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  • Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
    i am happy to see so many discussions going on well i am up for a oil change using Motul 20w40 currently to be true it has done 2k kms and i am not very pleased with it any suggestions regarding Which engine oil to use?
    Motul has the normal 3000 20w 40 as well as motul 3000 4t plus 20w 40

    The difference is the first one is just jaso ma standard oil which is unfit for our bike, where as the plus variant oil is jaso ma2 standard oil which is perfect fit for gs
    You can find ma2 writen in the label.

    Elf 4 moto, valvolin premium, gulf are few of the ma2 standard oils.

    Any Oil brand With ma2 standard will go good with gs
    Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity

    Currently Using Gusto |Enfield Bullet 500 | Ecosport Titanium+ Diesel

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    • i am talking about motul 3000t plus MA2 well intially the oil is super good but after 1200kms the gears have become a bit hard i have been using it for past 3 times and felt that gulf was way better anyway will be using motul once more before completely shifting.But one thing Gulf reduces the noise better as far as i can think off.

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      • harsh sound

        I own a 10 month old gs,nearing 6th service.i am facing a peculiar problem which i will be raising in my coming service,but if you guyz have the same please let me know solution.

        The bike makes harsh sound(rocks in grinder) when we accelerate our bike after the following scenarios
        when we retard our bike like near a speed break or sudden breaking( i am not confusing the sound with mixer sound when we descend a sloppy road or the struggling sound when riding on high gears at low speeds,hope you got the point.other wise the sound is good at the start and high speeds.

        Apart from that i also face the millage issue getting only max 45/litre.

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        • Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
          i am talking about motul 3000t plus MA2 well intially the oil is super good but after 1200kms the gears have become a bit hard i have been using it for past 3 times and felt that gulf was way better anyway will be using motul once more before completely shifting.But one thing Gulf reduces the noise better as far as i can think off.
          Motul is good for me may be its not fit for delhi climate condition.

          Yeah gulf makes our gs perform well silenty.

          Believe a good synthetic oil will work out for you
          Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity

          Currently Using Gusto |Enfield Bullet 500 | Ecosport Titanium+ Diesel

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          • Originally posted by nagthemissile View Post
            I own a 10 month old gs,nearing 6th service.i am facing a peculiar problem which i will be raising in my coming service,but if you guyz have the same please let me know solution.

            The bike makes harsh sound(rocks in grinder) when we accelerate our bike after the following scenarios
            when we retard our bike like near a speed break or sudden breaking( i am not confusing the sound with mixer sound when we descend a sloppy road or the struggling sound when riding on high gears at low speeds,hope you got the point.other wise the sound is good at the start and high speeds.

            Apart from that i also face the millage issue getting only max 45/litre.
            Well i know what you talking about as far as i know it is not the chain noise but something else but i don't hear it when i put in my lid only when i ride without the lid i can hear that grinding noise during deacceleration .

            on the other hand I have started to ignore the noise from engine a bit since i have come to a conclusion that Tappet adjustment still can't negate the tick tick noise which everyone is talking about most of the times since it is something to do with the whole engine itself and no one in Suzuki svc has been good to solve it.



            Edit: @MSN Bhai i have done like 11000 kms now thinking of switching to Synth and suggestions ? Motul Synth costing about Rs700 here but really not very pleased with motul thinking of getting something more compatible with my GS.
            Last edited by adi231189; 12-12-2010, 07:15 PM.

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            • guys happen to see a new yamaha in net How is IT

              Super Yamaha
              ABDUL KHADAR
              currently using GS150R
              PULSAR 150 DTSI |CBZ|BAJAJ RTZ 125|RX135G|RX100|KAWASAKI RTZ 100|TVS CHAMP

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              • Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
                on the other hand I have started to ignore the noise from engine a bit since i have come to a conclusion that Tappet adjustment still can't negate the tick tick noise which everyone is talking about most of the times since it is something to do with the whole engine itself and no one in Suzuki svc has been good to solve it.
                Hi adi, I met a other state(chennai TN-03) GS150 here in my place a brand new one ,He told he buy it in chennai and working here in ONGC ,when i ask abt mileage and how much odo he clocked ...He told its 50-52kmpl and odo is 1500km including his drive from chennai(300 km)....
                Later when i met him i asked him to show his bike sound .....Its looking like the same sound u and me telling ....When i ask abt it he told its tappet loose sound, It can be adjusted ...When i told abt mine same sound and its not solved by SC people ...He told GO to GOOD LOCAL MECH who have feeler gauge in Hand and do ur tappet adjustment......He also suggest me a Good local mech in my Town itself ,But I never trust Local mech....

