
Polishing : 55
Synthetic Addictive : 100
I asked for the Bill, But they said its bill they will send to my email ID, since they have some problems with the printing.
So I paid the money and collected my Bike. But till now they havent send the bill to me. I called them now multiple times and they keep on telling will send in another 30 min's time.
Few more problems with the SC Guys,
i. When asked which grade oil they used, they said 10W30. But they corrected it to 20W40 when i asked them isnt it 20W40 suzuki suggests !!! Donno which one they used.
ii. When i asked them why an addictive is used, they just didnt had any proper answer. ( But why is it used actuallly ???
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iii. My front brake handle play has increased and also, i feel the brake to be slighltly loose than earlier. But they just said it will come like this only and said its not possible to tighten it. ( Now i feel only like a normal drum brake,, not that Disk effect !!

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Anyway, after the service, my bike is really calm and smooth.. (except for the loose front brake)
I love it even more now
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Suzuki has increased the price for GS in 2013 without considerable changes in the Bike except for the designs. When i bought it in December last year, its price was 77K and they gave me a cash discount of 1500 rs.Originally posted by hage bhai View Posthello guys,
i am getting a new bike and am considering the idea of getting this bike but i have no clue of the price,its website shows almost 80k for my region Karnataka,is it true?
even the more powerful Apache 180 cost 74k,any help would be appreciated
Same way, you might get some cas discount from the showroom, and the price they have mentioned in their site has to be true (why should they put wrong price info ?)
Dear Venky,Originally posted by venkan12 View PostOwners please confirm if anyone has faced similar issues and how they have got a resolution on these. I am worried about points 1 & 2 in the issue list.
I own a GS from past four months and I have faced only very few (may be one , two or three) problems so far (loose chain, Sound from Disk etc). And all these have been resolved by the SVC guys. From your list of issues, the only one i had is hard gear shift and this is 90% resolved after 2nd service.
As the senior owners suggest, ask for a replacement if you have multiple issues even before one month of purchasing. Also write your complaint in suzuki website.
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The approximate price of 20W-40 oil is Rs. 250/- and of 10W-30 is Rs. 220/-. The price of oil filter is Rs. 42.71 plus 14.5% VAT. So, the total amount comes to be Rs. 300/- if the recommended 20W-40 oil is used. Otherwise it is about Rs.270/-. Hence you lost 210-240 rupees here.Originally posted by nikhil.krishnan View PostI asked for the Bill, But they said its bill they will send to my email ID, since they have some problems with the printing.
So I paid the money and collected my Bike. But till now they havent send the bill to me.
The SC has no right to add any oil additive in the engine oil. Suzuki or any other vehicle manufacturer is not recommending it.
I am doubtful about the grade of the oil they filled in your bike’s engine. 10W-30 oil is for Suzuki’s Access scooter; not for their bikes.
The blunder you did is paying the amount they demanded without a bill. I have never heard about a SC mailing the bill to the customer.
Try to collect the bill and mail a complaint to Suzuki explaining your experience at the SC. You can do it even if the SC does not give the bill.
Servicing is nothing more than washing and oil changing. They replace the oil filter only if it is available or they remember to change it.
One other harm that mechanic did is allowing air to enter the brake line to get rid of that sound you mentioned from the brake. This is why the brake is not effective now as earlier. When you apply the brake frequently, the air in the brake fluid expands due to heat and the brake becomes ineffective which leads to dangerous situations.
First of all, buy 250 ml of brake fluid of Castrol or Bosch or any other good brand except TVS-Girling and KBX and do a brake bleeding to remove the air in the brake line. Remember that removing the air is not easy as you read on the internet. As you are not a bike racer, DOT 3 fluid is enough if DOT 4 is not available.
Then, replace the oil again with the recommended 20W-40 oil. As it is not sure that the oil filter is already replaced, buy one from the SC and replace it too.
Learn to do very basic maintenance works such as oil and oil filter replacing, cleaning/replacing air filter, lubricating chain and other necessary points, adjusting chain slackness, adjusting rear brake, brake bleeding etc.
Your bike is in good condition without any problem and if you keep it in good, well maintained condition and if you stop suspecting the usual normal sounds from the bike’s engine, brakes etc, you need not be bothered about the warranty and going to this kind of SCs for servicing for the sake of warranty is meaningless. Think about it.
Never go to that SC again for servicing or repairing. That mechanic who let air in the brake line will kill you.
