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**pratheekkunder** · 12-16-2010, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by Maestro View Post

ohhhhhhhh its that way.........
thanks........
@prateek how is the 220 steed guy here.......and do go to the bhandardara ride......you may clock unbelievable top speeds......

my brother needed help with his query, so jumped in..

Me going for sure, but would be riding a pillion..but i can give him TANG anytime..

**2strokerama** · 12-16-2010, 03:40 AM

I tried to point that such a layer may form by using synthetics. Who would buy a dog that bites its own master

?

@anup: No man, that doesnt necessarily mean that synthetic oil is bad......its only bad during break in period it seems.

A friend of mine recently switched to synth for his p180. he says bike is very smooth after that ( for pulsar that means something

) and that mileage has gone up too. Its been over a month and he's faced no probs till now.

**MSN1** · 12-16-2010, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by Anupdas View Post

Do you know anything about synthetics forming a layer on cylinder?

Anup da,

some synthetic oils have addictive or chemicals which form a thin layer of coat [oil manufacturers call it as "protective coat"

] on the engine parts to reduce friction thus it helps extending the life of engine by avoiding the wear and tear.

in my friends FZ engine ceasing case it was due to the excessive heat generated due to driving more on rpm redline,
may be that excessive heat made the oil to add extra thick coat which turns in to a rubber like finishing causing friction and played the spoil sport.

in one line say no to synthetic till your bike cross 5000 kms

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even i thought the modes are just light indication till i use the power mode

once i used the power mode seen the other face of our little monster with the faster pickup / sheer power with in....

**Anupdas** · 12-16-2010, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by 2strokerama View Post

that doesnt necessarily mean that synthetic oil is bad......its only bad during break in period it seems........

Originally posted by MSN1 View Post

some synthetic oils have addictive or chemicals which form a thin layer of coat [oil manufacturers call it as "protective coat"

] on the engine parts to reduce friction thus it helps extending the life of engine by avoiding the wear and tear.........

The synthetic oil is too slippery and arrest the wearing of piston rings to form an ideal ring seal. This results in glazing of new engine

.

The same layer will be formed after break-in, but since the rings are properly worn it pose minimum danger(if synthetics are fake, OMG). But I'm concerned with the petrol price hiking day by day, there will be adulteration in petrol and may cause problem in future.

As for the vibrations even with mineral oil, engine is running stress free and smooth in lower rpm. I think if changed at 2000 km interval this may keep engine healthy than a synthetic with more drain interval(money is also a factor

). Thanks for your replies.......

**MSN1** · 12-16-2010, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Anupdas View Post

The synthetic oil is too slippery and arrest the wearing of piston rings to form an ideal ring seal. This results in glazing of new engine

.

The same layer will be formed after break-in, but since the rings are properly worn it pose minimum danger(if synthetics are fake, OMG). But I'm concerned with the petrol price hiking day by day, there will be adulteration in petrol and may cause problem in future.

As for the vibrations even with mineral oil, engine is running stress free and smooth in lower rpm. I think if changed at 2000 km interval this may keep engine healthy than a synthetic with more drain interval(money is also a factor

). Thanks for your replies.......

Thats right for commuter (non racing) needs just oil change at every 2000 kms will do good.

In view of petrol price hike requesting suzuki to release GS150R Diesel variant (GS150R VDI)

**Anupdas** · 12-16-2010, 11:01 AM

Its the sheer size and weight of diesel engine (disturbing the power to weight ratio)that prevent the manufacturers from launching a diesel variant. The high compression ratio and distribution of torque makes the design complex and expensive

.

Necessity is the mother of invention, lets see whats there for us in future

.

**Maestro** · 12-16-2010, 11:51 AM

can some one tell me the price of the headlamp assy.....i met with an small accident and now its damaged.....does any one know how much will it cost me....and whether it can be availed under insurance....
also there has been rusting on the saree guard and the left footpeg....so are they covered under warranty????

**animeher** · 12-16-2010, 12:00 PM

Headlight assembly can be availed under insurance, no problem. But it wont be worth the trouble of going through the formalities, unless you have other damages going up to 3-4k. Better to use it pasted with cellotape, or just change it by your cost. Otherwise, you will lose the No claim bonus on the insurance premium, which comes up to about 200rs per year.

**Maestro** · 12-16-2010, 12:15 PM

how much will it cost me.....any idea on that?

**bond_007** · 12-16-2010, 12:18 PM

Yesterday i took my bike to service center.

I had some problems:
1. sound from front wheel ---- got rectified (guy cleaned the brakes with sandpaper).

2. sound of vibration from the above headlight part of bike(dont know what its called) ---- sound started again

3. False reserve --- when checked by the mechanic, came to know that my fuel T(as he said) was defective. it showed, off when was in reserve, on when off and so on. he himself was amazed to see that. --- no stock so he promised to change it later.

4. Scratch on tank -- some days ago i was in a situation that i had to keep some goods on my tank. It resulted in scratches on tank ----- He applied some polish on it and it shined like new. but the scratches are still there.

5. Mileage. My assumption approx 40-42 (the blinking of the fuel meter bar) --- he suggested to have 100 ml test (dont know it is accurate or not as the pipe will contain some fuel or so). I told him, get that fuel t and i will check R-R.
6. Rusting of the fuel tank mouth ---- The manager (as supervisor rejected my complaint i went to mgr) said that it is normal and showed me his bike which contained rust too.

Fellow gspians, please suggest,
1. 100ml test is accurate or r-r method?
2. What to do about rusting? He is not doing anything and telling me that it is normal???

Please help.

**MSN1** · 12-16-2010, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by bond_007 View Post

Fellow gspians, please suggest,
1. 100ml test is accurate or r-r method?
100ml test is accurate as r to r method may fail due to following reasons
1. evaporation due to temperature
2. tampered petrol bunk meter
100 ml is the best method i felt

2. What to do about rusting? He is not doing anything and telling me that it is normal???

if you are sure its rust then take photo and report it to suzuki as the dealer is not acting responsibly
don't let them take rest till they fix your issue

Please help.

my answers are in bold

**bond_007** · 12-16-2010, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by MSN1 View Post

if you are sure its rust then take photo and report it to suzuki as the dealer is not acting responsibly
don't let them take rest till they fix your issue

Thanks Bro. But tell me one thing, how to show them photo of rust??? All i got when i searched the suzuki site was this link:-

Suzuki Motorcycle Corporate Office

**MSN1** · 12-16-2010, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by bond_007 View Post

Thanks Bro. But tell me one thing, how to show them photo of rust??? All i got when i searched the suzuki site was this link:-

Suzuki Motorcycle Corporate Office

as said by anup earlier just upload the photos to either picasa or flickr sort of sites and just add the url link to your post in the suzuki site

**akfara** · 12-16-2010, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by MSN1 View Post

In view of petrol price hike requesting suzuki to release GS150R Diesel variant (GS150R VDI)

or LPG variant

**Maestro** · 12-16-2010, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by akfara View Post

or LPG variant

honda has already prepared for the lpg variant of passion....

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