                I don't under stand how tappet is loose in a brand new bike .he told he is very sane rider and has thunderbird 350cc too , But he feels this GS is super for long Travel compare to Thunderbird
                I hope if u get mileage good then forget abt this "TiC TIC sound" or wait In this forum some Genius to find solution
                ABDUL KHADAR
                currently using GS150R
                PULSAR 150 DTSI |CBZ|BAJAJ RTZ 125|RX135G|RX100|KAWASAKI RTZ 100|TVS CHAMP

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                • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                  Dear Abdul Khadar,

                  I am surprised that an experienced rider like you is complaining about the mileage. What were the problems with the bore & piston and how did you get rid of it?

                  The mileage depend so many factors. Anyway, if your bike is properly maintained, check the brakes and ensure they are free. Do not unnecessarily press the clutch liver. Avoid sudden acceleration and retardation and try to keep a constant speed. If you are not a dare devil driver, try to keep the engine rpm at or below 4500.

                  If the carburettor is re-tuned by anyone, get it properly tuned again from the service centre, using CO monitor, smoke analyser etc.

                  Shift to the higher gear at the earliest possible so as to reach the 6th gear in 30 kmh and try to ride in higher gears as far you can. That means, shift to the higher gear at the earliest possible and shift to the lower gear at the latest possible.

                  After all this, check the mileage with 300 – 400 ml of petrol in a jar, connecting directly to the carburettor. Repeat the test in all the modes and find out the best result and insist to that mode.

                  (If the ‘GOD’ mode or any other mode gives you better result than the other modes, write a thesis about it and try to get a Ph. D and don’t hesitate to or don’t be shy to inform Suzuki about this great innovation).

                  If yet the mileage is low, do a compression test using the compression tester in the sc. If the compression is low, get the valves, valve seats, piston etc. changed. The mechanic will tell you what to do exactly. Follow his advice. That will solve the mileage problem.

                  When you adjust the chain next time, ask the mechanic to tighten the nuts manually. That will solve the problem of frequent loosening of the chain. Here, not the chain but the torque applied to tighten the nuts is the culprit. And when you hear the chain hitting sound next time, check the springs of both the centre and side stands. If any of it has become weak, change it too.

                  To get rid of the gear shifting hardness, wait to shift the gear till the engine rpm lowers. It is not practicable in all situations. So, when the engine is hot (not warm) adjust the engine rpm to 1500 – 1600. As a result, the cold start may be a bit difficult. In that case, give a slight acceleration when you start the bike.

                  There is no false reserve in our bike. I have described it earlier. Ask the sc manager to show you a damaged fuel tank and ask him to explain how the main and reserve functions. I hope he will do it. As our bike’s fuel tank is bigger, the difference between the height of both main and reserve fuel tubes is little. This leads to the refilling of the main fuel tube again when the fuel in the tank forms a wave when the bike stops. If you tilt the bike to a side, the level of the fuel in that side increases and this too causes the filling of the main tube again. This petrol thus filled in the main tube will be sufficient for another few kms. Ordinarily this do not happen in smaller fuel tanks as, naturally, the difference of the height of these tubes are more and we will have to tilt the bike more to fill the main fuel tube again.

                  That is, in fact, the real consumption of the reserve petrol starts when the main supply is stopped first time. For the subsequent running, reserve petrol is used.

                  Can you distinguish tappet sound from other sounds from the engine? Do you really hear a sharp noise like some nuts or bolts are loose and freely moving in the engine? Why are you not getting the tappet clearance correctly adjusted? Who put this idea about tappets in your mind?

                  Please give an answer about these questions and about the bore & piston.

                  Anyway, tappet noise has nothing to do with the mileage. It is an annoyance; so, get it adjusted and periodically replace the oil and oil filter. I am doubtful about the sound as the bike is new and properly maintained.

                  With regards.


                  Thanks for ur long post, yes i am experienced one , My previous bike pulsar 2003 DTSI which i keep for 6 years ,serve me with 51-55kmpl in city and 65kmpl in highway consistently ,with the same kind of driving in GS 150, I am a sane rider who won't exceed 5000RPM , and ride mostly 5th gear in city with some times 6th gear......

                  If u don't see my previous post in the middle of the thread
                  i have to repeat it .....

                  Mine is small town ,And dealer is sub dealer only ,but compare to rest of the other BAJAJ(2 sub dealer),TVS,HONDA,HERO HONDA and even LOCAL MECH..They have poor facility, Even to adjust VALVE or TAPPET NOISE they get feeler gauge frm main dealer PONDYcherry after 8 months only after i bought april 2009...