Why? His bike is in excellent condition.Originally posted by nikhil.krishnan View Postask for a replacement if you have multiple issues.
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This fake billing is not limited to this one suzuki service center. Even i have such bills from suzuki service. They are handwritten bills and do not give a breakup of the amount. They refuse to give printed bills.Originally posted by punarvasu View PostThe approximate price of 20W-40 oil is Rs. 250/- and of 10W-30 is Rs. 220/-. The price of oil filter is Rs. 42.71 plus 14.5% VAT. So, the total amount comes to be Rs. 300/- if the recommended 20W-40 oil is used. Otherwise it is about Rs.270/-. Hence you lost 210-240 rupees here.
The SC has no right to add any oil additive in the engine oil. Suzuki or any other vehicle manufacturer is not recommending it.
I am doubtful about the grade of the oil they filled in your bike’s engine. 10W-30 oil is for Suzuki’s Access scooter; not for their bikes.
The blunder you did is paying the amount they demanded without a bill. I have never heard about a SC mailing the bill to the customer.
Try to collect the bill and mail a complaint to Suzuki explaining your experience at the SC. You can do it even if the SC does not give the bill.
Servicing is nothing more than washing and oil changing. They replace the oil filter only if it is available or they remember to change it.
One other harm that mechanic did is allowing air to enter the brake line to get rid of that sound you mentioned from the brake. This is why the brake is not effective now as earlier. When you apply the brake frequently, the air in the brake fluid expands due to heat and the brake becomes ineffective which leads to dangerous situations.
First of all, buy 250 ml of brake fluid of Castrol or Bosch or any other good brand except TVS-Girling and KBX and do a brake bleeding to remove the air in the brake line. Remember that removing the air is not easy as you read on the internet. As you are not a bike racer, DOT 3 fluid is enough if DOT 4 is not available.
Then, replace the oil again with the recommended 20W-40 oil. As it is not sure that the oil filter is already replaced, buy one from the SC and replace it too.
Learn to do very basic maintenance works such as oil and oil filter replacing, cleaning/replacing air filter, lubricating chain and other necessary points, adjusting chain slackness, adjusting rear brake, brake bleeding etc.
Your bike is in good condition without any problem and if you keep it in good, well maintained condition and if you stop suspecting the usual normal sounds from the bike’s engine, brakes etc, you need not be bothered about the warranty and going to this kind of SCs for servicing for the sake of warranty is meaningless. Think about it.
Never go to that SC again for servicing or repairing. That mechanic who let air in the brake line will kill you.
But such things happen with other manufacturers like yamaha and honda also, but their number of compulsory services to maintain warranty is much lesser.
Why do we go to the service center? To address issues we cannot solve ourselves. Some can solve them, but some cant. Others like me can, but do not have the time, tools, or place to do it. Doing repairs ourselves could void the warranty. And, most importantly, to retain warranty, one needs to get all services done at suzuki service.
But that suzuki mechanics do not do even basic things properly like chain adjustment, brake adjustment, brake bleeding, filter change, etc., is a different issue altogether, and one suzuki is incapable of addressing.
Given that each free service costs around Rs.450 and paid service around Rs.700, and we need to get a total of 15 services done to maintain warranty, clearly owning a gs150r is proving to be costlier than owning a big H motorcycle.
Also, friends, my bike suffered from hard gear shifts since day 1. But Aryan suzuki refused to acknowledge the problem for 5 months. Then, later, Value suzuki acknowledged the problem, but they took another 3 months and 3 repairs to solve it. I was lucky as my bike was attended to by an experienced mechanic at value suzuki, vasanthnagar. They finally solved the hard gear shifts by changing clutch bearing, and now i have smoth gear shifts.
But i have rode by brand new gs150r for initial 8 months with hard gears and it might have led to other internal damages, which only time will tell.
Also, i have had strange noise from my engine. But suzuki refused to acknowledge this engine noise too. They said it is normal noise and will disappear after i ride a few thousand kilometers. They even said it is engine balancer noise and all gs150r will have this noise. I have rode 6200 km now, but the noise has only increased. I am not sure whether its engine balancer noise or tappet noise or both together. So, here is a video link. Other gs150r users please tell me if its normal engine sound or not?
The bike was just idling when the video was recorded. No acclerator used. No choke used.
The service center says it is normal noise, but anyway they will check the valve clearance at next service.
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