                  From the beginning i got less mileage , or multiple personality disorder symptoms, my SC mech told me to wait till 5000km for adjusting mileage , then he did and got the same result and i complained in suzuki web site , then got phone from a Gentle man called "MR Vinod NATARAJAN" who is south service head SUZUKI....He informed the PONDYCHERRY main dealer , AND he came this year feb 2010 with The so called CO analyser and done tunning and done 200ml can test which i did 4 times and finally get 11.2km for 200ml

                  Then i use to get mileage around 51 -54kmpl consistent till 8000km
                  Then i found my engine is rough and there is tic tic sound from engine and mileage dropped to 47-49kmpl ,then i call the SC pondy he send the feeler gauge very late ,MY mech did tappet adjust and on next day it started again and i found a different bad noise from engine which will come after riding 2km ...That time i found many 2009 model have same problem and it was rectified by changing B&P replacement in these GS thread by other users refer "RAJESH"
                  Again report to MR vinod south head and he instructed the PONDY SC to check and replace the B&P if needed, since there is no facility to change B&P here in my town....I send the bike to PONDYCHERRY 140km from here thru my MECH as i can't take due tom other work...
                  They change BORE and piston along with CAM CHAIN(which is reason for tic tic sound)....return the bike after one week ,i visited one time to look my bike, whether the job is done or not...but when i went its not finished ,THE SC manager told me he need to set the valve properly by giving to lathe
                  After i got it i found the sound is not there,Ride again 1000km run-in and changed oil in 700km
                  But while with such problems my bike returns 47-49kmpl, after all done ,when i check mileage its dropped to 40kmpl....
                  Now after running in 1000 km(1300km cuurent odo after B&P CHANGE) i get the tappet noise ,which the mech itself agree with it.....
                  Now called again The MAIN SC he promised a service camp by end of december and look after the bike
                  I met fellow GS in karaikal , they report mostly 55kmpl to 58kmpl here under city,Only few told they getting 50 or less 50kmpl.....
                  Forget to mention there is still 10 brand new GS 2009 model available in my SUB SC as ready for sale

                  while doing 200ml test me only rode and get 11.2kmpl and again pondy SC rode and get same result 11.1kmpl
                  If u want more stories abt B&P with other, refer previous page in middle i don't
                  remember the pages
                  I know they changed my carburator setting while changing my b&P,thats why i am getting poor mileage
                  Sorry guys, this long story needed for Vishnu as he need full story behind it..
                  ALSO I maintain my bike with good oil (GULF pride PLUS,MOBIL SUPER 4T) with oil filter change etc
                  Even the other GSpian mathew have same mileage problem and even carburator is replaced , and now he report me he is getting TATA NANO mileage And out of this thread

                  AHHHHH......Let me Finish Br and attach my already posted pic again for you
                  Last edited by akfara; 12-12-2010, 09:49 PM.
                  ABDUL KHADAR
                  currently using GS150R
                  PULSAR 150 DTSI |CBZ|BAJAJ RTZ 125|RX135G|RX100|KAWASAKI RTZ 100|TVS CHAMP

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                  • Originally posted by abhi_gsr View Post
                    I am literally fed up and bugged up of the Mileage Issues on my GSR. Since a long long time, i have been facing Inconsistent Mileage and False Reserve Issues. I used to ignore it initially but now it's getting into my Head. And seems like there is no end to it.
                    I have recorded the Data of my last few fillings and calculated Mileage R-R Method.
                    As stated earlier, i have attached a Text Document containing my GSR's Mileage Data.
                    I tried copying the Data here, but it was coming in a very messed up format. So, uploaded the File.

                    I had tried tuning the Carb. myself about a Month ago but the Results were the same.
                    I just got my Bike Serviced. I told about this Issue to the Service Supervisor while giving my Bike for Servicing. He assured me that he will take care of it and tune it properly. But that does not seem to be the Case. After Servicing, now the Cold RPM is around 800 - 900. In the mornings while starting , i have to Rev the Bike so that it does not stall. When the Engine is Warm, it fluctuates between 1000 - 1100 RPM max. When the Engine is running and Bike is on Standstill, the Exhaust Note also does not seem uniform. Is the tuning messed up ? At least when I had tuned my Bike, the Cold RPM was 1000 and Warm RPM was 1500.

                    One surprising thing to note is that after Servicing, my first Mileage check returned a Mileage of 69. I was like "WOW". But the next Fill gave a Mileage of 34.
                    I am starting to think now if my Carburetter is Faulty.
                    I am almost at my Wit's end now. Dunno when and how will i find a Solution to this.





                    Let the engine RPM set by the mechanic to be so. The fluctuation of RPM is normal and common with every bike, including mine. It means that the tachometer is correctly responding to the variations in the engine revolutions.

                    The difference in the exhaust sound is due to the fluctuation of engine RPM. That also is normal.

                    Be sure that the brakes are not applied involuntarily when you drive. Some have the habit of pressing the brake levers while accelerating.

                    Small quantity of fuel in the tank will cause more evaporation. So make sure that the tank is always almost full.

                    Further, check for any leak in the fuel supply pipe from tank to the carburettor.

                    Once again check the brakes, tyre inflation etc and do a mileage test with a small quantity of petrol in a jar and post the result here. I am sure that you will get a neat mileage. Then have a cup of hot coffee or tea, start the bike and go.

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                    • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                      My answers are in bold italics.
                      Brother,you really know to make satire of people,
                      Nitro kit on the GSR !!!!!
                      Yeah I know blokes who fit nitro kits on their Enticers,but never hear from them later on
                      I saw infront of me a 225cc Karizma engine blowing off its piston and broke conrod,when the rider buttoned the nitro near red-line during a drag race.
                      He then ordered an entirely new engine and got it ported .....his Karizma now does 150kmph on speedo.
                      So please advise wisely.
                      GSR is a good stock bike and there maybe stupid ways of screwing it,which I advise not.
                      Hell's Angel
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                      • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                        I saw infront of me a 225cc Karizma engine blowing off its piston and broke conrod,when the rider buttoned the nitro near red-line during a drag race.
                        He then ordered an entirely new engine and got it ported .....his Karizma now does 150kmph on speedo.

                        Dear Mach50,

                        Glad to know that your friend is O. K and Karizma is capable to do 150 kmph even though it is after porting.
                        Anyway, how far is your residence away from Nandigram?

                        Regards,Vishnu.

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                        • @akfara for 2 years i am not giving to local mech even though i have a trusted person since warranty issues will be there. I think tappet i am not sure it is due to tappet since it comes from the rear not from the engine i thought it was from chain but it is something else.

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                          • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                            Small quantity of fuel in the tank will cause more evaporation. So make sure that the tank is always almost full.

                            Further, check for any leak in the fuel supply pipe from tank to the carburettor.
                            I did tank fill till brim level last 2 times ,filled again to know my mileage and found 40 and 43.5 after running 235km once and next 125km......
                            If there is leak in fuel pipe to carburettor , we can smell the fuel,is that culprit to mileage owes ????
                            Any experts can answer a foolish question by me is "implementing DTSI in bajaj to our GSR by suzuki will improve our mileage and performance" I know TVS is using it in TVS FLAME again ...
                            And why suzuki is Trying to sell the 2009 models in some small towns,instead of getting back from showroom and converting to bug free 2010 models ????
                            ABDUL KHADAR
                            currently using GS150R
                            PULSAR 150 DTSI |CBZ|BAJAJ RTZ 125|RX135G|RX100|KAWASAKI RTZ 100|TVS CHAMP

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                            • Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
                              @akfara for 2 years i am not giving to local mech even though i have a trusted person since warranty issues will be there. I think tappet i am not sure it is due to tappet since it comes from the rear not from the engine i thought it was from chain but it is something else.
                              Adi in ur case it may be right ,it may be ur swing arm gives sound ,some one posted the pictures of it already ,In my case i get a clink clink sound after a puncture attended by local tyre walla...then when i went again to some other tyre walla for fixing a puncture occurred again ,He found that sounds due to "DRUM NUT" lost its thread due to excess pressure by previous person who attended the puncture.... He did some adjustment and sound gone , but told me to replace the DRUM NUT
                              ABDUL KHADAR
                              currently using GS150R
                              PULSAR 150 DTSI |CBZ|BAJAJ RTZ 125|RX135G|RX100|KAWASAKI RTZ 100|TVS CHAMP

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                              • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                                My answers are in bold italics.
                                Thanks for the cool tricks buddy, but it would be more beneficial if you keep it a bit feasible as well.....
                                Also, seems like you skipped reading the lines between () where I said that I drove it gently and didn't go beyond 5k on rev meter, while checking the mileage of this bike, even barely used brakes as I was on highway, still the mileage was like that......
                                And yes, I like to extract most out of everything, but I also make sure that it doesn't go beyond the limits....
                                WARNING: Objects seen in the mirror are disappearing rapidly.
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